30 minutes ago, motdaeng said:

maybe i am mistaken, then my apologies ... but aren't you the atto 3 driver who did around 100,000 km per year? 🙃

i get it, you expected more from byd, the atto 3 was maybe not the right car for you, fair enough ...

i do criticize the lack of software updates, and the overall byd car software does not impress me much either.

but other cars and brands also have their own issues ... all in all, i am happy with byd sl7 awd, really fun do drive ...

no worries!

The SL7 is a lovely car, I mentioned before, I rented it for 2 weeks. I loved it!

Cars must be fun to drive otherwise what's the point in a hard working life :D

I have a 2014 Honda HRV, my first car, now with 200k km, I enjoy driving it with my dogs and to the rivers :)

It’s official .

5 of June. New atto 3 in Malesia . Let’s see

On 5/26/2026 at 7:27 PM, Pib said:

I'll wait for the Chinese knockoff at one tenth the price and it will probably include a lifetime warranty on the high voltage battery and motors.

https://autolifethailand.tv/ferrari-luce-ev-first-ever/

For you Ferrari exceptional customers out there, here's the official Thailand price for a Ferrari LUCE 100% EV after adding Thailand import duty, excise VAT, etc., taxes....just under 34 million baht. If I hadn't just bought a BYD SL7 AWD for 1.3 mil (about 4% the cost of a LUCE) I would probably be interested in booking a LUCE. Oh, wait a minute, I need to stop being delusional....I probably couldn't even afford a Ferrari booking fee.😆

26 minutes ago, Pib said:

For you Ferrari exceptional customers out there, here's the official Thailand price for a Ferrari LUCE 100% EV after adding Thailand import duty, excise VAT, etc., taxes....just under 34 million baht. If I hadn't just bought a BYD SL7 AWD for 1.3 mil (about 4% the cost of a LUCE) I would probably be interested in booking a LUCE. Oh, wait a minute, I need to stop being delusional....I probably couldn't even afford a Ferrari booking fee.😆

A steal at that price. :) Wonder what I'd get as a trade-in for my SL7?

16 minutes ago, carlyai said:

A steal at that price. :) Wonder what I'd get as a trade-in for my SL7?

I'm thinking trade-in at a Ferrari dealership would probably get you some Ferrari floor mats. 😁

42 minutes ago, Pib said:

For those that have more money than sense. There are nicer looking and as good or better performers out there, for less than 1/10 th the prices.

MG Cyberstar (Lifetime warranty), mere 2.5M available now or Xiaomi SU7, when available, or could import it, are 2 choices I'd go with.

Edited June 3Jun 3 by KhunLA

Not sure if this has been covered already.

Thought I'd have to change my plates

On 4/22/2022 at 11:53 AM, buddy2010 said:

I had been seriously interested in an e-vehicle!

The problem is, for me anyway, that I am not allowed to install a wallbox in my condominium!
Neither in the underground parking nor outside!!!

Argument: Common Area, may not be used privately!

1 hour ago, 241195_1469957797 said:

This nothing more than jealousy.

i have a 3-phase 11 kw / 16 a wall charger. it is not exposed to weather and has been used about once a week for a bit more than 1 year.

the cable insulation now looks visibly swollen or deformed in several spots. do you have the same issue with your wall charger cable?

We have a 4 chargers, no problems with any of them, I just gave away the ABB one that came with a Seal to my neighbour as he’s bought a Chery and is upgrading to 3 phase.

6 minutes ago, motdaeng said:

i have a 3-phase 11 kw / 16 a wall charger. it is not exposed to weather and has been used about once a week for a bit more than 1 year.

the cable insulation now looks visibly swollen or deformed in several spots. do you have the same issue with your wall charger cable?

Hi, looks to me that the cable has been made up of the inside cables plus black heat shrink, not a molded cable.

I have included a pic of my cable.

Bid difficult to see, but no deformation.

3 phase Feyee ESS.

6 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

We have a 4 chargers, no problems with any of them, I just gave away the ABB one that came with a Seal to my neighbour as he’s bought a Chery and is upgrading to 3 phase.

Edited June 4Jun 4 by carlyai

the cable specs ...

Some how JBChaingRai and my posts got mated together.

@motdaeng is your charger/cable still under warranty?

I'd complain to the seller.

3 minutes ago, carlyai said:

Some how JBChaingRai and my posts got mated together.

@motdaeng is your charger/cable still under warranty?

I'd complain to the seller.

the charger is over 1 year old, so there is no warranty anymore. it looks like the best option is to replace the cable. thanks!

While I'm here with friends, just a note on SPD or MOV's.

I have fused SPD on the PV panels and 3 phase into the house, but overlooked SPD on the feed into the ATS.

The other night had some close lightning strikes which caused strange inverter problems (battery rapid discharge spike about every 5 hours and the house exporting to the grid) seems like the lightning strike took out my CTs in the ATS, when I changed the program from 'export to CTs' to 'export to load' problem cleared (after system reset).

Don't forget the SPD on the input to the ATS as the ATS phase protector can't handle very quick power surges.

As always this is my take and I could be talking rubbish again. :)

37 minutes ago, carlyai said:

Some how JBChaingRai and my posts got mated together.

@motdaeng is your charger/cable still under warranty?

I'd complain to the seller.

correction ... the wall charger has a 2 year warranty ... let's see what happens ... thanks for your helpful advice ... 😄

1 hour ago, motdaeng said:

i have a 3-phase 11 kw / 16 a wall charger. it is not exposed to weather and has been used about once a week for a bit more than 1 year.

the cable insulation now looks visibly swollen or deformed in several spots. do you have the same issue with your wall charger cable?

Nope....haven't experienced this issue with my charging cables carrying 7KW/32A.

I looks like the cable's outer jacket (sheath) has separated from the current carrying cables which can allow the wires to abnormally twist....just like how heat shrink tubing will act when twisted. Regardless of the specs printed on the cable I expect the cable may not be of high quality. And ditto to what carlyai inferred regarding how the cable appears to have been manufactured via a jacket heat shrink method vs molded cable method.

And it's hard to tell from the picture but when "feeling" the wrinkles can you feel an internal wire or is the feel more like just the jacket only bunching up? If you can feel a wire vs just a wrinkle in the jacket then the internal wires are also being allowed to twist too much which is not a good thing.

Nope, all good coming up to 2 1/2 years.

@motdaeng

Also, does the cable jack feel "slick" or somewhat rubbery. To me in your picture it looks like its a slick (and shiny) material which means it might be made of TPE vs more resilient TPU. TPE jacketing is commonly used on household appliances power cables due to low cost and flexibility.

1 hour ago, motdaeng said:

i have a 3-phase 11 kw / 16 a wall charger. it is not exposed to weather and has been used about once a week for a bit more than 1 year.

the cable insulation now looks visibly swollen or deformed in several spots. do you have the same issue with your wall charger cable?

The Hongi cable is not that bad, it's mid-tier, certainly a lot cheaper than the premium cables.

that cable is part of a cheaper sub-optimal mechanical design (loose internal tolerances), then combined with repetitive torsional stress during handling, caused the defects you have seen.

Unlike the Hongqi cable (which leaves empty pockets around the conductors wrapped in loose tape), premium cables use dense, pressure-extruded rubberized fillers (such as specialized EPDM or vulcanized elastomers) that are forced into every single crevice between the copper cores during manufacturing.

I have this MG Charger that is really high quality, and the cable has this rough texture that is not sleek and shiny like a typical PVC jacket. the BYD free charger also has similar cable quality, but it's thinner than the MG charger cable, even thou both are the same copper sizes.

⚠️ CAUTION ⚠️ Wwhile the outer jacket isn't torn, the internal geometry of the conductors is certainly compromised. This uneven bending can lead to localized microscopic fracturing of the fine copper strands over time (class 5 strands), increasing resistance and creating localized thermal hotspots. The cable should ideally be replaced, or at least monitored closely for heat buildup during a charging cycle.

my final recommendation to you: really change that cable or the full charger.

Edited June 4Jun 4 by brfsa2

20 minutes ago, Pib said:

@motdaeng

Also, does the cable jack feel "slick" or somewhat rubbery. To me in your picture it looks like its a slick (and shiny) material which means it might be made of TPE vs more resilient TPU. TPE jacketing is commonly used on household appliances power cables due to low cost and flexibility.

yes you got it right 100%

that Hongi cable is Linear TPU (Thermoplastic Polyurethane), for me it's the first time I ever see in use!

every charger I have used have strong cables.

Edited June 4Jun 4 by brfsa2

Another point to consider, 7kW chargers will have 6sqmm (3G6) , which means Fewer Cores = More Stability:

A 3G6 cable has only 3 large power conductors inside. Geometrically, three circles packed together form a perfect, naturally locked triangular nest. It is incredibly stable and highly resistant to twisting out of bounds.

This is from Gemini 3.5 Flash:

Under the European harmonized cable designation standards (specifically EN 50620 and IEC 62893), EV charging cable designations dictate the jacket material by law:

• H07BZ5-F (The standard EN50620 designation for the Hongqi class of cable): The Z5 explicitly stands for Polyurethane (TPU).

• H07EE-H (The alternative standard under norms like TÜV 2PfG 1908): The E explicitly stands for Thermoplastic Elastomer (TPE).

So, the Hongqi is definitively a TPU jacket.

Advice: Go for 7kW or 22kW chargers, avoid 11 kW with the thin copper wires.

7 and 22 kW will have 6sqmm wires that are quite fantastic cables, they are thick, heavy, and stiff.

Let’s see when it will arrive in Thailand

https://paultan.org/2026/06/05/byd-atto-3-facelift-in-malaysia-fwd-and-rwd-evo-up-to-313-ps-510-km-wltp-220-kw-dcfc-from-rm126k/

On 6/3/2026 at 9:48 AM, Pib said:

For you Ferrari exceptional customers out there, here's the official Thailand price for a Ferrari LUCE 100% EV after adding Thailand import duty, excise VAT, etc., taxes....just under 34 million baht. If I hadn't just bought a BYD SL7 AWD for 1.3 mil (about 4% the cost of a LUCE) I would probably be interested in booking a LUCE. Oh, wait a minute, I need to stop being delusional....I probably couldn't even afford a Ferrari booking fee.😆

U9 elite from byd, or yang? Their high end brand. World speed record 307mph. 0->60in 2.3 seconds.

51 minutes ago, marino28 said:

Let’s see when it will arrive in Thailand

https://paultan.org/2026/06/05/byd-atto-3-facelift-in-malaysia-fwd-and-rwd-evo-up-to-313-ps-510-km-wltp-220-kw-dcfc-from-rm126k/

the Atto 3 Evo will allow 220kW when low SOC, they also increased battery voltage from 400v to 500V or something like, this is not using the new blade 2.0 battery that is true 800V and can do 10-80 in 9 minutes.
the blade 2 battery, i'm sure will stay in china only for a long time.

Edited June 5Jun 5 by brfsa2

25 minutes ago, brfsa2 said:

the Atto 3 Evo will allow 220kW when low SOC, they also increased battery voltage from 400v to 500V or something like, this is not using the new blade 2.0 battery that is true 800V and can do 10-80 in 9 minutes.
the blase 2 battery, i'm sure will stay in china only for a long time.

I suspect you are correct as new rules for EV batteries kick in from July 1st 2026

Battery Cell Import Rule Extended with Local Focus: To support the ongoing transition to local battery manufacturing, the rule allowing imported battery cells to be counted towards local content requirements is extended by six months to June 30, 2026. However, from January 1, 2026, the maximum value from imported cells that can be counted will be cut to 10% of the EV's factory price. Participating applicants will have to provide a clear domestic sourcing plan.

https://www.boi.go.th/index.php?page=press_releases_detail&topic_id=138252&_module=news&from_page=press_releases2

28 minutes ago, brfsa2 said:

the Atto 3 Evo will allow 220kW when low SOC, they also increased battery voltage from 400v to 500V or something like, this is not using the new blade 2.0 battery that is true 800V and can do 10-80 in 9 minutes.
the blase 2 battery, i'm sure will stay in china only for a long time.

From what I have seen so far BYD will use the Blade 2 battery ( which has a smaller footprint and less weight) to achieve a similar range as before by reducing kw’s.

I would have preferred to have a similar size Blade 2 battery to increase range.

A vast majority of my charging is done from home so charging a few hours more overnight would not make any difference to me, plus i have an additional meter ( a TOU ) so benefit from cheap off peak rates.

2 hours ago, gargamon said:

U9 elite from byd, or yang? Their high end brand. World speed record 307mph. 0->60in 2.3 seconds.

Probably not available in Thailand yet.And they have a land cruiser/land rover type with an electric motor on each wheel. Wanna do a tank manouver in you SUV?

BYD’s Tank Mode (or Tank Turn) allows the vehicle to spin 360 degrees on its own axis. Available on the Yangwang U8 via BYD's e⁴ platform, it utilizes four independent electric motors to rotate the left and right wheels in opposite directions.