how does a teenager get a job in thailand.

[yeahbutif]

How does a teenager get a job in Thailand? In the UK at 15 we left school and looked for a job.( no qualifications) And was more or less told by my mother to get a job and pay board and was near on a quarter of the money I got .

Any how the issue here Thailand. 

 It seems to me the mothers don’t push the there sons to get a job. (Girls seem less lazy and get jobs easy).  If I try to intervene I get the silent treatment, some time after lots of mentioning it she takes him to look for a job like big C she then say no jobs. Then nothing happens for months again till I mention it .she not pushing him at all...   I think him lazy and just want to play PC games all day now nearly 19? (She still thinks him her little boy. As we all know family comes first and we are at the bottom of the chain.

So is it a case of just grin and bear it, and it costing me the food and bills...if nothing happens soon he be 40 before I know it.

 So what’s the answer?

[Jotnar]

Just ask, apply for one, legal working age is 15 in Thailand.

 

@18, he's an adult in my world, though legally, it's 20 in Thailand.  He won't work at 18, then accept now, and get prepared to raise your grandkids ????

[OneMoreFarang]

I don't know how difficult this is but I guess it would be best if you find out what he likes to do. Computer games? Maybe motorcycles? Maybe music?

Maybe he can work in a game shop or motorcycle shop or something like that. And maybe he likes it and he becomes better in one subject and even an expert.

And there are different aspects like becoming a good mechanic or sales person or whatever.

 

Personally I always liked the work which I did. I never had a job were I counted the hours before I could leave. It's not surprising when he prefers to stay at home compared to a job which he doesn't like. So, he should find a job which he likes and maybe you can support him in that search.

[ivor bigun]

do what our son did ,go to university ,then get a job with a company to learn  and work hard and get on .

[Iamfalang]

If not working, stress education.   Start with a part time job.  Or seasonal job.    Offer gifts if they do this and that…….  Just to start the process.   
 

love is strange.   Push kids too much you might lose them.   Not enough, might lose them.    Treat them like a random person, you’ll lose them.   Gotta support them.    More conversation the better.   I wouldn’t worry if they are on the path to finish college.    Peers will pressure them.  It’s not the education you’re paying for…..the culture of kids who want to succeed.   Unfortunately, this isn’t America.   Anyhow……

[jaiyenyen]

My wife's two sons were exactly the same.

Even when they did get off their a55es and go for an interview, they would return home and then wait 2-3 weeks to see if the company contacted them again. My suggestion that they might call the company and find out if they were successful or not, fell on deaf ears. and when I suggested they apply for several jobs at the same time, everyone looked at me like I was some kind of idiot for making such a suggestion.

They were both around 25 before they got their first jobs.

[mtls2005]

29 minutes ago, yeahbutif said:

takes him to look for a job like big C she then say no jobs

Interesting that his mother needs to shepherd him around. Not unusual though.

 

A lot of the entry/sub-entry level jobs are for trainees/interns, who may still be in school, trade-school or "university".

 

What is his education level? Does he have any interests or hobbies? What are his friends doing for employment? Does your thai family have any connections, with someone who needs workers?

 

Maybe consider an incentive paid to him to find and maintain steady employment?

 

And limit internet/PC usage?

 

Marry him off, then he goes to live with his wife's family.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Lacessit]

Sons in Thailand are treated like gods by all the family, spoiled rotten. You don't count.

Either learn to live with it, or dump the mother in favor of one who only has girls.

IME the majority of teenage boys here would greatly benefit from a good kick up their backsides.

[Jotnar]

As 1 more states, take an interest in his future, as it's your future also.   See what his interests are, and you may be surprised he has a talent.  Lots of hobbies develop into jobs, possibly even self employed.

 

Change your attitude toward him, and have a serious 1 on 1, heart to heart talk with him.  Treat him like an equal, as that might be all the motivation he needs.

[EVENKEEL]

Seems when I hear "no jobs" that means he doesn't want the available jobs. Boys who don't go to university know what jobs will be available to them. Low paid brain numbing or low paid hard work jobs are the only alternative. 

 

Be prepared to cough up some money when a job is offered.

[VocalNeal]

1 hour ago, yeahbutif said:

So is it a case of just grin and bear it, and it costing me the food and bills...if nothing happens soon he be 40 before I know it.

Have you explained to him that you had to do the same thing and would he like to talk to you and would he like your help? 

I suspect he has no idea of the possibilities? 

 

1 hour ago, yeahbutif said:

she takes him to look for a job like big C she then say no jobs.

I suspect a boy maybe happier at HomePro/Global etc. . He really has no idea what the possibilities are?

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, yeahbutif said:

So what’s the answer?

One of you leaves ........... give her the choice which one, but mean it.

[CharlieH]

Its hard to know as there is little detail on how long you have been in the boys life and to what extent you have played an actual role in his life.

 

My suggestion without that info, talk to the mother and apply pressure and reasoning to her, and let her deal with it.

If you get heavy handed with him and Mother isnt standing with you, you wont get anywhere.

 

 

[Kwasaki]

Sounds like mother taking him to try and get jobs means he doesn't want a job. 

If his getting money from his mum and meeting up with other mates why bother with a job. 

[Chris.B]

He should get on his motorbike and start knocking on doors.

 

[proton]

Job in the Police force would be ideal, just have to stump up the entry requirement ????

[VocalNeal]

Most responders have forgotten what it was like to be 19? Not a clue what the world is about and what the possibilities are.

[sammieuk1]

Cut his money supply and internet off should get him moving ????

[sanuk711]

I know someone who paid the wages for 3 months--- it was only 150 a day boy 17, The mother approached motor bike shop-- the boy didn't know, the owner was happy to have a Go-fa around making the Tea & helping out, for nothing-lots of jobs take more then 2 hands---their hoping he might be kept on after on-- or actually get a taste for making money.

[moogradod]

I have no son, but as we decided to take my stepdaughter to live with us in Pattaya (at this time 19 years old, did not finish Matayon 6 because of reasons I leave up to your imagination) we thought it was a good idea to get her a job first and then look from there.

 

Not knowing where to start she just walked into supermarkets and an convenient store to apply.

 

My surprizes:

One: It is extremely easy to get just SOME job. You need one, maximum two days and you can start.

 

Two: Unfortunately the "conditions" offered orally were nothing short of slavery like. Actually hard to imagine that anyone would want to work under these conditions and compensation and benefits (there are none - on the contrary you were asked to buy the work clothes by yourself (just one example)). I have to laugh at myself now that I know I have approached this with "Western" ideas but have been catapulted back to the mediaval age or to the time of slavery. Really not far from it !

 

Three: When I asked her about a working contract where all the conditions are documented and mutually signed she said there was none. For sure some of the conditions were even against current work law I presume. So it was working at the mercy of the employer for a salary not worth mentioning (The whole exercise was not because of money but rather an educational measure)

 

Four: On a positive note, cheap condos were available in abundance in the vicinity where such cheap job opportunities exist. The very cheaper ones (just above THB 2'000/month) are terrible rat holes but in the region of 5'000.-- it gets at least acceptable. It took my wife 1 day to find an accomodation.

 

I bought her a nice motorcycle (N-Max) then for transport, but not before she made the driving license - a process which was nothing short of ridiculous. First she could not understand why I insisted on her having one at all. Not that she could drive after that (same for cars by the way) but to satisfy control of the police which is different from the countryside (there is none).

 

She really tried hard to succeed at the job, but stories I heard were hair raising. It was not an acceptable working environment by any means - and this explains why it is so easy to get a job. The employers are obviously not interested in constituting a longer work relationship. Just use the work force during the phase of enthusiasm for butter and bread conditions and without work contract and then change the employee again if they want. Anyway they do not invest anything in you.

 

Conclusion: There is no independent working life possible if you enter the working world without a VERY high (by Thai standards at least) education.

 

So we sent her to a private school again. All in all at least 5 years until some sort of Master Degree plus University afterwards. At least she learns languages as well (English, Chinese).

 

To go get a good (good heart plus ATM) Western husband for her would really be an alternative, but you know the difficulties. She is a bit heavy but really outstanding beautiful. And so she has already a Thai boyfriend, with car and working in a lower managerial position (although barely enough money to support a family in the way I would prefer to see).

 

We have to wait some years more and then something will cristallize. After all it is up to her ! I more and more come to the conclusion that if you do not have a very high education (University degree, preferably having studied abroad as well) and then take on a job as a doctor, engineer etc. the only way to make a good living here is to open your own business (If you really know at least what a Business Plan is and have knowledge in the services you offer, creativity, maybe connections).

[JeffersLos]

3 hours ago, yeahbutif said:

So what’s the answer?

Get a new girlfriend. 

 

One that doesn't have a kid. 

 

They're using you as a doormat. 

[OneMoreFarang]

2 hours ago, Iamfalang said:

Unfortunately, this isn’t America.

Unfortunately, this isn’t America.

[The Hammer2021]

2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I don't know how difficult this is but I guess it would be best if you find out what he likes to do. Computer games? Maybe motorcycles? Maybe music?

Maybe he can work in a game shop or motorcycle shop or something like that. And maybe he likes it and he becomes better in one subject and even an expert.

And there are different aspects like becoming a good mechanic or sales person or whatever.

 

Personally I always liked the work which I did. I never had a job were I counted the hours before I could leave. It's not surprising when he prefers to stay at home compared to a job which he doesn't like. So, he should find a job which he likes and maybe you can support him in that search.

We work to make money to live. Enjoying your work is a rare luxury. That's what work means.

Get up early, go to a place that boring,  be surrounded by people you don't like, have a boss who tells you what to do, leave the place every day dreading your return the next  day. After one month get low wages but enough to eat and drink. Dream of a better job which only come via education and or luck or a natural specialist talent.

99% of jobs are śhìť.

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said:

Boys who don't go to university know what jobs will be available to them. Low paid brain numbing or low paid hard work jobs are the only alternative. 

I don't think that is true.

I.e. my AC service guy has his own company. I guess he started in another company, got better, and opened his own company. And that is the same for plumbers, electricians and many other jobs which don't require an university degree.

 

And I think sometimes it is just important to start some work. I.e. when I was in school I had a job as a help in an electrician company. I liked that I earned my own money. And I learned that if I want something then I better work, and maybe work OT, to make money. And if I am good at certain work then I can charge more money.

I know lots of people in Thailand get minimum salary, which is not much. But we all have to start somewhere. Learn, get better, earn more, ... 

[Kwasaki]

7 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

We work to make money to live. Enjoying your work is a rare luxury. That's what work means.

Get up early, go to a place that boring,  be surrounded by people you don't like, have a boss who tells you what to do, leave the place every day dreading your return the next  day. After one month get low wages but enough to eat and drink. Dream of a better job which only come via education and or luck or a natural specialist talent.

99% of jobs are śhìť.

All my mob in Thailand are self employed.

[moogradod]

4 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

We work to make money to live. Enjoying your work is a rare luxury. That's what work means.

Get up early, go to a place that boring,  be surrounded by people you don't like, have a boss who tells you what to do, leave the place every day dreading your return the next  day. After one month get low wages but enough to eat and drink. Dream of a better job which only come via education and or luck or a natural specialist talent.

99% of jobs are śhìť.

I believe you can only be exeptional at something you really like. Unfortunately it takes time to determine what that is - and at that time you may have already embarked on a specific education. Would I have known what I know now I would have ended up highly successfully now. Without bragging I am actually quite sure about this. Some mistakes of my own on the way have ruined the best opportunities I had.

 

But you are right, to have luck as well does not hurt. I have as well had some business ideas long before others became multimillionaires with the same idea (example: I thought of online-casinos long before there was internet) but then missed the opportunity to implement a business just because I did not saw the opportunity when it opened up. Same with some other projects.

[moogradod]

12 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

All my mob in Thailand are self employed.

Bingo. That confirms my theory.

[The Hammer2021]

2 minutes ago, moogradod said:

I believe you can only be exeptional at something you really like. Unfortunately it takes time to determine what that is - and at that time you may have already embarked on a specific education. Would I have known what I know now I would have ended up highly successfully now. Without bragging I am actually quite sure about this. Some mistakes of my own on the way have ruined the best opportunities I had.

 

But you are right, to have luck as well does not hurt. I have as well had some business ideas long before others became multimillionaires with the same idea (example: I thought of online-casinos long before there was internet) but then missed the opportunity to implement a business just because I did not saw the opportunity when it opened up. Same with some other projects.

We work to survive. We start in the West between the ages of 16 to 21. Most jobs are mundane and tedious and often soul destroying

[VocalNeal]

There are lots of little known places.

 

http://www.mmtc.ac.th/

[The Hammer2021]

5 minutes ago, moogradod said:

Bingo. That confirms my theory.

Self employment in Thailand is just a step  away  from unemployment.  It's not a real business with a business plan, lines of credit  from the bank, a health plan or tax scheme. Its just scraping  by living hand to mouth with no security.