Murder of Brit in Kanchanaburi: Injured friend sitting up in hospital gets Facebook well wishers

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Shaun Dagnan, in his mid fifties, has been pictured sitting up in bed next to his partner Pranee.

 

The deceased man, from Weston-Super-Mare, was believed to have been living in the kingdom for about five years.

 

Shaun - known as Daggy to his friends - was involved in the incident in the early hours of Saturday morning when his friend Marcus Evans, 49, was allegedly murdered by a sickle wielding Thai. 

 

Mr Dagnan, originally from Nuneaton, is believed to have been living in Thailand for three years and is consequently not a tourist.

 

According to earlier reports the pair had been drinking since the previous evening outside rented rooms.

Both were attacked around 4 am. 

 

A 22 year old man, now in custody and charged with murder and attempted murder, allegedly assaulted the British pair. He is undergoing mental health assessments according to police in Kanchanaburi in Thailand's west. 

 

More than 200 well wishers sent their best to the injured British man now recovering in a hospital in Kanchanaburi.

 

Pranee said on Facebook: "Thank you everyone for your messages of support - he's feeling better now".

 

Mr Dagnan said on Facebook remembering his murdered buddy:

"Thank you all for your your kind words and prayers I love you all but my heart goes out to my friend Marcus and his family; rest in peace big man, shine bright my friend".

 

ASEAN NOW have contacted both Mr Dagnan and his wife for further comment. 

 

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[Gold Star]

I hope he brought along his earphones.

[ChaiyaTH]

Mental health checks, not to treat the murderer but only to hope and get away with a lower sentencing. I'd be following up the rest of my life if this happened to one of my friends here, the guy would never get a day of rest if getting away with easy jail sentence.

 

Yet we all know that killers here walk free within just a few years while someone who used drugs can be in for life. However would a farang been the killer; 20-30 years behind bars.

 

This country start to disgust me more and more. If I only could bring my child abroad, i'd been gone.

Edited January 24, 2022 by ChaiyaTH

[Meat Pie 47]

1 minute ago, ChaiyaTH said:

Mental health checks, not to treat the murderer but only to hope and get away with a lower sentencing. I'd be following up the rest of my life if this happened to one of my friends here, the guy would never get a day of rest if getting away with easy jail sentence.

 

Yet we all know that killers here walk free within just a few years while someone who used drugs can be in for life. However would a farang been the killer; 20-30 years behind bars.

 

This country start to disgust me more and more.

That is the reason I moved away

[ChaiyaTH]

20 minutes ago, Meat Pie 47 said:

That is the reason I moved away

I would not move away forever (holidays sometime could be fine), it is not like black and white and many things to love from Thailand, all though more and more seems to be based in the history of how Thailand once was and not how it is today, let alone in the future if being realistic (it is not looking bright).

But yeah, I have a kid here and the mother certainly won't allow me to take him with me. Don't know anymore too.

Edited January 24, 2022 by ChaiyaTH

[ChaiyaTH]

The strangest things in Thailand btw: 
A killer high on drugs gets jailed for just a few years but someone who used drugs and not hurt a fly, gets 2 decades.

[LiamB80]

I can already see it in the news clippings, the Thai murderer is being coddled, one police officer had his arm around him during questioning as if to comfort him. The poor Thai with mental health problems couldn’t control himself and was pushed to the edge by the foreigner being disrespectful to all things Thai is the narrative they’re pushing. It’s almost like they’re treating the murderer as a hero.

[stigar]

1 hour ago, ChaiyaTH said:

Mental health checks, not to treat the murderer but only to hope and get away with a lower sentencing. I'd be following up the rest of my life if this happened to one of my friends here, the guy would never get a day of rest if getting away with easy jail sentence.

 

Yet we all know that killers here walk free within just a few years while someone who used drugs can be in for life. However would a farang been the killer; 20-30 years behind bars.

 

This country start to disgust me more and more. If I only could bring my child abroad, i'd been gone.

I moved back to my country with my exwife and our 2 kids about 12 year ago.Best decition ever.My kids live a good life here,good education,peaceful life..my exwife remarried here 3 year ago.She have a good salary here, about 50.000 pound a year.And alot of other benefits compared to thailand.

My kids dont want to go back for even just a holiday.My son age 15 studys finished at primary school in june.My daugher age 17 study at high school.Both kids working some hours every week and earning money here in afternoons and weekends.My new lady have her own business in thailand so she dont want to move here.And she dont want to leave her kids and family.

 

[gungadin1]

31 minutes ago, stigar said:

I moved back to my country with my exwife and our 2 kids about 12 year ago.Best decition ever.My kids live a good life here,good education,peaceful life..my exwife remarried here 3 year ago.She have a good salary here, about 50.000 pound a year.And alot of other benefits compared to thailand.

My kids dont want to go back for even just a holiday.My son age 15 studys finished at primary school in june.My daugher age 17 study at high school.Both kids working some hours every week and earning money here in afternoons and weekends.My new lady have her own business in thailand so she dont want to move here.And she dont want to leave her kids and family.

 

My wife moved away and also never wants to return here,luckily for me as I'm here

[ChaiyaTH]

37 minutes ago, stigar said:

My kids dont want to go back for even just a holiday.

 

I don't doubt that at all, many half Thai kids that I used to first meet when they were still underage, now only talk about plans moving abroad as they have far more potential than when they would stay here. Aside the fact they don't want to work with the corrupt/evil people if do wanting a better deal like within bureaucratic systems etc.

That all aside, I could imagine that eventually they get tired of the western thing too, and when having enough money, TH could be interesting again. However with current developments, not really for a bright future. I'd usually recommend them Prague etc instead then.

 

Thailand is still good fun for me, doing business remote and having it easy with the money but for my son I do not see it as amusing at all, aside of insane high costs of Inter schools and a horrible ex.

 

We getting off topic with this post tho, hope the mods don't mind, it's interesting stuff.

Edited January 24, 2022 by ChaiyaTH

[tonysilly]

2 hours ago, ChaiyaTH said:

Mental health checks, not to treat the murderer but only to hope and get away with a lower sentencing. I'd be following up the rest of my life if this happened to one of my friends here, the guy would never get a day of rest if getting away with easy jail sentence.

 

Yet we all know that killers here walk free within just a few years while someone who used drugs can be in for life. However would a farang been the killer; 20-30 years behind bars.

 

This country start to disgust me more and more. If I only could bring my child abroad, i'd been gone.

Same here Brotha!! Trying. Going to get worst for Expats. 

[ChaiyaTH]

3 minutes ago, tonysilly said:

Same here Brotha!! Trying. Going to get worst for Expats. 

Sadly I hear this more and more in real life too, but yeah, it is also called being a realist I guess. Maybe it is easier to say 'I will stay' when you know you are at a certain age already and moving elsewhere is kind of pointless + knowing you don't need to deal with the nastier future coming.

I'm only 30 and my son 3, been here 10 years, but that is a long way until being old.

Edited January 24, 2022 by ChaiyaTH

[scubascuba3]

1 hour ago, ChaiyaTH said:

The strangest things in Thailand btw: 
A killer high on drugs gets jailed for just a few years but someone who used drugs and not hurt a fly, gets 2 decades.

so just drug users get 2 decades?  not drug pushers?

[ChaiyaTH]

4 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

so just drug users get 2 decades?  not drug pushers?

Sure, if the stash is too big to be considered personal usage or when it is not that of a big amount but divided in multiple bags and you also happen to have a weigh scale in the kitchen. It happens.

OR just a innocent user but poor, who also sells a bit to their friends. Regardless, 2-3 decades is insane while getting away with rape, murder and the like for just a few years.

 

We all know the real big guys get out relatively fast for the huge amounts they have too, thanks to the huge amounts of money they hold.

Edited January 24, 2022 by ChaiyaTH

[scubascuba3]

4 minutes ago, ChaiyaTH said:

Sure, if the stash is too big to be considered personal usage or when it is not that of a big amount but divided in multiple bags and you also happen to have a weigh scale in the kitchen. It happens.

OR just a innocent user but poor, who also sells a bit to their friends. Regardless, 2-3 decades is insane while getting away with rape, murder and the like for just a few years.

 

We all know the real big guys get out relatively fast for the huge amounts they have too, thanks to the huge amounts of money they hold.

ok so it's sellers\pushers fair enough, they've ruined enough lives, sickening when they target girls to get them hooked

[ChaiyaTH]

2 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

ok so it's sellers\pushers fair enough, they've ruined enough lives, sickening when they target girls to get them hooked

OK so because pimps exist every bar owner with a girl is evil too. And all the alcohol shops should be jailed too then. Get real bro.

Edited January 24, 2022 by ChaiyaTH

[CrunchWrapSupreme]

11 minutes ago, ChaiyaTH said:

I'm only 30 and my son 3, been here 10 years, but that is a long way until being old.

Ah. I've been here about the same and am 45. My Thai wife and I want to go back to the States in a couple more years. Still waiting for things to settle down over there.

 

We still have about 20 years to work, me in teaching, and her with hospitality experience that'd go a long way, and is in dire need there. 500-800 baht an hour there, vs. 500 baht a day here if she's lucky. Also retirement and other benefits we wouldn't get here. The longer we stay is wasted money. True, we'd be going back to a higher cost of living, tho this can be mitigated by not living near the coasts.

 

This is on topic, it's obviously time to rethink one's long term plans here with foreigners being murdered, which by the looks of things may be condoned. Do let us know how this affects that incoming queue of QUALITY TOURISTS, Amazing Thailand.

[sungod]

6 minutes ago, CrunchWrapSupreme said:

Ah. I've been here about the same and am 45. My Thai wife and I want to go back to the States in a couple more years. Still waiting for things to settle down over there.

 

We still have about 20 years to work, me in teaching, and her with hospitality experience that'd go a long way, and is in dire need there. 500-800 baht an hour there, vs. 500 baht a day here if she's lucky. Also retirement and other benefits we wouldn't get here. The longer we stay is wasted money. True, we'd be going back to a higher cost of living, tho this can be mitigated by not living near the coasts.

 

This is on topic, it's obviously time to rethink one's long term plans here with foreigners being murdered, which by the looks of things may be condoned. Do let us know how this affects that incoming queue of QUALITY TOURISTS, Amazing Thailand.

I'd rather take my chances in Thailand, weekly high school shootings in the states aren't my thing.

[ChaiyaTH]

10 minutes ago, CrunchWrapSupreme said:

This is on topic, it's obviously time to rethink one's long term plans here with foreigners being murdered, which by the looks of things may be condoned. Do let us know how this affects that incoming queue of QUALITY TOURISTS, Amazing Thailand.

There is many reasons but you are certainly right about that, hundreds, thousands, have been murdered, even while prior having been doing good business here without any drama or problems, to then never see justice. That is something scary too, even when one so far never had problems.

 

To then consider the smile is gone, money is way down + will be down more, does not make it safer.

Edited January 24, 2022 by ChaiyaTH

[Scottie12]

It was a dreadful thing to happen to anyone but playing loud music after 3 in the morning is not the way to enamour yourself to Thais (or anyone for that matter).  

[Excel]

Just now, Scottie12 said:

It was a dreadful thing to happen to anyone but playing loud music after 3 in the morning is not the way to enamour yourself to Thais (or anyone for that matter).  

Or Thais to visitors either for that matter. Irresponsibility and disregard to others  is a trait of Thais also so in a way it was Karma. 

[mvdf]

Mental impairment as a defense to justify diminished criminal liability is just as much a quackery as lobotomy being an accepted surgical intervention decades ago. It's an insult to the life and dignity of the dead victim. Escaping accountability by claiming voices inside one's head were the culprits behind the act is a cheap excuse. If you take or end someone's life, you forfeit your liberty or your right to enjoy waking up to a new day with your peers.   

[Gottfrid]

What a bunch of bull it is in this thread. See it clearly! If a person had been doing thee same in England, they would also make him undergo tests regarding mental health. Most probably that would result in a different sentence and treatment for his problem. Why all the need to complain over the Thai system and how can Thailand become so bad, when they are just doing the same?

That knowledge and education as well as fuse and behavior is not same in different countries, we already know. That is something we have to take into consideration before relocating. Not saying it´s right, but no one can come here and think it will work like they are used too. We have to accept the people here, and adjust to the ways people are used to live and do things.

[hotchilli]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Mr Dagnan said on Facebook remembering his murdered buddy:

"Thank you all for your your kind words and prayers I love you all but my heart goes out to my friend Marcus and his family; rest in peace big man, shine bright my friend".

You were lucky, your mate not so much.... maybe next time you won't pee off the neigbours.

 

[fredscats]

Thailand is as safe as most other countries,cept traffic.

  Those guys attacked,not the most striking of ex pats living in dumps like that,like to know the ins and outs of all this,just a load of low life living

[ChaiyaTH]

1 minute ago, NicholasTH said:

Basically what im trying to say he should know better and remember this isn't his country  same like its not my country or yours but we know how to behave properly .. 

Seems you have been there, it does not matter which country you are in, murder is murder. This nonsense of ''it is not my country'' is so tiring. To speak of behavior, Thais should kill each other much more then.

Edited January 25, 2022 by ChaiyaTH

[NicholasTH]

4 minutes ago, ChaiyaTH said:

Seems you have been there, it does not matter which country you are in, murder is murder. This nonsense of ''it is not my country'' is so tiring. To speak of behavior, Thais should kill each other much more then.

i can take personal attacks but at least i have common sense and especially at *******  three o'clock in the morning

Edited January 25, 2022 by NicholasTH

[ChaiyaTH]

3 minutes ago, NicholasTH said:

i can take personal attacks but at least i have common sense and especially at *******  three o'clock in the morning

Maybe you should tell that to the hundreds of thousands of Thais, who still party and make noise / disturbance at night, if not considering the covid period due to the lack of places being open and aftermaths outside of those places. 

But hey this was a farang, and it was not his country, so it is his own mistake for being murdered after drinking like many Thais that night. The poor Thai guy should be set free in 3 years.

Edited January 25, 2022 by ChaiyaTH

[Chongalulu]

C2,D,E rating ? 

[Expat68]

4 hours ago, ChaiyaTH said:

Mental health checks, not to treat the murderer but only to hope and get away with a lower sentencing. I'd be following up the rest of my life if this happened to one of my friends here, the guy would never get a day of rest if getting away with easy jail sentence.

 

Yet we all know that killers here walk free within just a few years while someone who used drugs can be in for life. However would a farang been the killer; 20-30 years behind bars.

 

This country start to disgust me more and more. If I only could bring my child abroad, i'd been gone.

Thailand has its faults, like every other country in the world including yours I am sure, for me living in Thailand has more + than - the day that changes I would reconsider but for now there is only one winner