3 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

10 minutes ago, gargamon said:

Probably not available in Thailand yet.And they have a land cruiser/land rover type with an electric motor on each wheel. Wanna do a tank manouver in you SUV?

BYD’s Tank Mode (or Tank Turn) allows the vehicle to spin 360 degrees on its own axis. Available on the Yangwang U8 via BYD's e⁴ platform, it utilizes four independent electric motors to rotate the left and right wheels in opposite directions.

Battery Cell Import Rule Extended with Local Focus: To support the ongoing transition to local battery manufacturing, the rule allowing imported battery cells to be counted towards local content requirements is extended by six months to June 30, 2026. However, from January 1, 2026, the maximum value from imported cells that can be counted will be cut to 10% of the EV's factory price. Participating applicants will have to provide a clear domestic sourcing plan.

https://www.boi.go.th/index.php?page=press_releases_detail&topic_id=138252&_module=news&from_page=press_releases2

impressive as it is, no way that thing is coming to Thailand anytime soon!

I dont know what BYD Thailand is up to, they still lack of a true 800V and 250+ kW capabilities to fast charge.

Their only strong point are the high number of dealers and their eco cars success such as dolphin.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJKhhRvevnw

BYD U9

3 minutes ago, brfsa2 said:

impressive as it is, no way that thing is coming to Thailand anytime soon!

I dont know what BYD Thailand is up to, they still lack of a true 800V and 250+ kW capabilities to fast charge.

Their only strong point are the high number of dealers and their eco cars success such as dolphin.

Fast charge is so overrated. Give me slow charge from 2-3 solar panels and a couple of 12v 100ah batteries.

Malaysia Changes for CBU fully imported EVs, from July 1st minimum selling price of RM300,000 approx B2,440,998 and minimum power output of 180 kW, which is equivalent to 245 PS or 241 hp

For context, let’s take a look at BYD. Currently, the EV giant’s entire lineup in Malaysia is CBU imported but only the Seal and Sealion 7 meet the minimum 180 kW requirement – this means that unless they’re locally assembled, the Dolphin, M6, Atto 2, Atto 3 and Seal 6 will no longer be allowed to be sold here.

For the two surviving sea creatures, the Seal and Sealion 7 are currently priced below RM200k, which means that their CIF figures are well below RM200k – even if this value can somehow be inflated to meet MITI’s new CIF requirement, would anyone pay in excess of RM300k for those models when everyone knows the ‘true’ tax-free price. So, while it’s not worded as such, is this effectively a ban on non-premium CBU EVs?

https://paultan.org/2026/05/06/miti-issues-new-rules-for-cbu-evs-effective-min-price-rm300k-245-ps-fr-july-promote-ckd-protect-proton/

Will Byd increase their Thailand imports to offset Malaysian imports reduction

5 hours ago, vinny41 said:

I suspect you are correct as new rules for EV batteries kick in from July 1st 2026

Battery Cell Import Rule Extended with Local Focus: To support the ongoing transition to local battery manufacturing, the rule allowing imported battery cells to be counted towards local content requirements is extended by six months to June 30, 2026. However, from January 1, 2026, the maximum value from imported cells that can be counted will be cut to 10% of the EV's factory price. Participating applicants will have to provide a clear domestic sourcing plan.

https://www.boi.go.th/index.php?page=press_releases_detail&topic_id=138252&_module=news&from_page=press_releases2

That explains a lot about BYD and other things I’m speculating.

I am just learning of this law.

My opinion, blade 2.0 batteries might not be here for a while for sure.

Even less lifetime warranty.

The Mercedes 800v battery is assembled in Thailand though. But no lifetime warranty.

In still convincing the wife to drop the im5 and buy Bitcoin instead, 2 years later she can get the Mercedes. Hehehe.

47 minutes ago, brfsa2 said:

That explains a lot about BYD and other things I’m speculating.

I am just learning of this law.

My opinion, blade 2.0 batteries might not be here for a while for sure.

Even less lifetime warranty.

The Mercedes 800v battery is assembled in Thailand though. But no lifetime warranty.

In still convincing the wife to drop the im5 and buy Bitcoin instead, 2 years later she can get the Mercedes. Hehehe.

The electric vehicle batteries for MG vehicles in Thailand including their upcoming premium models like the MG IM5—are manufactured and assembled at the HASCO-CP Battery Shop, Chonburi

so will not be affected by Battery changes starting July 1st

There are predications that models where the battery is imported will see price increases from July 1st onwards

13 hours ago, vinny41 said:

The electric vehicle batteries for MG vehicles in Thailand including their upcoming premium models like the MG IM5—are manufactured and assembled at the HASCO-CP Battery Shop, Chonburi

so will not be affected by Battery changes starting July 1st

There are predications that models where the battery is imported will see price increases from July 1st onwards

Are you sure about that? Isn’t The IM5 a CBU? Or you mean when it becomes build in Thailand?

Edited June 6Jun 6 by brfsa2

50 minutes ago, brfsa2 said:

Are you sure about that? Isn’t The IM5 a CBU? Or you mean when it becomes build in Thailand?

Yes you are correct IM5 is a CBU from China at the moment so should expect price increase from July 1st assuming there is no stock in Thailand

Here is something for those who think charging takes a long time on a long journey.

We are currently in Khao Lak (near Phuket) having driven from Chiang Rai, about 2,000km.

It was quicker than stopping in an ICE car and refueling.

Every time we stopped for pee, coffee or food, we plugged the car in. No need to scan or open an app, just plug in and walk off.

Every hotel we stayed in we recharged overnight.

We never charged and waited for charging, even on a bank holiday weekend, we just unplugged and drove off after Pee or whatever.

You can’t leave your ICE car to refuel by itself so we saved a lot of time.

None of the stops had a queue to charge, almost every PTT we looked at had a charger.

1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:

Every time we stopped for pee, coffee or food, we plugged the car in. No need to scan or open an app, just plug in and walk off.

So the charge was free or you paid in cash ?

On 6/5/2026 at 10:38 AM, marino28 said:

Let’s see when it will arrive in Thailand

https://paultan.org/2026/06/05/byd-atto-3-facelift-in-malaysia-fwd-and-rwd-evo-up-to-313-ps-510-km-wltp-220-kw-dcfc-from-rm126k/

Great news. Might consider Atto 3 with RWD

10 hours ago, johng said:

So the charge was free or you paid in cash ?

I pre-registered with PTT sometime ago and it reads the car digitally when you plug it in and just debits my bank account when I unplugged it

I just saw this on our neighbours car. Peeling paint from the roof. How's that possible? Haval H6. How old is this car? Maximum three years?

11 minutes ago, CLW said:

I just saw this on our neighbours car. Peeling paint from the roof. How's that possible? Haval H6. How old is this car? Maximum three years?

why don’t you just ask the owner in your neighborhood? 😁

On 6/6/2026 at 10:02 AM, JBChiangRai said:

Here is something for those who think charging takes a long time on a long journey.

We are currently in Khao Lak (near Phuket) having driven from Chiang Rai, about 2,000km.

It was quicker than stopping in an ICE car and refueling.

Every time we stopped for pee, coffee or food, we plugged the car in. No need to scan or open an app, just plug in and walk off.

Every hotel we stayed in we recharged overnight.

We never charged and waited for charging, even on a bank holiday weekend, we just unplugged and drove off after Pee or whatever.

You can’t leave your ICE car to refuel by itself so we saved a lot of time.

None of the stops had a queue to charge, almost every PTT we looked at had a charger.

I agree with your point about time-saving, at least in part.

We charge at home and very rarely use public chargers. When you add that up over a year, an EV can save a decent amount of time simply because you're not making regular trips to petrol stations every week.

That said, I'd argue that filling a petrol car is still quicker than charging an EV when you're away from home. The difference really comes down to how we define "refuelling".

If I park an EV on a rapid charger, I can walk away, grab a coffee or a KFC, and the car might charge from 30% to 80% in around 20 minutes.

With a petrol car, I can fill the tank, pay, and be back on the road in five minutes. I can then spend the remaining 15 minutes having that same coffee or KFC if I choose.

So when travelling, the difference is often less significant than people make out, provided you're already planning to stop for a rest or a meal. The charging time is effectively being used for something else.

We've also charged at hotels, but that requires choosing accommodation that actually offers charging facilities. Even then, the process isn't always straightforward because every provider seems to have its own system.

Typical examples include:

• Downloading an app and pre-loading credit (for example, 400 baht), then returning later once you've used the credit and moving the car so another EV can use the charger.

• Downloading a different app, scanning a QR code, plugging in, monitoring the session through the app, receiving a notification when charging is complete, and then returning to move the vehicle.

I've even used EV chargers at petrol stations where another driver was waiting for the charger when I returned. Queues do happen, although I've personally never had to wait for a charger myself.

Some charging networks allow you to reserve a charger ahead of time, but that's not always easy when you're already on the road, and it's practically impossible to arrange while driving alone.

Because we charge away from home so infrequently, almost every public charging session seems to involve some kind of setup issue becuase our App was out of date / the next station is a new company etc. An app needs updating, a new app needs downloading, payment details need entering again, or an account needs reactivating before charging can begin.

At the moment, I have 12 different charging apps installed on my phone.

So, in summary, much of this comes down to perspective and personal experience.

• If you mostly charge at home, an EV is significantly more convenient than having to visit a petrol station every week.

• If you're travelling long distances and relying on public infrastructure, petrol is still simpler and more straightforward.

• Public EV charging is entirely manageable, but it introduces an extra layer of complexity that consumes more time and attention than the simple "plug in and charge" experience we're often led to expect.

• The experience also improves considerably if you're a frequent EV driver. If you regularly charge on the road, you'll already have the apps installed, payment methods set up, and a good understanding of the charging networks, so many of these frustrations largely disappear.

Neither system is perfect. Home charging is where EVs really shine, while petrol still holds an advantage for simplicity and convenience during long-distance travel.

On 6/6/2026 at 10:02 AM, JBChiangRai said:

Every time we stopped for pee, coffee or food, we plugged the car in. No need to scan or open an app, just plug in and walk off.

Seems strange - No App or QR code to download - how do you pay for charging ?

Or, are you using the 'Tesla' system with an account thats 'pre-set' up - so effectively its 'tap and go' with no QR codes etc ?

On 6/6/2026 at 10:02 AM, JBChiangRai said:

You can’t leave your ICE car to refuel by itself so we saved a lot of time.

Often I will wander into the shop to buy a water whilst my ICE car is being filled.

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Seems strange - No App or QR code to download - how do you pay for charging ?

Or, are you using the 'Tesla' system with an account thats 'pre-set' up - so effectively its 'tap and go' with no QR codes etc ?

it is called "auto charge". a few charging providers offer this service. i think ev station pulz, pea, rever, etc. have it.

it is a convenient way to charge ...

ptt ev station pluz:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1BN5QoasJv/

3 hours ago, CLW said:

I just saw this on our neighbours car. Peeling paint from the roof. How's that possible? Haval H6. How old is this car? Maximum three years?

Hard to really tell from the photo but when I zoomed it it looked like he had the glass sunroof sprayed on the outside with some kind of paint/coating...and it's just peeling off. If that's what it is (vs just some strange reflections in the picture) unless the glass was properly prep'ed the paint/coating will peel off after a short while.

3 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

I agree with your point about time-saving, at least in part.

We charge at home and very rarely use public chargers. When you add that up over a year, an EV can save a decent amount of time simply because you're not making regular trips to petrol stations every week.

That said, I'd argue that filling a petrol car is still quicker than charging an EV when you're away from home. The difference really comes down to how we define "refuelling".

If I park an EV on a rapid charger, I can walk away, grab a coffee or a KFC, and the car might charge from 30% to 80% in around 20 minutes.

With a petrol car, I can fill the tank, pay, and be back on the road in five minutes. I can then spend the remaining 15 minutes having that same coffee or KFC if I choose.

So when travelling, the difference is often less significant than people make out, provided you're already planning to stop for a rest or a meal. The charging time is effectively being used for something else.

We've also charged at hotels, but that requires choosing accommodation that actually offers charging facilities. Even then, the process isn't always straightforward because every provider seems to have its own system.

Typical examples include:

• Downloading an app and pre-loading credit (for example, 400 baht), then returning later once you've used the credit and moving the car so another EV can use the charger.

• Downloading a different app, scanning a QR code, plugging in, monitoring the session through the app, receiving a notification when charging is complete, and then returning to move the vehicle.

I've even used EV chargers at petrol stations where another driver was waiting for the charger when I returned. Queues do happen, although I've personally never had to wait for a charger myself.

Some charging networks allow you to reserve a charger ahead of time, but that's not always easy when you're already on the road, and it's practically impossible to arrange while driving alone.

Because we charge away from home so infrequently, almost every public charging session seems to involve some kind of setup issue becuase our App was out of date / the next station is a new company etc. An app needs updating, a new app needs downloading, payment details need entering again, or an account needs reactivating before charging can begin.

At the moment, I have 12 different charging apps installed on my phone.

So, in summary, much of this comes down to perspective and personal experience.

• If you mostly charge at home, an EV is significantly more convenient than having to visit a petrol station every week.

• If you're travelling long distances and relying on public infrastructure, petrol is still simpler and more straightforward.

• Public EV charging is entirely manageable, but it introduces an extra layer of complexity that consumes more time and attention than the simple "plug in and charge" experience we're often led to expect.

• The experience also improves considerably if you're a frequent EV driver. If you regularly charge on the road, you'll already have the apps installed, payment methods set up, and a good understanding of the charging networks, so many of these frustrations largely disappear.

Neither system is perfect. Home charging is where EVs really shine, while petrol still holds an advantage for simplicity and convenience during long-distance travel.

Seems strange - No App or QR code to download - how do you pay for charging ?

Or, are you using the 'Tesla' system with an account thats 'pre-set' up - so effectively its 'tap and go' with no QR codes etc ?

Charging is as Motdaeng says, I did have to open an app to slide something to stop charging, but we used Spark or EVstationPluz auto charge.

Whether it is quicker, I think comes down to your habits. We never stopped to charge and we never stayed on the charger longer than our stop anyway.

Whether it is quicker, I think comes down to your habits. We never stopped specifically to charge and we never stayed on the charger longer than our stop anyway.

I try to drink a lot of water and I do need to stop every couple of hours or less for a pee and my partner always wants something in a 7/11 too.

In 1,900 km we never had to wait for the car, sometimes we were charging when the car was already at 80%. If we stopped we charged.

The big surprise for me was PTT fuel stations, on the highways, virtually every one had chargers.

5 hours ago, Pib said:

Hard to really tell from the photo but when I zoomed it it looked like he had the glass sunroof sprayed on the outside with some kind of paint/coating...and it's just peeling off. If that's what it is (vs just some strange reflections in the picture) unless the glass was properly prep'ed the paint/coating will peel off after a short while.

That is certainly the paint, and not the sunroof glass as it ends before that in a curved edge.

cant tell much, need a better zoomed photo, you really got us curious. :D

10 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

Charging is as Motdaeng says, I did have to open an app to slide something to stop charging, but we used Spark or EVstationPluz auto charge.

Whether it is quicker, I think comes down to your habits. We never stopped to charge and we never stayed on the charger longer than our stop anyway.

Whether it is quicker, I think comes down to your habits. We never stopped specifically to charge and we never stayed on the charger longer than our stop anyway.

I try to drink a lot of water and I do need to stop every couple of hours or less for a pee and my partner always wants something in a 7/11 too.

In 1,900 km we never had to wait for the car, sometimes we were charging when the car was already at 80%. If we stopped we charged.

The big surprise for me was PTT fuel stations, on the highways, virtually every one had chargers.

How's the trip going?

2 hours ago, carlyai said:

How's the trip going?

We are having a wonderful time, we’re currently in Khao Lak and enjoying it so much we canceled Krabi and decided to have an extra 3 days here.

We’ve met @macahoom who bought us dinner on Friday and we’re returning the compliment tonight.

I’m enjoying the SL7 too, we’re drying mostly using the cruise control at 90kmhr with auto steer, and the estimated range of 530km seems to be spot on. The drive is very relaxing.

2 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

We are having a wonderful time, we’re currently in Khao Lak and enjoying it so much we canceled Krabi and decided to have an extra 3 days here.

We’ve met @macahoom who bought us dinner on Friday and we’re returning the compliment tonight.

I’m enjoying the SL7 too, we’re drying mostly using the cruise control at 90kmhr with auto steer, and the estimated range of 530km seems to be spot on. The drive is very relaxing.

Sounds great..I didn't like Krabi that much, nice but other places nicer.

Yesterday at BYD Mukdahan had a manual (OTA 555) update for Google Maps and other. Once I got past the sales people saying "It can't be done in Thailand yet" all was OK. So my biggest moan about the SL7 not knowing where I live has been overcome.

I didn't do it before as I wanted BYD to update due to any conflict later with warranties.

Safe travel.

I will ask our dealer about Google Maps too, I like it better than the built-in Nav.

4 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

We are having a wonderful time, we’re currently in Khao Lak and enjoying it so much we canceled Krabi and decided to have an extra 3 days here.

We’ve met @macahoom who bought us dinner on Friday and we’re returning the compliment tonight.

I’m enjoying the SL7 too, we’re drying mostly using the cruise control at 90kmhr with auto steer, and the estimated range of 530km seems to be spot on. The drive is very relaxing.

How would you say it compares with the Seal ?

We already know it has bigger rear storage and is easier to enter/exit but with the drag coefficient being higher probably not as efficient, what else do you find better or worse ??

Is it roomier, more comfortable seating, more responsive, better UI, any more features ( sunshade, better wireless charging etc ) ?

Did you fit the OEM dashcam and are you able to add any apps ( Google Maps, YouTube, Netflix etc ) ?

One of my gripes with the Seal is the position of the two front parking sensors, has that been addressed on SL 7 ?

I still love my Seal but don’t see any advances on this platform here in Thailand, the trend seems to be more conservative ( Seal 06) .

I have always said that if I had to choose today for a new car ( god forbid a write off or stolen ) i would go with SL7 .

Just want to get some feedback from someone who has owned both.

17 hours ago, motdaeng said:

it is called "auto charge". a few charging providers offer this service. i think ev station pulz, pea, rever, etc. have it.

it is a convenient way to charge ...

ptt ev station pluz:

16 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

Charging is as Motdaeng says, I did have to open an app to slide something to stop charging, but we used Spark or EVstationPluz auto charge.

If I recall correctly, with those apps you still need to scan the QR code on the charger to initiate charging, and then swipe within the App to end the session and disconnect (and you can see charge status on the app itself while away from the car).

EVstationPluz has my card details stored - so the billing process itself is seamless.

But Spark requires a 'balance' - I just checked and I have B1690 on there - I've had that balance there for over year I'm assuming - (probably from when I last charged at a hotel) - I'm unable to 'remove' the balance from that wallet back to my account - which is little cheeky IMO.

8 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

If I recall correctly, with those apps you still need to scan the QR code on the charger to initiate charging, and then swipe within the App to end the session and disconnect (and you can see charge status on the app itself while away from the car).

EVstationPluz has my card details stored - so the billing process itself is seamless.

But Spark requires a 'balance' - I just checked and I have B1690 on there - I've had that balance there for over year I'm assuming - (probably from when I last charged at a hotel) - I'm unable to 'remove' the balance from that wallet back to my account - which is little cheeky IMO.

I use the Rever app for Spark, I’ve only charged once with that but many times with PTT (EVstationPluz).

You don’t need to open any app with PTT (and IIRC with Rever too). Just plug in and walk away.

You do need to open the app and move a slider to stop charging before 100%

1 hour ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

How would you say it compares with the Seal ?

We already know it has bigger rear storage and is easier to enter/exit but with the drag coefficient being higher probably not as efficient, what else do you find better or worse ??

Is it roomier, more comfortable seating, more responsive, better UI, any more features ( sunshade, better wireless charging etc ) ?

Did you fit the OEM dashcam and are you able to add any apps ( Google Maps, YouTube, Netflix etc ) ?

One of my gripes with the Seal is the position of the two front parking sensors, has that been addressed on SL 7 ?

I still love my Seal but don’t see any advances on this platform here in Thailand, the trend seems to be more conservative ( Seal 06) .

I have always said that if I had to choose today for a new car ( god forbid a write off or stolen ) i would go with SL7 .

Just want to get some feedback from someone who has owned both.

It’s a lot bigger inside and out than the Seal. It’s a lot easier to get in and out of.

I’m finding it much more economical than the Seal but that’s probably because we’re cruising at 90 and on better roads than the Chiang Rai to Chiang Mai highway (which always sends by blood pressure sky high).

The UI feels better, there’s no seat heating (occasionally useful in Chiang Rai mornings), but no other apps possible to load, I will see the dealer about that.

It rides more comfortably, than the Seal, I think the Seal is sprung differently. I’m not a fan of SUV’s, I prefer saloons. I think the Seal is a nicer looking car but the Sealion is much more comfortable.

When I first test drove the SL7 AWD, we went in the Seal and the SL7 was noticeably slower. However, right now it feels similar, it’s still incredibly quick when you want it to be. The seat ventilation is good but not quite as good as the Seal.

If I had to choose between the 2 tomorrow, I would go with the SL7, it’s definitely more comfortable and relaxing.

23 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

I use the Rever app for Spark, I’ve only charged once with that but many times with PTT (EVstationPluz).

You don’t need to open any app with PTT (and IIRC with Rever too). Just plug in and walk away.

You do need to open the app and move a slider to stop charging before 100%

Ok - thats new (for me at least) probably because I haven't used a public charging station in over a year - so this is a new learning process for me.

I'm wondering how the PTT Chargers (EVstationPluz) chargers even recognise your car - I'm assuming once plugged in their is some 'digital signature' for the 'auto-charge' feature.

Here are the screen shots for my PTT EVstationPluz App - clearly instructing me to 'scan'.

I'm wondering what the difference and how 'plug & charge' without scanning functions (simply out of interest in this discussion).

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

I'm wondering how the PTT Chargers (EVstationPluz) chargers even recognise your car - I'm assuming once plugged in their is some 'digital signature' for the 'auto-cHere are the screen shots for my PTT EVstationPluz App - clearly instructing me to 'scan'.

I'm wondering what the difference and how 'plug & charge' without scanning functions (simply out of interest in this discussion).

here is a short video explaining ptt "auto charge" ... (it seems facebook link will not work here ...)

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1BWvskxaz4/

Edited June 8Jun 8 by motdaeng

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Ok - thats new (for me at least) probably because I haven't used a public charging station in over a year - so this is a new learning process for me.

I'm wondering how the PTT Chargers (EVstationPluz) chargers even recognise your car - I'm assuming once plugged in their is some 'digital signature' for the 'auto-charge' feature.

Here are the screen shots for my PTT EVstationPluz App - clearly instructing me to 'scan'.

I'm wondering what the difference and how 'plug & charge' without scanning functions (simply out of interest in this discussion).

In the app, go profile, vehicle and then right arrow and turn auto charge on.