Popular Post snoop1130 Posted January 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2022 Minor International Public Company Limited, a prominent private hospitality group in Thailand, has submitted an open letter addressed to Prime Minister Prayut Chan-O’Cha, urging the government to lift the current restrictive alcohol drinking hours set at 9 PM in tourist zones, reimplement the “Test&Go” tourism scheme, stop forcing tourists to hospitals if positive for Covid-19 but mild or asymptomatic, and get rid of Thailand pass and replace it with a simple pre-flight vaccine check and covid test. According to the letter, Company Chairman William Ellwood Heinecke stated that the government should consider a pragmatic approach to balance the way to keep the businesses and economy going while finding a way to live with the new Omicron mutant of the virus. Closing international borders also causes more harm than good, especially when the local transmission of the new Omicron variant was already widespread internally in Thailand and appeared to be mild for most people, according to Mr. Heinecke. The statement also mentioned the recommendation of the World Health Organization, stating that border closures are ineffective, and Thailand should follow other European and South American countries in terms of relaxing travel restrictions to the pre-pandemic entry rules to encourage tourism. The statement reads: “Moreover, the Thailand Pass pre-approval system has outlived its usefulness, having served as more of a hindrance to visitors than a public health safeguard, even mandatory insurance and pre-booking of hotels is a hindrance to tourism as proven by the rest of the world. This is not required today.” Full Story: https://thepattayanews.com/2022/01/13/minor-international-prominent-hospitality-group-urges-the-thai-government-to-drop-alcohol-restrictions-like-early-closing-times-and-bring-back-test-and-go-to-encourage-tourism/ -- © Copyright The Pattaya News 2022-01-13 - Aetna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 21 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HappyExpat57 Posted January 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2022 This hospitality group obviously has NO idea who they are talking to. This government believes Thailand is the true and only center of the universe, the government leaders fart rainbows, and if it wasn't their thought in the first place then it is nothing to be considered. 26 3 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dinsdale Posted January 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2022 How to live with Omicron. Open everything. Expect hospitalisations to increase. Excpect deaths/ICU/intubations not to increase buy any great factor. Expect people will have to take time off of work. Expect large numbers of infections in schools etc, etc but overall expect a lot less carnage than Delta. Sooner absolutly everyone in the world gets this the better. IMO. 44 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ezzra Posted January 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2022 20 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: Bill Heinecke Bill Heinecke is an astute business man and he talks like a business man who knows that the country is going down the gurgler if they will not open up very soon and learn to live with the Covid/Omicron, as i like everything he saying because in the end, sooner or later, the government will be forced to do just like he is proposing, so why wait?... 46 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HappyExpat57 Posted January 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, dinsdale said: <snip> Sooner absolutely everyone in the world gets this the better. IMO. I was recently exposed by two people who wound up in the hospital with Covid. I've been double Pfizer jabbed and hoped I would get it from either of them to be done with it. Alas, no such luck (or I was completely asymptomatic). 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ukrules Posted January 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) They're doing a good job of making sure Delta continues to circulate at the moment. The only way they get rid of that is by allowing Omicron to 'push it out' - and there's no way they're going to do that. China has the same problem, they will never admit defeat to a mere virus but in the end they will be defeated by it. The longer it takes, the more will die from previous circulating variants. Edited January 13, 2022 by ukrules 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThomasThBKK Posted January 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2022 36 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said: This hospitality group obviously has NO idea who they are talking to. This government believes Thailand is the true and only center of the universe, the government leaders fart rainbows, and if it wasn't their thought in the first place then it is nothing to be considered. He knows damn well, he was supporting them when they took over. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) 48 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said: I was recently exposed by two people who wound up in the hospital with Covid. I've been double Pfizer jabbed and hoped I would get it from either of them to be done with it. Alas, no such luck (or I was completely asymptomatic). Please don't <snip> my posts. Highlight if you like but quote my full post. Thanks. Edited January 13, 2022 by dinsdale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyman108 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 I remember some idiots in Chiangmai tourism association and warmup restaurant trying to encourage local tourist and offer 100,000 baht for those who got covid during their stay in Chiangmai......end up they delete all those facebook post and offering after thousands of people got it. Maybe this minor guy should offer free hotel stay for any tourist that come in to Thailand when they got the virus?? And of course their customers who dine and drink alcohol and end up with the virus should get some kind of compensation from them??? 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Albert Zweistein Posted January 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2022 8 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said: I was recently exposed by two people who wound up in the hospital with Covid. I've been double Pfizer jabbed and hoped I would get it from either of them to be done with it. Alas, no such luck (or I was completely asymptomatic). I think you need a shrink ! 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post daveAustin Posted January 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2022 All sounds good and logical. Unfortunately it won’t wash with him. They have their agenda, while a high infection tally—even if asymptomatic with few deaths—would just ‘look bad’. China same same but different. Main tenets: - Look good - control - self - screw the people 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tomyami Posted January 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2022 urging the government to lift the current restrictive alcohol drinking hours set at 9 PM in tourist zones, reimplement the “Test&Go” tourism scheme, stop forcing tourists to hospitals if positive for Covid-19 but mild or asymptomatic, and get rid of Thailand pass and replace it with a simple pre-flight vaccine check and covid test. 1 million tourist waiting for that to happen wont be enough taxis, plane seats, staff to serve or barstools. Food, drink, girls and even the soi dogs will be shocked, but 2023 party sure 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sirineou Posted January 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2022 The test and go program was not suspended to prevent the Omicron variant for coming to Thailand, everyone understands that it will come, It is suspended to slow it down until such time that we have a handle on it and the dangers it presents, and as such it is working. We seem to have a kneejerk reaction against everything the goverment in Thailand does, some times with proper justification, but in this instance any one of us would have done the same if we were in charge. It seems like Omicron is not a dangerous as it was originally thought to be, but I think that it is a little premature to make a definitive determination , as this hospital group seems to have. A few more weeks should give us the data pessary to make better assessment .IMO 4 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post meechai Posted January 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2022 12 hours ago, snoop1130 said: get rid of Thailand pass and replace it with a simple pre-flight vaccine check and covid test. AMEN ! ???? 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post inThailand Posted January 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2022 TIT! If it makes sense it won't be done, especially a common sense idea from a falang. 11 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post realfunster Posted January 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2022 29 minutes ago, sirineou said: The test and go program was not suspended to prevent the Omicron variant for coming to Thailand, everyone understands that it will come, It is suspended to slow it down until such time that we have a handle on it and the dangers it presents, and as such it is working. We seem to have a kneejerk reaction against everything the goverment in Thailand does, some times with proper justification, but in this instance any one of us would have done the same if we were in charge. It seems like Omicron is not a dangerous as it was originally thought to be, but I think that it is a little premature to make a definitive determination , as this hospital group seems to have. A few more weeks should give us the data pessary to make better assessment .IMO Agree with some of your points, although I do feel enough data is out there already from South Africa, UK & US that indicates it is clearly significantly milder, and the UK has just reduced self-isolation to 5 days, having apparently passed its Omicron peak around 6 weeks into the wave. Where some people struggle with their logic is thereby deducing we should simply forget about any restrictions on this basis. Due to the rate and sheer volume of spread it is still prudent to attempt to slow down the wave to some extent to protect health services. It is already in Thailand, it is spreading and I estimate that we will see a huge rise in cases through until the end of February. That’s not a bad thing as Omicron will push out Delta (as already seen in other countries) and significant community immunity will be achieved. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrunchWrapSupreme Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 I liked when they had Coronas at the Chidlom Taco Bell when they first opened. That was the bomb. Getting tipsy at lunch time. But then they went away even before Covid. What gives man. Maybe that snooty private school around the corner didn't like it. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Deli Posted January 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2022 25 minutes ago, inThailand said: TIT! If it makes sense it won't be done, especially a common sense idea from a falang. He has Thai Nationality 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Would you buy a used car from this Minor? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted January 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2022 very sensible article most folks on here have been saying it for weeks if not months 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 5 hours ago, Albert Zweistein said: I think you need a shrink ! He should have employed the exchange of bodily fluids route. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted January 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2022 1 hour ago, sirineou said: The test and go program was not suspended to prevent the Omicron variant for coming to Thailand, everyone understands that it will come, It is suspended to slow it down until such time that we have a handle on it and the dangers it presents that information is widely available from countries that actually look at it and are weeks ahead of Thailand with omicron 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bangkok Barry Posted January 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2022 14 hours ago, snoop1130 said: get rid of Thailand pass and replace it with a simple pre-flight vaccine check and covid test. Thailand never, ever does simple. Ever. It isn't in their nature. They have a remarkable knack for complicating even the simplest task. They appear to have no clarity of thought about how to accomplish something in the most direct way. Immigration is the prime example for us, but it permeates the entire society. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post charmonman Posted January 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2022 Omicron is already in Thailand. Making it difficult and expensive for people to travel to Thailand will do nothing to change that, nor will it in any way seriously worsen the current situation where the vast majority of new cases are from local transmission, not from incoming travellers. This is particularly true when they have already tested negative before boarding their flight. Yes, a person who tests negative can still carry the virus but they are clearly less likely to do so when they have recently tested negative, more than you can say for most people currently going about their business in Thailand who have not been tested. The letter makes perfect logical and reasonable arguments for opening Thailand up, which almost guarantees the government will pay no attention to it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 14 hours ago, snoop1130 said: According to the letter, Company Chairman William Ellwood Heinecke stated that the government should consider a pragmatic approach to balance the way to keep the businesses and economy going while finding a way to live with the new Omicron mutant of the virus. And him rich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfill Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Well, I can't see this man ever getting a job at the Ministry of Health.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gottfrid Posted January 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2022 Normally, we use the expression "falling for deaf ears". However, in this case Mr Heinecke, you are engaging in a discussion with people who have no ears. If they had, they would not know how to use them. Their eyes, are also very sensitive to things they know are right but is not included in their agenda, as they did not invent the idea. Here they will wait for another year, and then come up with the bright idea, that it´s high time to take away the restrictions. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastlight Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Deli said: He has Thai Nationality He'll always be a falang 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgenon Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 14 hours ago, ukrules said: They're doing a good job of making sure Delta continues to circulate at the moment. The only way they get rid of that is by allowing Omicron to 'push it out' - and there's no way they're going to do that. China has the same problem, they will never admit defeat to a mere virus but in the end they will be defeated by it. The longer it takes, the more will die from previous circulating variants. China has to Olympics to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgenon Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 15 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said: I was recently exposed by two people who wound up in the hospital with Covid. I've been double Pfizer jabbed and hoped I would get it from either of them to be done with it. Alas, no such luck (or I was completely asymptomatic). Curious if you tested positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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