Assault on Kiev: Russian helicopters swoop above Ukraine's capital

[Yellowtail]

8 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Disregarding the ridiculousness of your claim are you telling us Churchill called Hirohito and told him the Pacific Fleet of the US navy was mainly in the Pacific Fleet home base??

Wow, must have blown ole' Hiro's mind!

And it's a good thing they were all in the harbor, or a lot more lives and equipment would have been lost. 

 

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

9 dead and at least 50 injured so far according to reports. Ukraine says International instructors there but not known if any are victims..BBC & AFP

At least 35 dead now, 157 injured.  BBC

 

When Russia bombed the base near Lviv last night, it had to assume Americans were likely to be killed or injured. A coordinator of foreign volunteers in Ukraine told me the base was a hub for 1000s of them, coming from all over to help Ukraine. I met some from US, UK, Australia.

 

This is where American and other NATO instructors do the most training of Ukrainians. I was just there yesterday. It’s also right near the Polish border. Serious escalation on Russia’s part.

 

https://twitter.com/shustry/status/1502940866369015808?t=_slxuyMHxkK1gmfPUirCwQ&s=19

 

[ozimoron]

"In recent days, we have heard absurd claims about chemical and biological weapons laboratories," Stoltenberg was quoted by Welt am Sonntag as saying, adding that the Kremlin was inventing false pretexts to justify what could not be justified.

"Now that these false claims have been made, we must remain vigilant because it is possible that Russia itself could plan chemical weapons operations under this fabrication of lies.

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/nato-chief-says-russia-may-use-chemical-weapons-german-paper-2022-03-13/

[ozimoron]

11 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

This is where American and other NATO instructors do the most training of Ukrainians. I was just there yesterday. It’s also right near the Polish border. Serious escalation on Russia’s part.

Foreign military instructors worked at the Yavoriv military facility near the Polish border that was hit by a Russian air strike

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-defence-minister-says-foreign-military-instructors-worked-attacked-2022-03-13/

[Chris.B]

15 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

This is where American and other NATO instructors do the most training of Ukrainians. I was just there yesterday. It’s also right near the Polish border. Serious escalation on Russia’s part.

 

I didn't realise you are actually in Ukraine. I thought you was just a forum member like the rest of us. ????

 

[Bkk Brian]

13 minutes ago, Chris.B said:

I didn't realise you are actually in Ukraine. I thought you was just a forum member like the rest of us. ????

 

Thats a quote from the Times reporter

[Kwasaki]

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

What do you base this on? 

My inside information comrade.

[Kwasaki]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The only people blaming NATO and the EU are Putin and the useful idiots parroting his propaganda.

 

As for ‘not hard to see the future’, don’t kid yourself, you have no idea where this is all heading.

Where is it heading then,  I will say Russia is going to flatten Kyiv until the Ukrainian President either steps down or is blown up. 

[Mr Meeseeks]

2 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

America came into the war when Churchill rung up the Emperor in Japan to tell him where the US fleet was. 

????

[KhunLA]

10 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Where is it heading then,  I will say Russia is going to flatten Kyiv until the Ukrainian President either steps down or is blown up. 

Yea, time to throw in the towel.  NATO obviously doesn't care and not coming to help. 

End it now and save civilians and infrastructure while you can.  

[Mr Meeseeks]

57 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

At least 35 dead now, 157 injured.  BBC

 

When Russia bombed the base near Lviv last night, it had to assume Americans were likely to be killed or injured. A coordinator of foreign volunteers in Ukraine told me the base was a hub for 1000s of them, coming from all over to help Ukraine. I met some from US, UK, Australia.

 

This is where American and other NATO instructors do the most training of Ukrainians. I was just there yesterday. It’s also right near the Polish border. Serious escalation on Russia’s part.

 

https://twitter.com/shustry/status/1502940866369015808?t=_slxuyMHxkK1gmfPUirCwQ&s=19

 

They are mercenaries mate, meaning no fighting under a flag thus no escalation and Putin had given them fair warning previously. 

 

They know the risks.

 

1 minute ago, KhunLA said:

Yea, time to throw in the towel.  NATO obviously doesn't care and not coming to help. 

End it now and save civilians and infrastructure while you can.  

Advice for whom exactly?

 

[Phoenix Rising]

I see the Russian trolls and apologists are creeping into this thread...

[Chomper Higgot]

32 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Where is it heading then,  I will say Russia is going to flatten Kyiv until the Ukrainian President either steps down or is blown up. 

I’m not sure making more predictions addresses my observation of fact that you don’t know the future.

[Chomper Higgot]

During the WW2 Nazi bombing of British cities the British government sent teams of psychologists into bombed cities to asses the impact of the bombing on the affected populations.

 

What they discovered was, far from destroying public moral, the bombing of cities actually strengthened resolve and increased civil unity amongst the affected populations.

 

Putin is not going to break the resolve of the Ukrainian people.

 

 

Edited March 13, 2022 by Chomper Higgot

[Bkk Brian]

32 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

They are mercenaries mate, meaning no fighting under a flag thus no escalation and Putin had given them fair warning previously. 

 

They know the risks.

Just about everyone in Ukraine knows the risks, be that soldiers, volunteers or civilians, does not make it any less tragic or as reported by the Times journalist, "Serious escalation on Russia’s part"

[rudi49jr]

28 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

I see the Russian trolls and apologists are creeping into this thread...

The troll factories in Russia must be working overtime. What a sad and despicable way to make a living, lying and spreading misinformation for ‘mother Russia’.

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

The troll factories in Russia must be working overtime. What a sad and despicable way to make a living, lying and spreading misinformation for ‘mother Russia’.

https://www.propublica.org/article/infamous-russian-troll-farm-appears-to-be-source-of-anti-ukraine-propaganda

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

And it's a good thing they were all in the harbor, or a lot more lives and equipment would have been lost. 

 

How on earth did you come up with that gem?

[Bkk Brian]

Journalists bringing back the news for the world now also in the cross hairs as expected.

 

Photo in Tweet: "A 51-year-old New York Times correspondent Brent Renaud was shot dead in Irpen today. Another journalist was injured. Now they are trying to take the victim out of the combat zone."

https://twitter.com/KyivPost/status/1502989878019117058

 

The other journalist with him referred to above:

Video of him in hospital talking: "Two American journalist shot by Russian at Irpin bridge. One is under surgery at the main hospital in Kyiv and the other was shot at the neck."

https://twitter.com/annalisacamilli/status/1502978846500573185

 

[sammieuk1]

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

Yea, time to throw in the towel.  NATO obviously doesn't care and not coming to help. 

End it now and save civilians and infrastructure while you can.  

Time to throw in the grenade more like capitulation more likely from Russia first ????

[jollyhangmon]

 

Ukraine-Russia war: Where does Southeast Asia stand? | DW News

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PewFXqdcyhU

 

Indonesia:     https://youtu.be/PewFXqdcyhU?t=30

SingSing:     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PewFXqdcyhU&t=254s

Russian bloke in Bali:     https://youtu.be/PewFXqdcyhU?t=506

China:     https://youtu.be/PewFXqdcyhU?t=616

[Thailand:     #NV aka. SFA]

 

 

 

[JetsetBkk]

2 hours ago, jollyhangmon said:

 

Ukraine-Russia war: Where does Southeast Asia stand? | DW News

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PewFXqdcyhU

Ukraine On Fire 2016 Oliver Stone

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHH10jIRJmQ

 

 

[Bucyf]

5 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Yea, time to throw in the towel.  NATO obviously doesn't care and not coming to help. 

End it now and save civilians and infrastructure while you can.  

Do you mean Ukraine should give up? It'll never happens. This country had been suffering from Russia from middle ages and it continues now. Ukrainians had better die than capitulate.

[rudi49jr]

Russia faces brain drain as thousands flee abroad. According to one estimate by a Russian economist, as many as 200,000 Russians have left their country since the start of the war. And that is probably a conservative estimate, in his opinion. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60697763

 

How one little dictator with delusions of grandeur, a bruised ego and a massive inferiority complex managed to destroy the future of millions in just a few weeks.

Edited March 13, 2022 by rudi49jr

[RJRS1301]

9 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m not sure making more predictions addresses my observation of fact that you don’t know the future.

He is possible reading the Faberge Egg, as the crystal ball was cracked by the incoming missile

[RJRS1301]

Russians have a secret escape hatch to Europe—Serbia

https://fortune.com/2022/03/11/russia-secret-escape-hatch-to-europe-air-serbia/

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

6 hours ago, JetsetBkk said:

Ukraine On Fire 2016 Oliver Stone

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHH10jIRJmQ

 

 

Oliver Stone ????

 

Oliver Stone Asked Vladimir Putin to Be His Daughter’s Godfather

Director Oliver Stone asked Russian president Vladimir Putin to be his daughter's godfather in a recent interview, the transcript of which has been published on the Kremlin's website.

 

10 Most <deleted> Things We Learned From Oliver Stone

What’s the Russian equivalent of Kool-Aid? Whatever it is, it’s definitely red – and Oliver Stone has eagerly drunk it down. Except for a few moments, Stone seems serenely unconcerned with anything beyond flattering his subject – and engaging in some supremely one-sided exchanges about history and policy along the way.

 

Oliver Stone on Vladimir Putin: ‘The Russian people have never been better off’

 

Of course, then he tries to back peddle ????

 

Oliver Stone Criticizes “Mr. Putin’s Aggression In Ukraine” After Previously Saying There Was “No Proof” Russia Intended To Invade

[Bkk Brian]

EXCLUSIVE: We met and interviewed US and UK foreign fighters in Yavoriv who gave @BuzzFeedNews the below video of the Russian missile attack on a NATO military training center today that killed 35 people & injured 134 more. Read my story, with @Kiehart

 

“I Thought I Was Going To Die”: US and UK Fighters In Ukraine Described The “Chaos” Of A Russian Missile Attack

The foreign fighters in Ukraine gave BuzzFeed News exclusive video of the missile attack on a NATO military training center that officials say killed 35 people and injured 134 more.

 

“All legionnaires are safe. No killed, no injured!” Col. Anton Mironovich, director of public affairs at the National Army Academy in Lviv and a point person for foreign fighters, told BuzzFeed News.

 

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/christopherm51/russia-missile-attack-yavoriv-ukraine-american-fighters

Edited March 14, 2022 by metisdead
Edited as per fair use policy.

[Chomper Higgot]

45 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Oliver Stone ????

 

Oliver Stone Asked Vladimir Putin to Be His Daughter’s Godfather

Director Oliver Stone asked Russian president Vladimir Putin to be his daughter's godfather in a recent interview, the transcript of which has been published on the Kremlin's website.

 

10 Most <deleted> Things We Learned From Oliver Stone

What’s the Russian equivalent of Kool-Aid? Whatever it is, it’s definitely red – and Oliver Stone has eagerly drunk it down. Except for a few moments, Stone seems serenely unconcerned with anything beyond flattering his subject – and engaging in some supremely one-sided exchanges about history and policy along the way.

 

Oliver Stone on Vladimir Putin: ‘The Russian people have never been better off’

 

Of course, then he tries to back peddle ????

 

Oliver Stone Criticizes “Mr. Putin’s Aggression In Ukraine” After Previously Saying There Was “No Proof” Russia Intended To Invade

Nevermind Oliver Stone, he was not a US President doing Putin’s bidding, praising Putin at every turn while at the same time trying to extort Zalenskyy with the threat of withholding the military aid Ukraine needed to defend itself against Russia.

 

 

[grin]

4 hours ago, rudi49jr said:

Russia faces brain drain as thousands flee abroad. According to one estimate by a Russian economist, as many as 200,000 Russians have left their country since the start of the war. And that is probably a conservative estimate, in his opinion. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60697763

 

How one little dictator with delusions of grandeur, a bruised ego and a massive inferiority complex managed to destroy the future of millions in just a few weeks.

I know quite a few people from Russia and Ukraine, mostly scientists and technologists. Not a single Russian friend has condoned the war. Most of the people I know that were still in Russia have already left. Many friends that are not in Russia are busy assisting their families getting out of Russia. None of my friends from Ukraine have left.

 

What is interesting is the take on news and propaganda by my friends and acquaintances from both countries. None of them believe anything official coming out of Russia. However, friends from both countries think that what is coming out of Ukraine is much more believable. They understand that a lot of it is probably propaganda but believe that Ukraine is doing a much better job on this. I've seen a few official Ukraine websites and they look pretty professional.