Dental Implant in Bangkok

[Yellowtail]

Anyone had an implant done in Bangkok recently? If so, how as the service and what was the price?

 

I generally use Bangkok Hospital Dental, but would consider going somewhere else if significantly cheaper.

 

Thanks! 

[OneMoreFarang]

Just general advice:

 

I have one planned and I guess we will do it sometime beginning of next year.

I visit this dentist since years in Bangkok and have good experience. It is just a small clinic. They have specialist i.e. for different tasks who come only once a week or so.

 

My main dentist told me there are huge differences with the technology which dentist use for implants and with the experience of the dentist. According to her there are now many dentists who use a relative cheap method and they only get a few hours training to do that. It works, kind of, but is bad quality.

 

Sorry in the moment I don't know much more than this. My point is be very careful. There seem to be huge differences between implants and implants. If you can afford a well known hospital then probably it's best to stay with them.

[Bruno123]

I have some experience with this. I did a fair bit of research in Bangkok before making my decision. Research included checking the qualifications and experience of the Implantologists. I actually called to speak with them personally. I don't mess around ;)

 

So apart from the relatively high cost in Bangkok; especially if you want to avoid the roving Implantologist nonsense, only one person managed to convince me; a practitioner at Phyathai hospital in Sri Racha; Dr. Paweenwan Suwangatte. This after even sitting in the chair and being examined at the Bangkok Dental Hospital. I think they quoted me 65k at the time.

I think the roving Implantologist thing in Bangkok is the main thing that put me off them.

The small clinics that I looked at did not even have a 3D X-Ray device. So you had to go to a hospital to get an X-Ray to have it ready for the same roving Implantologists. No thank you.

I chose a hospital with a dedicated Implantologist. Up to date, I have had at least eleven years of experience with the same Implantologist; so I can wholeheartedly recommend her.

Has recently moved to private practice; replete with a 3D X-Ray device :) Now in Bang Saen.

I recommend you make an appointment. You will find the experience quite different from the Bangkok style nickel and diming.

Expect prices from 45k. Though I would recommend paying a little more for a solid ceramic crown.

 

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[Bohemianfish]

Implants can be delicate. They should make sure you have enough bone to put in an implant. They may have to build it up before an implant can take hold. And it can be tricky with the angle they have to put it in. I got nine done in the states by a dental surgeon. My regular dentist doesn't do that type of work. 

[tonray]

7 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

but would consider going somewhere else if significantly cheaper.

Focus on the best dentist and the best implant technology you can find. Cheaper is not something you should be considering when getting titanium alloys srewed into your jawbone. If you want someone very skilled (did his Implant fellowship work in the US). Dr. Preeda Pungpapon at BIDC in Bangkok. Not the cheapest...(you can reduce costs if you choose second line manufacturer) but I got 3 done with Straumann Roxolid SLA implants and Zirconia crowns and am extremely happy I did. You can see their website for pricing which is close to actual. My cousin's husband is a dentist in USA and I queried him about brands and he does some implant work and he told me the Straumann was the only thing he would recommend to anyone as the success rate is higher and the tools and quality of the product is superior to others he has used. But you can make your own choices of course.

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I have a dentist in Chiang Mai who also has an office in Bangkok. In fact, his original office is in Bangkok He's a professor who teaches implant techniques in Bangkok. He uses the highest quality implants (Stromann from Switzerland) and actually has a lab onsite to make crowns. The name of his practice here in Chiang Mai is GrandDent.  Anyway, I'm sure you can get this Bangkok info from them. Phone: 053 274 420

Also, his English is excellent.

Can't remember his name. It's been several years since I used his services. Another great thing about him was that I was told by another dentist that I needed an implant. He looked at the tooth in question and said all I needed was a crown. Saved me about 40000 baht.

[BKKBike09]

If you live in the Sukhumvit area, Soi 19 Dental Clinic / Dr Dusit (just down from Terminal 21). Excellent English. Not had any implants but a couple of crowns over the years. I don't know if he's much cheaper than the bigger places but I like the fact that his practice isn't industrial sized and I also have never had the feeling that he's tried to sell me work that isn't needed.

[ColeBOzbourne]

I appreciate the information here. I'm going to need extensive dental work and predict it will take some time to complete. Weeks or months I don't know. I have a small concern about starting the procedure and then having my dentist possibly closed down if another wave of Covid comes through part way through the program. I'm not predicting another wave of Covid, but wonder if it's better to wait until C-19 is well behind us. Any thoughts?  

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, ColeBOzbourne said:

I appreciate the information here. I'm going to need extensive dental work and predict it will take some time to complete. Weeks or months I don't know. I have a small concern about starting the procedure and then having my dentist possibly closed down if another wave of Covid comes through part way through the program. I'm not predicting another wave of Covid, but wonder if it's better to wait until C-19 is well behind us. Any thoughts?  

Talk to your dentist!

 

I am sure it depends on what has to be done and how much it depends on each other.

I.e. I will get a transplant on one side and maybe another on the other side. They are totally independent from each other and don't have to be done together. You and your doctor should know best about your situation.

 

And about Covid: I don't want to make things worse than they are. But I don't think anybody can predict anything. I.e. maybe in a month or two all is back to normal, and maybe for some time, and maybe even forever.

But maybe some other nasty variant appears weeks or months from now and then? We can't predict what will happen and when it will happen.

[tonray]

3 hours ago, ColeBOzbourne said:

I appreciate the information here. I'm going to need extensive dental work and predict it will take some time to complete. Weeks or months I don't know. I have a small concern about starting the procedure and then having my dentist possibly closed down if another wave of Covid comes through part way through the program. I'm not predicting another wave of Covid, but wonder if it's better to wait until C-19 is well behind us. Any thoughts?  

The implant procedure is straightforward. You get an assessment and treatment plan, then you get implants inserted. Then there is typically a 3 to 4 month period before you can get crowns placed, so waiting just extends this even further.

[Bruno123]

16 hours ago, Bohemianfish said:

Implants can be delicate. They should make sure you have enough bone to put in an implant. They may have to build it up before an implant can take hold. And it can be tricky with the angle they have to put it in. I got nine done in the states by a dental surgeon. My regular dentist doesn't do that type of work. 

Indeed that was one of the things that I looked at when doing my research. They had to have the relevant qualifications in maxillofacial surgery. 

In fact I was operated by my Implantologist in an operating theatre, together with the hospital's top anesthesiologist.

So we aren't talking about a general dentist.

 

 

[Bruno123]

8 hours ago, ColeBOzbourne said:

I appreciate the information here. I'm going to need extensive dental work and predict it will take some time to complete. Weeks or months I don't know. I have a small concern about starting the procedure and then having my dentist possibly closed down if another wave of Covid comes through part way through the program. I'm not predicting another wave of Covid, but wonder if it's better to wait until C-19 is well behind us. Any thoughts?  

Get it started; don't worry. The sooner it's begun, the sooner you can improve the quality of your life. Don't wait.

Plus if you go private; there will be some flexibility whether things are ordered officially closed or not. The reality is that no one will accept that again. 

[ColeBOzbourne]

19 hours ago, tonray said:

The implant procedure is straightforward. You get an assessment and treatment plan, then you get implants inserted. Then there is typically a 3 to 4 month period before you can get crowns placed, so waiting just extends this even further.

Thanks. It seems what might make it not so straightforward and drag out the process is if the bone needs to be built up. In my case that may be what is needed. I plan to visit several dentists and get a recommended plan from each one, then make a choice, then just bite the bullet, so to speak, and do it.

[Yellowtail]

On 12/24/2021 at 7:33 AM, placeholder said:

I have a dentist in Chiang Mai who also has an office in Bangkok. In fact, his original office is in Bangkok He's a professor who teaches implant techniques in Bangkok. He uses the highest quality implants (Stromann from Switzerland) and actually has a lab onsite to make crowns. The name of his practice here in Chiang Mai is GrandDent.  Anyway, I'm sure you can get this Bangkok info from them. Phone: 053 274 420

Also, his English is excellent.

Can't remember his name. It's been several years since I used his services. Another great thing about him was that I was told by another dentist that I needed an implant. He looked at the tooth in question and said all I needed was a crown. Saved me about 40000 baht.

Thanks, I called the number and the staff told me that they did not have a Bangkok office. 

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Just now, Yellowtail said:

Thanks, I called the number and the staff told me that they did not have a Bangkok office. 

I know that the implant doctor there travels between Bangkok and Chiang Mai. Maybe if you got his name you could track down where he practives in Bangkok.

[Yellowtail]

Thanks for all the responses. I called BIDC, they were a little cheaper than BHDC but not enough to make me change, and they do not offer gold crowns. 

 

I have had a few implants, on in the US about 25 years ago and two here in Bangkok 15 & 20 years ago and they have all been great, although I did have to have the crown replaced on the one from the US a few years ago. I'll likely end up just going with my current dentist, but I can't see him until the 8th. 

 

Thanks Again! 

 

 

[Yellowtail]

10 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I know that the implant doctor there travels between Bangkok and Chiang Mai. Maybe if you got his name you could track down where he practives in Bangkok.

Or if I could save a chunk I could holiday in Chiang Mai, nice up there this time of year. 

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10 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Or if I could save a chunk I could holiday in Chiang Mai, nice up there this time of year. 

I don't think that he's going to save you a significant chunk of money if he determines you need an implant. His price for that was better than the place I was going to, But I think the owner of that practice made a bad real estate investment and was looking to recoup his losses.

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14 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Or if I could save a chunk I could holiday in Chiang Mai, nice up there this time of year. 

I don't think that he's going to save you a significant chunk of money if he determines you need an implant. His price for that was better than the place I was going to, But I think the owner of that practice made a bad real estate investment and was looking to recoup his losses.

Here's a link to info about him. I guess he practices at the hospital:

http://www.granddentdental.com/implantology

[Hummin]

Any experience with Dentists who use N2O?

[Yellowtail]

6 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Any experience with Dentists who use N2O?

Yes, I had one in Miami but it took forever. He kept going in and out of the room and was laughing at everything. 

[Hummin]

17 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Yes, I had one in Miami but it took forever. He kept going in and out of the room and was laughing at everything. 

Ok, I understand, so better ask 

 

Anyone experience with Dentists in Thailand who give N2O to their patient's. Hope this helps

[Yellowtail]

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

Ok, I understand, so better ask 

 

Anyone experience with Dentists in Thailand who give N2O to their patient's. Hope this helps

I doubt very much they would give it to you. If you are able to find it I'm sure they would charge extra...

 

(just kidding) 

[Yellowtail]

[TheScience]

I contacted pretty much every central BKK dental center that does this including Mahidol University. The prices are ridiculous.

 

First, if you can go home and have this done check it out. My elderly mother said she was charged us1700 for an implant all in.

 

55k+++ excluding all sorts of of unknowns. Add no insurance. One 'clinic' wanted 100k.

 

Check out the Sri Ratcha dentist but that probably involve hotel stays.

 

Dentistry for foreigners has become a total ripoff. The services are expensive and troubles develop.

 

*I've had issues with half dozen big name clinics. Very disappointed.

[Paulaew]

Dental implants have to got to be one of the greatest inventions of the 20th century.

 

I had a proper oral surgeon who specialized in implants put a couple in for me. Expensive, but worth it.

 

But you also need a good dentist who can help maintain the implants. I recently had a crown start to wobble on an implant that was done about 8 years ago. That's a cause for concern, since there are several possible causes -- the crown might just be loose, or the abutment screw might be loose, or there might be an osseointegration failure of the implant. The last cause would be pretty dire, since it would require a new implant.

 

My dentist had to drill down through the crown to reach the screw channel for the abutment. Then he unscrewed the abutment and removed the crown/abutment assembly so he could examine the implant. Fortunately the implant was still sound. After cleaning the crown and abutment in alcohol, he reinserted the abutment and tightened the screw, and restored the hole he had drilled in the crown. Now the crown is solid as a rock. The procedure took about an hour.

 

My dentist mentioned that if the oral surgeon had left a maintenance hole in the crown, the procedure would have been quicker. That's something to ask your oral surgeon about before you have an implant done. Typically a maintenance hole would only be made in a molar.

 

Paul Laew

 

 

[tonray]

34 minutes ago, TheScience said:

*I've had issues with half dozen big name clinics. Very disappointed.

Perhaps the issues don't start the clinics but with your expectations for 'cheap' dentistry

[TheScience]

18 minutes ago, tonray said:

Perhaps the issues don't start the clinics but with your expectations for 'cheap' dentistry

What a laff.

 

I'd been a patient at Dental Clinic 49 for 15 years before I'd had enough.

 

In my post is stated prices were more expensive than US but with no insurance.

 

You're lost.

[Yellowtail]

 

 

3 hours ago, TheScience said:

I contacted pretty much every central BKK dental center that does this including Mahidol University. The prices are ridiculous.

 

First, if you can go home and have this done check it out. My elderly mother said she was charged us1700 for an implant all in.

 

55k+++ excluding all sorts of of unknowns. Add no insurance. One 'clinic' wanted 100k.

 

Check out the Sri Ratcha dentist but that probably involve hotel stays.

 

Dentistry for foreigners has become a total ripoff. The services are expensive and troubles develop.

 

*I've had issues with half dozen big name clinics. Very disappointed.

Implant and crown at BIDC is 28,000 all-in, that compares pretty favorably to $56,815 in the US. 

 

Virtually all elective surgeries not covered by insurance  are cheaper in the US than they are here, and as I understand it, much/most of the cost of an implant is the is the appliance itself, which the dentist has little control over. 

 

Correct me if I am wrong, but the cost of an implant seems to be the same regardless of the nationality. When I am at Bangkok Hospital Dental Center, there is the occasional foreigner, but by and large, their bread and butter clients are Thai. 

 

Finally, the service I receive for general dentistry at BHDC far exceeds any dental service I have received in the US, where the dentist has six chairs going....

 

 

 

 

[ColeBOzbourne]

I'm getting light-headed and they haven't even given me the nitrous oxide yet. I know BHDC and BIDC are different clinics. On Sukhumvit Soi 2 there's a fairly new place called BIDH (Bangkok Intl. Dental Hospital). Is this another one or maybe the same as BIDC? Any information on BIDH on Soi 2? Thanks.