Bangkok Barry Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 6 hours ago, webfact said: When the case went cold police did nothing the navy man enlisted the help of social activist Paveena Hongsakul. 6 hours ago, webfact said: Wichian, 52, the boy's grandfather told the media that his family are very poor and had been unable to pay the compensation exploitation sought by the other family. The Thai tradition of seeking compensation is a disgrace. As usual in Thailand, although no financial harm has been done they want MONEY. And the police 'negotiate' it to get their cut. And the grandfather said... What did the parents say, if they haven't followed another Thai tradition of deserting their kid and at the same time surrendering their responsibility to teach right and wrong. Many here seem to have kids only as an insurance policy to be taken care of in old age. That might be understandable though, because the government does next to nothing for them. But there are consequences, aren't there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 6 hours ago, BritManToo said: Why hasn't she been arrested too? She had sex with a 14yo boy which is also against the law. A very good point, often overlooked. If it was consensual, as the lad claims, then she is just as guilty. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Nothing will happen here. I first had sex before I had experienced an erection, aged 11. Girl was 12. @ kinda screwed me up for a few years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony125 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 6 hours ago, BritManToo said: Why hasn't she been arrested too? She had sex with a 14yo boy which is also against the law. Because the law states that she is below the age to give consent. Therefore if a guy does have sex with her they are commting statutory rape.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony125 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 43 minutes ago, nickmondo said: bloody hell.........when i was 14, they would have had to arrest every boy in the school for groping or molesting a girl of the same age.......everyone did it........thats what happened back then in the 70's.......it was experimenting, learning.......and most of the girls seemed to like a bit of groping anyway........ Times change, you know the Metoo movement. I know in Boston when I was a kid guys ,especially around construction sites would whistle at cute girls walking by. Do that now and you can be arrested for assault. Hek I was an athlete kinda buff had nurses taking a lunch break outside Mass General Hospital who whistled at me when I walked my mom out to our car. Mom and I just laughed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted May 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 4, 2022 19 minutes ago, Tony125 said: Because the law states that she is below the age to give consent. Therefore if a guy does have sex with her they are commting statutory rape.. He was also below the age to give consent ....... stat rape works both ways. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedomnow Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 1 hour ago, nickmondo said: .......and most of the girls seemed to like a bit of groping anyway........ That's what you tell yourself.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cncltd1973 Posted May 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 4, 2022 this reads like casual sex between teenagers. if so, the girl's father should try to remember what he was doing at 14 years and if he should've gone to jail for it 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdey Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Kids. My Hairdresser's daughter got knocked up at 14. The boys parents agreed to take care of her and the child. Mother was fine about it. Two kids of 11 in the village kept running away and bonking so the families held a marriage ceremony so they could do what they wanted (in the eyes of the villages). Thailand is a very laid back society. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTB1977 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 So out of the 3 times she went to meet him, which time did she say no ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Tom Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 7 hours ago, RichardColeman said: Seems teenage sex is rife in this family Teenage sex is common throughout the world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 7 hours ago, BangkokReady said: Girls/women often aren't held responsible for sex. They are typically passive and it is the man who initiates and does most of the "grunt" work, so women are viewed sometimes as having sex done to them. Unless they choose to be promiscuous, then they are strong and independent and their past doesn't matter. Bit of a can of worms there. I had sex done to me last night. I'm slightly traumatized but it is what it is. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toscano Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 This is not an uncommon occurrence in Thailand . Further I believe it is not a crime in Thailand for a 14 year old girl and a 14 yr old boy to have sex . The fact that she came back to him a couple of times more suggests that it was consensual . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FriendlyFarang Posted May 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 4, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Toscano said: This is not an uncommon occurrence in Thailand . Further I believe it is not a crime in Thailand for a 14 year old girl and a 14 yr old boy to have sex . The fact that she came back to him a couple of times more suggests that it was consensual . Having sex with somebody under 15 is always considered rape under thai law, thus it's illegal. Of course it applies to both, so as pointed out by the other poster, if the boy is charged, the girl should be charged as well. Edited May 4, 2022 by FriendlyFarang 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike k Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 To the father the girl was a piece of meat to make money off of but when the boys family didn't have the money to pay for it they had the boy arrested 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kiwikeith Posted May 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 4, 2022 12 hours ago, BangkokReady said: Bit of a "he said, she said", unfortunately. He could have molested her, or she might have consented and lied when her dad found out and went crazy (father might even have made her lie). A bit weird that it was an ongoing thing and only ended when they went to the police. What prevented them from ending it before hand if it wasn't consensual? I thought the law was that underage consensual sex was legal between 2 underage. But molestation is not, it is rape. But this sounds like a consensual gone wrong and a money extraction aided by the boys in brown. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Monday Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, 2long said: Molested & sex aren't the same thing. What really happened, or is claimed to have happened? Many forum members (including myself) were up to all kinds of shenanigans at that age, with consensual girls of our own age. And at 12-14 the girls were more mature and the aggressive. I pleaded to parents not to be sent to summer camp. If not I would never have met there the utter tarts from private schools and "Christian" academies.???? Edited May 4, 2022 by Captain Monday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2long Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 6 hours ago, Tony125 said: Because the law states that she is below the age to give consent. Therefore if a guy does have sex with her they are commting statutory rape.. 'If a GUY..' or if another 'child of the same age!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Monday Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 1 hour ago, 2long said: 'If a GUY..' or if another 'child of the same age!? Appears to be no romeo juliette law in Thailand same some backward US states where teenagers "sexting" are kiddieporn offenders and all underage pregnancies are investigated as rape. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 17 hours ago, BritManToo said: He was also below the age to give consent ....... stat rape works both ways. it would work if it was the other way around, girl from poor family and boy from better off family, then they would say that she seduced him, she was promiscuous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adumbration Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 18 hours ago, FriendlyFarang said: Having sex with somebody under 15 is always considered rape under thai law, thus it's illegal. Of course it applies to both, so as pointed out by the other poster, if the boy is charged, the girl should be charged as well. Under Thai criminal law the offence of rape requires penetration. How exactly would a 14 year old girl penetrate the boy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, Adumbration said: Under Thai criminal law the offence of rape requires penetration. How exactly would a 14 year old girl penetrate the boy? "Penetration" can be achirved by either, the boy inititating the act or a female initiating the act, the result of "penetration" is achieved, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriendlyFarang Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Adumbration said: Under Thai criminal law the offence of rape requires penetration. How exactly would a 14 year old girl penetrate the boy? I just looked up the law: Quote Section 277. Rape – Girl Under 15 Whoever, has sexual intercourse with a girl not yet over fifteen years of age and not being his own wife, whether such girl shall consent or not, shall be punished with imprisonment of four to twenty years and fined of eight thousand to forty thousand Baht. [...] Quote Section 279. Penalty for Indecent Act with someone under 15 years old Whoever, commits an indecent act on a child not yet over fifteen years of age, whether such child shall consent or not, shall be punished with imprisonment not exceeding ten years or fined not exceeding twenty thousand Baht, or both. [...] Up to 20 years prison for the boy, up to 10 years prison for the girl. Edited May 5, 2022 by FriendlyFarang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adumbration Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 19 minutes ago, CharlieH said: "Penetration" can be achirved by either, the boy inititating the act or a female initiating the act, the result of "penetration" is achieved, No it cannot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adumbration Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 17 minutes ago, FriendlyFarang said: I just looked up the law: Up to 20 years prison for the boy, up to 10 years prison for the girl. Case would turn upon common law precedents not statutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adumbration Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 (edited) 16 hours ago, Mike k said: To the father the girl was a piece of meat to make money off of but when the boys family didn't have the money to pay for it they had the boy arrested Why did they not charge the boy with shop lifting? Edited May 5, 2022 by Adumbration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 37 minutes ago, Adumbration said: No it cannot. So if the female lowers herself onto him, penetration was not achieved ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adumbration Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 4 hours ago, CharlieH said: So if the female lowers herself onto him, penetration was not achieved ? No the girl did not penetrate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 27 minutes ago, Adumbration said: No the girl did not penetrate him. No one said her penetrating him. The girl can initiate her penetration by him. Just by siting on his penis. Penetration is achieved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomer6969 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 On 5/4/2022 at 3:26 PM, vandeventer said: How old were all of you when you had consenting sex? Be honest!!! I was 27, when I married my first wife, after a long series of rapes, according to those who handle or comment this sad case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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