webfact Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 By Paul Rujopakarn BANGKOK (NNT) - Thailand’s top virologist has warned that children could become superspreaders of COVID-19, especially for the Omicron coronavirus variant, which is more transmissible than previous strains. Dr Yong Poovorawan, head of the Center of Excellence in Clinical Virology at Chulalongkorn University’s Faculty of Medicine, expressed his concerns in an online post on Monday. He said that because infected children have mild or no symptoms, they can potentially become superspreaders by transmitting the virus to their parents. According to Dr Yong, there is a high chance of COVID clusters emerging from schools as a result of children’s interactions after taking online classes at home for an extended period. He said vaccines for children must be effective in order to keep young people from becoming infected and spreading the virus to others. He urged parents to boost their immunity by getting vaccinated if they have not been infected so their children can resume normal activities, especially at school. Discover Cigna’s range of health insurance solutions created for expats and local nationals living in Thailand - click to view -- © Copyright NNT 2022-01-11 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dinsdale Posted January 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2022 Once again right up with current affairs viz-a-viz SARS-CoV-2. This was and is still the case for Delta so this "Breaking News" from yet another Thai 'expert' is months out of date. As for schools they have always been hot beds for virul spread. Same as public transport. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbkk Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Still no delivery date on Pfizer vaccine stock. Will it be a 2nd Generation vaccine? From November 2021... "Thailand hopes this lot will include the new formulation Pfizer is developing for children." https://www.nationthailand.com/blogs/in-focus/40009167 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post poskat Posted January 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2022 after watching CNN and reading the Washington Post, Dr Yoong stated that.... 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post roquefort Posted January 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2022 3 hours ago, webfact said: He said vaccines for children must be effective in order to keep young people from becoming infected and spreading the virus to others. Doesn't he know that vaccines don't stop you becoming infected? This is an expert? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey11 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Quick, shut the schools, Yong has spoken, but keep all nonessential places open. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo2014 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 So can politicians... Ive seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 is 1 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Some officials try to close school's here in Finland but schools stay open! Even has most infected than ever, its much more harmful to kids stay home that go to study. Quarantine and testing rules for schools come under criticism in Finland https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/20763-quarantine-and-testing-rules-for-schools-come-under-criticism-in-finland.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RichardColeman Posted January 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2022 4 hours ago, webfact said: Thailand’s top virologist has warned that children could become superspreaders of COVID-19 Coming to a town near you soon 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey11 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 1 minute ago, RichardColeman said: Coming to a town near you soon Funny but we know what Thai authorities are like, they probably would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey11 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 27 minutes ago, 2 is 1 said: Some officials try to close school's here in Finland but schools stay open! Even has most infected than ever, its much more harmful to kids stay home that go to study. Quarantine and testing rules for schools come under criticism in Finland https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/20763-quarantine-and-testing-rules-for-schools-come-under-criticism-in-finland.html Same UK but political suicide if they done that on a whim. UK government has basically said it would be a last resort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 4 hours ago, webfact said: He said that because infected children have mild or no symptoms, they can potentially become superspreaders by transmitting the virus to their parents. This is hardly new information. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 4 hours ago, webfact said: Thailand’s top virologist has warned that children could become superspreaders of COVID-19, especially for the Omicron coronavirus variant, which is more transmissible than previous strains. Next door neighbours kids returned to school in mid December, Mon/Wed/Fri with online lessons Tues/Thurs... it's now closed again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huangnon Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Thailand's top Govt-mouthpiece-in-a-white-coat says... Meanwhile, one of the inventors of the m-RNA vaccines has warned parents to "think twice before you vaccinate your kids" Dr Robert Malone 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticFox Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Yong just ramping up the fear to extend to 'fear of children' which will end in more school closures. The Thai school system is poor at best, but the continual school closures and masking and decrees on movement and congregation will make this group of Gen-Alpha a truly 'lost generation.' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 19 minutes ago, ArcticFox said: Yong just ramping up the fear to extend to 'fear of children' which will end in more school closures. The Thai school system is poor at best, but the continual school closures and masking and decrees on movement and congregation will make this group of Gen-Alpha a truly 'lost generation.' You're assuming schools will open again at some time in the future. I'm not so sure anything will ever get back to normal, as we knew it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 There's no reason that schools won't open again as soon as most kids are vaccinated. The closures are sensible until that happens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPhibes Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 20 hours ago, RichardColeman said: Coming to a town near you soon You beat me to it! Had already downloaded the same pic just from the post title!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 (edited) 22 hours ago, roquefort said: On 1/11/2022 at 11:07 AM, webfact said: He said vaccines for children must be effective in order to keep young people from becoming infected and spreading the virus to others. Doesn't he know that vaccines don't stop you becoming infected? This is an expert? Don’t you know that vaccines are still effective at stopping spread of the Pre-Omicron variants. Additionally, vaccines are also effective a preventing a person from contracting Omicron, however, they are not as effective against Omicron than earlier variants, hence the higher number of breakthrough Omicron infections. This idea that the Vaccines are 100% ineffective against Omicron is incorrect. Additionally, vaccination minimises the risk of anyone (children included) in developing symptoms and thus, they carry a reduced viral load and while they may remain contagious, they do so to a lesser degree for a shorter period of time. Thus: While in many cases vaccines are not ‘preventing’ the transmission of omicron, they are still an effective tool. That said, given the R number of Omicron and the high population density of schools I still see Omicron spreading significantly - that is to say, where as pre-vaccine 50-80% of school children could contract and spread Omicron, post vaccination that could be less than 50%. Those figures are just pulled out of the air of course, but that is the difference and benefit I understand vaccinations offer a school community under current conditions and risk of Omicron and the still ever present Delta variants. The other facet is the vaccines effectiveness against the Delta variant and that means children are far less likely to take Delta home to their parents and grandparents who, if they are not vaccinated or have not been ‘boosted’ in the past 6 months are at risk. Edited January 12, 2022 by richard_smith237 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargeezr Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 This should worry not only the people in Thailand, but everywhere. Considering that omicron is not the only variant of COVID 19 that still exists, some people are still sick or getting sick from other variants. I am just watching some Canadian news, and in Quebec hospital cases have spiked and the ICU wards are getting full. The health workers are burned out and many are sick, but the people who are getting sick do not seem to care about this situation. I just hope that the hospitals in Thailand do not face this problem. Good Luck to all of you. Many children in Canada are also getting sick. more good news to come next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 On 1/11/2022 at 11:07 AM, webfact said: According to Dr Yong, there is a high chance of COVID clusters emerging from schools as a result of children’s interactions after taking online classes at home for an extended period. Yes, obviously. It has been that way since the beginning. Is anyone reading this and saying "Oh sh*t, kids can spread it?!!!"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 55 minutes ago, BritManToo said: You're assuming schools will open again at some time in the future. I'm not so sure anything will ever get back to normal, as we knew it. There's only another 6 weeks or so left in the school year for Thai schools. We have been back online since the New year break. If we don't go back next week, I suspect schools will be shut the rest of the semester - with reconsideration being given every 2 weeks. Then there is a long break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted January 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, ozimoron said: There's no reason that schools won't open again as soon as most kids are vaccinated. The closures are sensible until that happens. You keep saying the same thing. But the vaccinations don't stop anyone from catching or spreading it. So why the need to vaccinate children? They'll still spread it vaccinated or not. As they don't get serious symptoms, they don't need the vaccinations. There's no logic to your PoV. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAnotherHun Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 (edited) To close the schools run by government again will have not much impact to the "education" and skills of the kids. That's why I pay a fortune for my son's international school. Edited January 12, 2022 by JustAnotherHun 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 17 minutes ago, BritManToo said: 1 hour ago, ozimoron said: There's no reason that schools won't open again as soon as most kids are vaccinated. The closures are sensible until that happens. You keep saying the same thing. But the vaccinations don't stop anyone from catching or spreading it. So why the need to vaccinate children? They'll still spread it vaccinated or not. As they don't get serious symptoms, they don't need the vaccinations. There's no logic to your PoV. Your PoV seems to be that vaccinations are 100% ineffective against someone catching Covid-19 and spreading it so there is no point taking a vaccine - this is not true. The increased presence of ‘breakthrough’ infections of Omicron compared to Delta does not identify that vaccinations (and boosters) are ineffective. It does identify that vaccines are not as effective for Omicron as they are for previous variants. While it has been found that the vast majority of Children do not succumb to the symptoms of a Covid-19 infection, vaccinations will play a roll in ensuring reduced numbers of children in schools are carriers. I point out again, that while vaccines are not effective for everyone against Covid-19 (and Omicron) they are still effective for many. These same vaccines are still effective against earlier variants which children may otherwise carry home to parents and elderly who are either still unvaccinated or have not yet received boosters and have waning antibodies. Thus: While I do not agree with closing the schools. I do agree with taking continued practical measures to limit the spread of Covid-19 - in this case, vaccination of children. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 43 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: While it has been found that the vast majority of Children do not succumb to the symptoms of a Covid-19 infection, vaccinations will play a roll in ensuring reduced numbers of children in schools are carriers. I point out again, that while vaccines are not effective for everyone against Covid-19 (and Omicron) they are still effective for many. Complete BS. Nothing is stopping the spread. Calling it 'breakthrough' infections just sounds better than admitting the vaccines didn't work. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted January 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, BritManToo said: You keep saying the same thing. But the vaccinations don't stop anyone from catching or spreading it. So why the need to vaccinate children? They'll still spread it vaccinated or not. As they don't get serious symptoms, they don't need the vaccinations. There's no logic to your PoV. False. Vaccines are proven to reduce infection and transmission of the virus. Stop listening to talk back radio. The paediatric admission in hospitals is higher for omicron than delta. Some children have died from omicron. This post is an outright lie. Edited January 12, 2022 by ozimoron 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 (edited) https://www.news-medical.net/news/20211223/Pediatric-hospital-admissions-rise-with-omicron-SARS-CoV-2-variant.aspx https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/1/8/hospitalisations-skyrocket-in-children-too-young-for-covid-shots https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/1/8/hospitalisations-skyrocket-in-children-too-young-for-covid-shots Edited January 12, 2022 by ozimoron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JustAnotherHun Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 OK, then: Anthony Fauci said, Omicron will Quote will ultimately find just about everybody https://edition.cnn.com/2022/01/11/health/us-coronavirus-tuesday/index.html Everybody includes kids. Fauci, not known as an anti-vaxxer, seems not to have great believe in the protection of the vaccines against infection, does he? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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