15 minutes ago, matchar said:

You must have either have a large battery or drive slow or both. Driving at the speed limit of 120 km/h on motorways quickly drains the battery of most EVs.

 

If the power of Thai charging stations is limited then having a large battery is more important for long distance trips. Unless you enjoy taking a 40+ minute break every 2-3 hours to get back up to 80%. 

 

So you don't live in TH, or have a clue about anything concerning BEV or CS here.  Us owners are telling you that the info is incorrect for TH, and yet you continue, with your EU thoughts and info.

 

Give it a rest ... "EV in TH"

1 hour ago, 4myr said:

500k baht down from the original price in Nov 2022.

Is it still expensive?

 

 

Definitely not.   This price reduction will drive a "BIGLY" increase of Atto registrations over the coming months.  The Atto is already the 4th best selling BEV for 2025. 

 

57 minutes ago, matchar said:

As I previously predicted, BYD are desperate to sell locally assembled EVs before years end or they will have to repay the subsidies for all the imported ones.

  local production targets defined by Thailand Board of Investment under the terms of the EV 3.0 incentive programme based on number of Imports for years 2022,2023 and 2024

initally the locally production target was due to be completed by the end of 2025 that date has now been extended until end of 2027

https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/motoring/2914031/thailand-extends-ev-production-deadlines

I don't expect that BYD will have to repay any subsidies for their 2022-2024 imports

3 hours ago, vinny41 said:

200,000 baht discount! Special price for BYD Atto3 100% electric car: 629,900 – 699,900 baht (assembled in Thailand)

https://autolifethailand.tv/official-price-discount-byd-atto3-oct2025/

 

140,000 baht discount! Special price for BYD Dolphin 100% electric car: 449,900 – 569,900 baht (assembled in Thailand)

https://autolifethailand.tv/official-price-discount-byd-dolphin-th-oct2025/

 

This price attack should make the end of year price war extremely bloody!

3 minutes ago, Pib said:

 

This price attack should make the end of year price war extremely bloody!

For vehicles imported 2022-2024 under EV 3.0 and EV 3.5 the ratio to be locally built is 1.5 vehicles for each one imported From 2026 that increases to 2.0 vehicles for each import and 3.0 for 2027

hence the end of year price war this year

 

35 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

For vehicles imported 2022-2024 under EV 3.0 and EV 3.5 the ratio to be locally built is 1.5 vehicles for each one imported From 2026 that increases to 2.0 vehicles for each import and 3.0 for 2027

hence the end of year price war this year
 

Can you expand on why you feel EVO policy is driving the price cuts?  Those quoted EVO  ratios is just noise to my ears without further details/explanation/examples as to why they are the main driver for price cuts.

 

The price reductions could be as simple as BYD being way overstocked....or a BYD  marketing strategy to gain even more market share...etc.   

 

And once again BYD is giving recent buyers the finger...a boner.  

 

The ongoing price war has made me feel that a person shouldn't buy a new vehicle until the last two months of each year when price cuts seem to be HUGE not matter how good an earlier in the year sale may sound.

 

 

 

 

Prices getting almost like in the USA, as dealers try to clear stock before new arrivals.  Always buy your new care late in the year for best discounts, or, used to be.   

 

For BEV, also get rid of old EV platforms, before new & improved hits.   Along with simple price war for market share.

 

Definitely a buyer's market, new & 2nd hand 

3 hours ago, KhunLA said:

 

So you don't live in TH, or have a clue about anything concerning BEV or CS here.  Us owners are telling you that the info is incorrect for TH, and yet you continue, with your EU thoughts and info.

 

Give it a rest ... "EV in TH"

You're totally incorrect as usual.

 

We all know you drive like an old man and like to stop to eat KFC every 2 hours, so an MG with a slow-charging tiny battery suits your lifestyle just perfectly.

2 hours ago, vinny41 said:

  local production targets defined by Thailand Board of Investment under the terms of the EV 3.0 incentive programme based on number of Imports for years 2022,2023 and 2024

initally the locally production target was due to be completed by the end of 2025 that date has now been extended until end of 2027

https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/motoring/2914031/thailand-extends-ev-production-deadlines

I don't expect that BYD will have to repay any subsidies for their 2022-2024 imports

https://www.nationthailand.com/business/automobile/40051189

 

The Ministry of Finance and the Excise Department are closely monitoring Neta’s financial issues. The company faces the possibility of losing its EV 3.0 subsidy if it fails to meet the condition of producing 1.5 times the number of vehicles it imported into Thailand, a target of about 19,000 cars by the end of 2025.

 

The Excise Department is working on a proposal to present to the National Electric Vehicle Policy Committee (EV Board), with the possibility of granting Neta an extension under the EV 3.5 scheme, which would push the deadline for production to the end of 2027.

 

However, the EV 3.5 scheme comes with stricter conditions, including an increase in the production quota to 2-3 times the original amount, and no subsidies will be granted until Neta meets these targets. Despite this, Neta would still benefit from a reduction in excise tax, from 8% to 2%.

36 minutes ago, matchar said:

You're totally incorrect as usual.

 

We all know you drive like an old man and like to stop to eat KFC every 2 hours, so an MG with a slow-charging tiny battery suits your lifestyle just perfectly.

 

I simply do the speed limit, as prefer not to pay fines.  Highway speed limit here is mostly 90 kph.  More than a few stretches allow 120 kph, but only one in my normal travels, not really that much time spend at those speeds.  Will do 110-115, when possible.  Good Luck with that, as obviously you've never driving here.

 

We're lucky if we average 80 kph, over 3 to 5 hrs on the highways here.   Again, you ignorance shines.

 

Not really a KFC fan, though may have a few Zingers & Wing Zaps, during the year.  Probably less than 5 visits a year.  Every 2 hours is way too early for me to eat.  More like 3 or 4 hours in between meals.

 

So wrong again.   And we're in TH, not EU, so may want to provide info about TH, and you won't come off as an ignorant troll.

 

Just a suggestion.

 

6 hours ago, Pib said:

Can you expand on why you feel EVO policy is driving the price cuts?  Those quoted EVO  ratios is just noise to my ears without further details/explanation/examples as to why they are the main driver for price cuts.

 

The price reductions could be as simple as BYD being way overstocked....or a BYD  marketing strategy to gain even more market share...etc.   

 

And once again BYD is giving recent buyers the finger...a boner.  

 

The ongoing price war has made me feel that a person shouldn't buy a new vehicle until the last two months of each year when price cuts seem to be HUGE not matter how good an earlier in the year sale may sound.

 

 

 

 

My understanding was EV 3.0 subsidy ended 31st December 2023 hence the 13,653 registrations in January 2024 although it seems that EV 3 has been extended to 

 The EV3 measure requirement that specified the cars had to be "registered by December 31, 2025" has been changed to "sold by December 31, 2025, and registered by January 31, 2026." For the EV3.5 measure, the timeframe has been extended from "registered by December 31, 2027," to "sold by December 31, 2027, and registered by January 31, 2028."

https://en.prnasia.com/releases/apac/thailand-ev-board-adjusts-ev3-ev3-5-terms-to-promote-exports-as-investment-in-ev-supply-chain-tops-137-billion-baht-498200.shtml

From January 2026, Chinese electric car exports will require an official license. Beijing aims to curb irregular sales and restore industry credibility.

https://www.rinnovabili.net/business/mobility-transportation-business/chinese-electric-car-exports-2026-rules/

EV3.5 Runs from January 2024 to January 2028 

Outlook for Thailand’s electric vehicle industry

However, as the local production requirements of the EV 3.5 policy take effect, it is anticipated that the cost structure for Chinese automakers in Thailand could become higher compared to mass-produced CBUs from China. Under the requirements of the policy, manufacturers must produce at least two locally assembled vehicles for every imported unit by 2026 and increase to a three-to-one ratio by 2027. This shift to local assembly, combined with lower production volumes compared to China's large-scale operations to support global demand, could reduce the cost advantages that Chinese players currently enjoy. As a result, maintaining the competitive pricing that has driven their success in Thailand’s value-for-money segment may become more challenging in the future. 

https://kpmg.com/th/en/home/insights/2025/08/outlook-for-thailand-electric-vehicle-industry.html

 

13 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Link, as BYD dealer site not showing 

reverautomotive page updated now B10K extra is someone orders home charger

Home charger, brand ZHIDA, black, model G-Series, 1 unit, with installation, value 25,000 baht. Customers must notify their intention to exercise their right to purchase the said home charger within the date of receiving the tax invoice for the purchase of a vehicle participating in this campaign. 

https://www.reverautomotive.com/en/news/new-byd-atto3-nov-2025-campaign

https://www.reverautomotive.com/en/news/new-byd-dolphin-nov-2025-campaign

@vinny41

Thanks for the additional info on EVO.  But concluding EVO was the major factor in BYD's very aggressive price cutting over the last couple years is purely speculative/opinion without knowing if EVO was putting BYD and other participating manufacturers into a real bind (i.e., money losing) situation because of EVO requirements/targets.   

 

Other issues such as possibly being overstocked, market strategy to gain market share, making it hard for other Chinese vehicle competitors to get any real foothold in the Thai market, etc., could have been the biggest factors.   That's my opinion, speculation, guess.

 

Whether higher/big January registrations was due to some EVO subsidies being reduced "or" just end of year big price cuts for non-EVO reasons is purely opinion without the vehicle manufacturers giving the real reasons for their price cuts---and I'm sure manufacturers would never publicly give their reason reasons, their board room decision process, etc.   

 

When I made it known to Thai family during the summer of 2023 I would be buying a new car quite a few of them said I should wait until the end of the year as that's when the bulk of the best deals are offered.  It was like in a "Thai's mind" you should wait until the end of the year to buy a new car whenever possible as that's always the best time to get the best deal....and of course this results in higher higher registration stats for Nov, Dec, and following year Jan stats.  Oh, year, and let's not forget the end of year motor show with country-wide promotions.

 

Now EV buyers may have surely believed end of year price cuts would be a once in a lifetime chance to grab a good deal because of EVO and BYD (and other manufacturers) were happy to let customers think that when in fact the manufacturers' core reason(s) for their price cuts may not have been EVO related at all; instead, other factors were the main drivers.  

 

I sure know when I bought my BYD Atto in Oct 2023 it was due to two reasons:

(1)  I was ready for a new car  to replace my 2009 Toyota Fortuner (which I still have as my 2nd car) and I wanted a BEV as that replacement

2) I believed the EVO subsidy reduction (maybe even going away) would result in a price increase come January but, no, the price reductions continued to come along every 6 months or so as the price war got more bloody.

 

I also see BYD current Atto and Dolphin promotions/price cuts supposedly end 10 Dec which also happens to be when the end of year Motor Expo 2025 ends...the Motor Expo runs from 29 Nov -10 Dec with its country-wide promotions.   BYD has basically just begun their latest price attack early....before the Motor Expo begins...putting competitors on the defensive.  Once again we'll see big registration increases over the coming months...no doubt Jan stats showing a BIG increase.

 

 

 

 

P.S.   where I say EVO above I really meant the  EV3.X program.  I had the BYD e-platform "EVO" architecture on my brain so I kept saying EVO vs the intended EV3.x.

7 hours ago, vinny41 said:

reverautomotive page updated now B10K extra is someone orders home charger

Home charger, brand ZHIDA, black, model G-Series, 1 unit, with installation, value 25,000 baht. Customers must notify their intention to exercise their right to purchase the said home charger within the date of receiving the tax invoice for the purchase of a vehicle participating in this campaign. 

https://www.reverautomotive.com/en/news/new-byd-atto3-nov-2025-campaign

https://www.reverautomotive.com/en/news/new-byd-dolphin-nov-2025-campaign

that charger is 12,000 baht online thou. 

I also have that same one, it works fine, only that you need to use the RFID card every time to allow charging. so I attached mine permanently.

I took delivery yesterday of a PHEV.

 

I would have preferred an EV but they don’t make the car I wanted in a pure EV.

 

Most of my driving will be in EV mode anyway.

 

I need to cancel my Seal order, will I get my 10k THB deposit back do you think?

 

It's my eldest daughter’s birthday at the end of the year, I’m mulling over giving my Seal to her for her birthday and we can give the MG4 to the youngest daughter.  

4 minutes ago, brfsa2 said:

that charger is 12,000 baht online thou. 

I also have that same one, it works fine, only that you need to use the RFID card every time to allow charging. so I attached mine permanently.

The BYD supplied ABB Charger IMHO is one of the best out there.  Its capabilities both stand alone and with solar daughter board are stunning. 

4 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

The BYD supplied ABB Charger IMHO is one of the best out there.  Its capabilities both stand alone and with solar daughter board are stunning. 

 

Funny that because the charger is actually in the car.  The box is simply a different extension cord with an EV plug.

 

20 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

 

Funny that because the charger is actually in the car.  The box is simply a different extension cord with an EV plug.

 

Read the manual, the ABB box is a massive amount more than a different extension cord with an EV plug.

 

It has an onboard Ethernet port, RS423 ( I think that’s the spec) connectivity too.

 

The ability to free vend or only specific users and/or times of day.

 

It can vary the charge rate dynamically whilst charging (I don’t know another box that can do that).

 

It can interface with billing software and is used by some EV charging companies and with the solar daughter board can interface with solar systems dynamically stop/starting or altering the charge rate based on solar output.

 

It can be wired up single phase 7.2Kw or 3 phase 22Kw.

26 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

Its capabilities both stand alone and with solar daughter board are stunning. 

 

can you explain this bit more? 

I considered before the Huawei car charger that can connect to my 5K Huawei inverter, you have the option to charge only from the solar output, for example, if your array produces 3300 watt, then charge the car at that maximum power of 3.3kw. controllable via the Huawei Solar Fusion app.

they used to be super expensive a few years ago, now they are a bit more expensive than ABB, so might be interesting for people with the Huawei inverter.

 

3 minutes ago, brfsa2 said:

 

can you explain this bit more? 

I considered before the Huawei car charger that can connect to my 5K Huawei inverter, you have the option to charge only from the solar output, for example, if your array produces 3300 watt, then charge the car at that maximum power of 3.3kw. controllable via the Huawei Solar Fusion app.

they used to be super expensive a few years ago, now they are a bit more expensive than ABB, so might be interesting for people with the Huawei inverter.

 

About 18 months ago I searched and found the daughter board online for sale in Germany.

 

I couldn’t find the documentation for this though.

 

If your inverters as RS422 then I think you could program it entirely with a Raspberry PI without using the daughter board. 
 

You could probably make some money selling the kits too.

29 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

 

Funny that because the charger is actually in the car.  The box is simply a different extension cord with an EV plug.

 

The charger is two part, it's true that part 1 is in the car when AC charging, it's the AC->DC inverter.

The external part of the AC EV charger handles the initial negotiation of charging speed with the car, voltage protection, current leak and other safety things. 

I have a Duosido 10A charger and I was looking to buy a 15A to boost a bit my charging speed when the aircons are not used, I'm limited to 30A-40A. 

1 minute ago, JBChiangRai said:

About 18 months ago I searched and found the daughter board online for sale in Germany.

 

I couldn’t find the documentation for this though.

 

If your inverters as RS422 then I think you could program it entirely with a Raspberry PI without using the daughter board. 
 

You could probably make some money selling the kits too.

I have like a dozen Raspberry PI doing nothing in my plastic boxes.

do you have the links to share here? if I have time I want to research and experiment.

 

47 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

I took delivery yesterday of a PHEV.

 

I would have preferred an EV but they don’t make the car I wanted in a pure EV.

 

Most of my driving will be in EV mode anyway.

 

I need to cancel my Seal order, will I get my 10k THB deposit back do you think?

 

It's my eldest daughter’s birthday at the end of the year, I’m mulling over giving my Seal to her for her birthday and we can give the MG4 to the youngest daughter.  

Don’t forget your adopted son 🥹

Again, with the ABB charger and an analogue to digital voltage sensor you could program a Raspberry Pi to dynamically alter the charge rate based on PRA voltage at the house.

Question: Anyone know of a good Wall charger that can support variable current of 10,16,32 Amp and that can retain the settings on power cuts?

41 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

 

Funny that because the charger is actually in the car.  The box is simply a different extension cord with an EV plug.

 

You again ?

Chipping in with some comment pretending you understand the topic, clearly you don’t !

I don’t have any documentation, you would need to get a hold of the manual for the ABB charger and specifically the commands that it accepts over ethernet or RS 422.

1 hour ago, brfsa2 said:

Question: Anyone know of a good Wall charger that can support variable current of 10,16,32 Amp and that can retain the settings on power cuts?

 

Most adjustable EVSE devices hold the last setting in non volatile memory and restore it automatically after power loss but there are those that default to the lowest level after power outage. Best to research before purchase.

 

Lots of external on the fly control can be done with EVSE basic negotiation but more complex control requires connection to vehicle comms at the charging port.

Below is photo of our DIY EVSE used by family visitors. Simple output level control timer setting and auto/man switch. RS485 included but not used at present. The BIL has taken over the project and currently working on V3 which will include some solar integration digital display and button control settings.