Avoid trap of losing money to women

[BritManToo]

9 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

IMO you would need to be able to give her multiple orgasms every time. Quid pro quo.

30 quid per pro

Is about my limit.

[Lacessit]

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

30 quid per pro

Is about my limit.

That's 1300 baht, are you getting more generous in your old age?

[Bruno123]

1 hour ago, BangkokReady said:

And this persisted after she had you safely locked down in a committed relationship?

I don't know about the committed relationship part; but I did not give her any money, other than once; 2000 baht. She knew better than to ask me. So when she did, I knew it was a last resort.

No different than if any friend was in need. I don't give women money to be with me. Friends have each other's backs.

[TheScience]

On 4/13/2022 at 6:37 PM, Sparktrader said:

Whats the best way to avoid this?

Rent by the hour obviously.

 

Baring that...

 

Never legally marry. Good luck her sticking around when you're 79.

 

Buy condo if that's your thing before you marry.

 

Develop a deep relationship over a minimum of two years before you do marry.

 

Live together minimum of 18 months. Does she ask for or steal money? Little dramas and games?

 

Woman no more than 15 years your junior. When the gap is generational there's no anchor to the relationship.

 

She has interests: travel, history, etc 

 

You both share interests that anchor the relationship.

 

She enjoys something sporty.

 

She graduated high school, few years of university.

 

Her parents are married and are a unit.

 

She might help her family but they all work and have ambitions.

 

She doesn't have dreams or designs built on your money.

 

She has a salaried job.

 

You met via an aqaintence or in person not online and not in a bar.

 

In general, she has a sunny disposition.

 

You do not find her scheming or calculating.

 

She's clean, organized and can get up early as needs arise.

 

She has a bank account.

 

Bar girl patter, vocabulary, slang totally devoid from her speech.

 

Devoid of large tattoos. Maybe a religious tattoo or two

 

Her English is not great. In fact, kinda shi++y.

 

She might love issarn food but can compromise with you mist of the time on regular Thai food.

 

Has never had a western boyfriend or especially husband.

 

Doesn't wear clonky, issarn wood high heels.

 

Doesn't wear sexy, revealing clothes, heavy make-up.

 

Gives a bad massage.

 

Doesn't F on the first date

 

Cheap wedding, fake sin sot ok.

 

She has Thai SSO insurance or b30 card.

 

You are happy together.

 

You don't feel like an ATM and she doesn't ask for money.

 

You can spend days and weeks in each other's company and not climbing the walls.

 

You are each other's best friend.

Edited April 17, 2022 by TheScience

[chalawaan]

Jump the fence, and head to boys town.

At least there the boys look like boys, so you won't even lose money to someone who looks like a woman.

[TheScience]

1 hour ago, Sparktrader said:

So a hot 51kg woman is no good?

Hot. Maybe.

 

51 kg. Not so much. 555 but really, depends on height obviously.

 

My wife is 42kg. GGained only 2 kg in 12 years.

Edited April 17, 2022 by TheScience

[chalawaan]

16 hours ago, Sticky Rice Balls said:

I work in food service---found a dude in the walk in with a chix breast one day

I hope he at least warmed it up. And added a little cooking oil...

Look, it was hard being a Legionnaire.

Edited April 17, 2022 by chalawaan

[Sparktrader]

31 minutes ago, TheScience said:

Rent by the hour obviously.

 

Baring that...

 

Never legally marry. Good luck her sticking around when you're 79.

 

Buy condo if that's your thing before you marry.

 

Develop a deep relationship over a minimum of two years before you do marry.

 

Live together minimum of 18 months. Does she ask for or steal money? Little dramas and games?

 

Woman no more than 15 years your junior. When the gap is generational there's no anchor to the relationship.

 

She has interests: travel, history, etc 

 

You both share interests that anchor the relationship.

 

She enjoys something sporty.

 

She graduated high school, few years of university.

 

Her parents are married and are a unit.

 

She might help her family but they all work and have ambitions.

 

She doesn't have dreams or designs built on your money.

 

She has a salaried job.

 

You met via an aqaintence or in person not online and not in a bar.

 

In general, she has a sunny disposition.

 

You do not find her scheming or calculating.

 

She's clean, organized and can get up early as needs arise.

 

She has a bank account.

 

Bar girl patter, vocabulary, slang totally devoid from her speech.

 

Devoid of large tattoos. Maybe a religious tattoo or two

 

Her English is not great. In fact, kinda shi++y.

 

She might love issarn food but can compromise with you mist of the time on regular Thai food.

 

Has never had a western boyfriend or especially husband.

 

Doesn't wear clonky, issarn wood high heels.

 

Doesn't wear sexy, revealing clothes, heavy make-up.

 

Gives a bad massage.

 

Doesn't F on the first date

 

Cheap wedding, fake sin sot ok.

 

She has Thai SSO insurance or b30 card.

 

You are happy together.

 

You don't feel like an ATM and she doesn't ask for money.

 

You can spend days and weeks in each other's company and not climbing the walls.

 

You are each other's best friend.

Too many things to remember need to a secretary to keep track

[Sparktrader]

27 minutes ago, TheScience said:

Hot. Maybe.

 

51 kg. Not so much. 555 but really, depends on height obviously.

 

My wife is 42kg. GGained only 2 kg in 12 years.

4 foot high women look odd up against a 6 foot guy

 

 

[BritManToo]

2 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

Too many things to remember need to a secretary to keep track

Sometimes I read these lists and think, that's the exact opposite of what I want in a woman.

[Sparktrader]

36 minutes ago, TheScience said:

Gives a bad massage.

Then Im not keen. No point having a gf who cant massage. Might as well buy a dog.

[Sparktrader]

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Sometimes I read these lists and think, that's the exact opposite of what I want in a woman.

Sex

Food

Massage

No drama

 

4 things

[BangkokReady]

1 hour ago, Bruno123 said:

I don't know about the committed relationship part; but I did not give her any money, other than once; 2000 baht. She knew better than to ask me. So when she did, I knew it was a last resort.

No different than if any friend was in need. I don't give women money to be with me. Friends have each other's backs.

Ok, but you made it sound like she pursued you to the point of a relationship and then supported you financially.

[TheScience]

49 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

Then Im not keen. No point having a gf who cant massage. Might as well buy a dog.

That's absurd. If you need a massage go pay 400b for a proper one. But I think you've missed the point. If the woman is good at massage she's probably had practice.

 

a) Low pay, difficult, dirty job for uneducated people.

b) She's no doubt *massaged* a lot of weiners

 

My wife often gives me a few minutes head massage after a hard day's work.

 

Maybe you ought to just stick with prostitutes. Comparing a productive person and good companion to a dog...best you get a dog humans will disappoint.

 

Kinda no wonder the question was asked in the first place with such a response.

[Sparktrader]

2 minutes ago, TheScience said:

That's absurd. If you need a massage go pay 400b for a proper one. But I think you've missed the point. If the woman is good at massage she's probably had practice.

 

a) Low pay, difficult, dirty job for uneducated people.

b) She's no doubt *massaged* a lot of weiners

 

My wife often gives me a few minutes head massage after a hard day's work.

 

Maybe you ought to just stick with prostitutes. Comparing a productive person and good companion to a dog...best you get a dog humans will disappoint.

 

Kinda no wonder the question was asked in the first place with such a response.

Wrong info. Not all massages are sexual. Ive been to many shops where nothing is offered. 

[TheScience]

1 hour ago, Sparktrader said:

Sex

Food

Massage

No drama

 

4 things

Easy. Your prostitute is waiting for you.

 

You want a relationship with a decent human being? That's work, effort, money.

 

You sound sound like a real charmer.

 

Free massages, sex, dinner on the table. Work 50 hours and never ask for money...yeah, you're a real catch.

[Sparktrader]

2 minutes ago, TheScience said:

Easy. Your prostitute is waiting for you.

 

You want a relationship with a decent human being? That's work, effort, money.

 

You sound sound like a real charmer.

 

Free massages, sex, dinner on the table. Work 50 hours and never ask for money...yeah, you're a real catch.

Work effort money? That sounds like hard work for nothing.

 

 

[TheScience]

Just now, Sparktrader said:

Work effort money? That sounds like hard work for nothing.

 

 

Do yourself and especially every female you encounter a huge favor. Do not enter into any sort of relationship with them. You'll save every one a world of hurt.

[Sparktrader]

Just now, TheScience said:

Do yourself and especially every female you encounter a huge favor. Do not enter into any sort of relationship with them. You'll save every one a world of hurt.

No thanks. Mind your own business if nothing positive to add.

[TheScience]

22 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

No thanks. Mind your own business if nothing positive to add.

I'm not being snarky or trollish when I stated what I did.

 

You're not looking for a relationship you're looking for a fantasy that's obviously elluded you until this point in your life.

 

One hour massage B600

 

Nana short time B1000

 

Greasy farang grub with big soda B550

 

Hotel serviced 1 nt 850b

 

Netflix b50

 

There's your life. Enjoy.

 

Edited April 17, 2022 by TheScience

[Sparktrader]

4 minutes ago, TheScience said:

I'm not being snarky or trollish when I stated what I did.

 

You're not looking for a relationship you're looking for a fantasy that's obviously alluded you until this point in your life.

 

One hour massage B600

 

Nana short time B1000

 

Greasy farang grub with big soda B550

 

Hotel serviced 1 nt 850b

 

Netflix b50

 

There's your life. Enjoy.

 

Thats not true. I had a woman give me massages for years. Cooked dinner, cleaned the house.

 

If a woman cant cook or give massages why bother? 

[Sparktrader]

Western woman cant cook or give massages. Can marry them. They have more money.

 

 

[TheScience]

1 minute ago, Sparktrader said:

Thats not true. I had a woman give me massages for years. Cooked dinner, cleaned the house.

 

If a woman cant cook or give massages why bother? 

I'm certain she was a ravishing beauty with Incompétable charms.

 

Since you're such an experienced Romeo perhaps it's you that should be giving the advice?

 

3 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

If a woman cant cook or give massages why bother? 

Truly. What else are they good for?

[Sparktrader]

3 minutes ago, TheScience said:

I'm certain she was a ravishing beauty with Incompétable charms.

 

Since you're such an experienced Romeo perhaps it's you that should be giving the advice?

 

Truly. What else are they good for?

More charming than you. You sound unhappy.

 

Not sure why you are trying to tell me what to do. I dont tell you what to do. Control issues.

 

Go lecture someone who cares.

[Bruno123]

2 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

Ok, but you made it sound like she pursued you to the point of a relationship and then supported you financially.

That's not how I made it sound; that's simply what you conjured up in your mind.

I am not going to write about my private life here. What is wrong with you? I gave a basic outline in order to make a point; not to prove anything to you. Get a grip!

The conversation was about not paying someone to stay with you. Keep up or ship out.

 

[jwest10]

On 4/13/2022 at 7:50 PM, StayinThailand2much said:

It's not always about 'poor' or 'not poor' in Thailand, but also about being seen as a walking ATM. - Your partner may be a 'good girl' with a decent salary, but towards the end of the month (or earlier) she will have spent all her money already, expecting you to 'help out', as she cannot manage her money.

Some do not have a job and it just the way it is but as long as a few trips or a few days holiday and like everywhere else it happens all at once or not at all.
The problem is when they know of although not family but been friends for many decades and yes very kind hearted but they are rich full stop and often forget everyone else is certainly not as rich as them!!
However, sometimes they forget but also very sensible but also many of us have a fixed frozen state pension and funds do not last forever but again in all countries in the world.
One day at a time and try to enjoy each day and just do the best for your own family.

Edited April 17, 2022 by jwest10
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[chalawaan]

On 4/14/2022 at 12:37 AM, cyril sneer said:

just go the jimmy savile route, don't think he was ever in a meaningful relationship

Now then, now then, it was fun while it lasted. 

[Don Dunkelblum]

Let her pay the bill in the restaurant and everywhere else

[Sparktrader]

4 minutes ago, chalawaan said:

Now then, now then, it was fun while it lasted. 

Not for the victims

[chalawaan]

2 hours ago, Sparktrader said:

Then Im not keen. No point having a gf who cant massage. Might as well buy a dog.

I know a lot of dogs who give great massages, they didn't make the cut for bargirl. 

No need to buy the dogs, just rent.