Roof Gutters

[33 RPM]

Recently installed Zinc roof gutters about 4 months ago

they were "painted "

well someone attempted to spray some paint in their general direction

they were NOT cleaned, and the oily film was just painted over

Well its all coming off, in big and  little chunks and the hangers are mostly devoid of paint

The builder will correct the problem.

is there guttering that is prepainted properly,

or even better, colourbond guttering

available in Thailand.

Thanks.

[Kinnock]

I went with white plastic guttering.  Supposed to be UV resistant, but only time will tell.

 

Just going through their second monsoon - have spotted a few leaks at joints. ????

[GreasyFingers]

It appears that they do not have the Al gutters here. We put in the brown PVC and no real problems after 3 years. The trouble we had was that the builder had never installed gutters before so did not get the slope or the overhang from the metallic roof right.

If you go that way I would suggest you use silicone at the joints instead of glue so it is easier to fix any problems.

[KhunLA]

Don't know about painted.  We went with SS, as 1 of 2 options, the other was aluminum.

 

 

[Dazinoz]

What are "roof gutters"? Don't see too many them here in Thailand.

[Orinoco]

Cant see the point in them , as tropical rain soon overwhelms the gutter, pipes, and drains. i do understand if you just need to divert water away from a particular area. but other than that why bother.

 

 

 

[Dante99]

Before painting zinc gutters, clean then etch by wiping with vinegar then the paint has a rough surface to bond to.

11 hours ago, KhunLA said:

We went with SS

SS is stainless steel??? not painted? Shinny silver house trim?

[phetphet]

44 minutes ago, Orinoco said:

Cant see the point in them , as tropical rain soon overwhelms the gutter, pipes, and drains. i do understand if you just need to divert water away from a particular area. but other than that why bother.

 

 

 

Could be for rainwater collection for drinking I suppose.

Edited May 21, 2022 by phetphet

[brianthainess]

Thai galvanize/zinc should be painted with silver oil based enamel gloss  out of a tin, first coat will etch it, then apply a second coat. 

Edited May 21, 2022 by brianthainess
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[KhunLA]

36 minutes ago, Dante99 said:

Before painting zinc gutters, clean then etch by wiping with vinegar then the paint has a rough surface to bond to.

SS is stainless steel??? not painted? Shinny silver house trim?

Yes

[Presnock]

we had gutters installed 6+ years ago.  The only problem we have had is that too many installers do not have the proper joints made for joining with ends, long gutters about 3 meters per section.  After a short period they begin to leak at all joints.  Went to local stores and got black tar to paint those joints but that only lasts a short time too probably because the gutters get so warm.  I finally found a better sealer through Lazada - "FLEX & SEAL", not overly expensive and lasts several years - they have both spray to get to difficult areas and canned to be spread with a paint brush.  

 

[giddyup]

55 minutes ago, Orinoco said:

Cant see the point in them , as tropical rain soon overwhelms the gutter, pipes, and drains. i do understand if you just need to divert water away from a particular area. but other than that why bother.

 

 

 

We have the plastic gutters installed and in 8 years have yet to see them overflow even with the heaviest downpour.

[MadMuhammad]

53 minutes ago, Dante99 said:

Before painting zinc gutters, clean then etch by wiping with vinegar then the paint has a rough surface to bond to.

SS is stainless steel??? not painted? Shinny silver house trim?

Stainless gutters are a nice look IMO 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 21, 2022 by MadMuhammad

[CharlieH]

Got the same , sprayed with primer, then top coat, no problem so far.

[Orinoco]

22 minutes ago, MadMuhammad said:

Stainless gutters are a nice look IMO 

 

 

 

 

Think i would have spent the money on the correct garage length to fit a car,

rather than nice shinny gutters. 

[KhunLA]

1 hour ago, MadMuhammad said:

Stainless gutters are a nice look IMO 

 

 

 

 

Nice job.  Looks good, and I guess I could always give it a coat of paint if I decide it bothers me, per the shiny comment.  Going native with the storage tanks, so the gutters will be the least distracting.

 

Need to paint the tanks, haven't decided.  Maybe something for some comic relief.

Edited May 21, 2022 by KhunLA

[sometimewoodworker]

6 minutes ago, Orinoco said:

Think i would have spent the money on the correct garage length to fit a car,

rather than nice shinny gutters. 

The carport is actually big enough (just) if the junk behind the car were actually stored in a different place

[sometimewoodworker]

1 hour ago, Orinoco said:

Cant see the point in them , as tropical rain soon overwhelms the gutter, pipes, and drains. i do understand if you just need to divert water away from a particular area. but other than that why bother.

Because the majority of people in the villages don’t like to waste money by throwing away a valuable resource.

[Dante99]

37 minutes ago, MadMuhammad said:

Stainless gutters are a nice look IMO 

It appears that that gutter has been painted or coated.  It is not just shinny stainless which to me would not be a look on a house that appeal.

[TigerandDog]

We used this company for our roof gutters.  SEAMLESS ROOF & GUTTER (seamlessroof-gutter.com)   They only seem to be in 1 location, viz. Chiang Mai. So that might be an issue depending on where you're located.

[bunnydrops]

45 minutes ago, MadMuhammad said:

Stainless gutters are a nice look IMO 

 

 

 

 

Nice plastic down spouts????

[bunnydrops]

6 minutes ago, TigerandDog said:

We used this company for our roof gutters.  SEAMLESS ROOF & GUTTER (seamlessroof-gutter.com)   They only seem to be in 1 location, viz. Chiang Mai. So that might be an issue depending on where you're located.

I have always thought it was odd that the companies that sell metal roofing don't have continuous gutter machines. Some one could make a killing with one of those.

[MadMuhammad]

4 minutes ago, bunnydrops said:

Nice plastic down spouts????

Yeah thanks ???? they were gonna be temporary but now I’m just gonna paint them at some stage haha

[Orinoco]

12 minutes ago, sometimewoodworker said:

Because the majority of people in the villages don’t like to waste money by throwing away a valuable resource.

what so most Thai people spend maybe 10,000 baht for gutters so they can keep 1 baht of water. im sure it pays for it's self in time 

But i do understand the bit of blue 4'' pipe, cut in half directing water into the big clay pot.

 

[33 RPM]

Thanks for all the replies, i knew it had not been prepared properly as i watched some of the antics on show

it seems its either got to be re-done, that is if they can strip off  what remains , clean it, prime it and repaint

or ditch the colour and have plain, id rather have colour.

or the boring colour option of PVC, brown or white ??

and yes i realise there will be maintenance required, i just sort of hoped that the job initially might have been of a better standard but i should have known.....

as for the reason, i have a large area of grass, and use well water.

i dont know how long it will last, and im one for reusing where possible and to see tens of thousands of litres wasted, is a shame

i have plenty of water tanks , for storage 20,000 in total

[MadMuhammad]

35 minutes ago, Orinoco said:

Think i would have spent the money on the correct garage length to fit a car,

rather than nice shinny gutters. 

The car fits fine, I just leave a lot of room between it and my work space for tool access and convenience  at the moment. 
you should have seen before I closed it in ????

 

 

 

Edited May 21, 2022 by MadMuhammad

[Orinoco]

8 minutes ago, MadMuhammad said:

The car fits fine, I just leave a lot of room between it and my work space for tool access and convenience  at the moment. 
you should have seen before I closed it in ????

Would have been impressed if you had some Analog porn an on the walls and a beer fridge.

 

[MadMuhammad]

17 minutes ago, 33 RPM said:

Thanks for all the replies, i knew it had not been prepared properly as i watched some of the antics on show

it seems its either got to be re-done, that is if they can strip off  what remains , clean it, prime it and repaint

or ditch the colour and have plain, id rather have colour.

or the boring colour option of PVC, brown or white ??

and yes i realise there will be maintenance required, i just sort of hoped that the job initially might have been of a better standard but i should have known.....

as for the reason, i have a large area of grass, and use well water.

i dont know how long it will last, and im one for reusing where possible and to see tens of thousands of litres wasted, is a shame

i have plenty of water tanks , for storage 20,000 in total

Sadly with a majority of things here (99.9%?) if you want anything done to reasonable standard that lasts longer than it takes for them to walk off site we just have to do it ourselves. 
I’ve stopped complaining and letting it bother me now, I just see reality and attempt everything myself

 

I have bore water as well and everyone said I was crazy spending the money to connect the gov water as a back up, I guess we’ll see. Pays to plan ahead 

Edited May 21, 2022 by MadMuhammad

[4MyEgo]

14 hours ago, 33 RPM said:

colourbond guttering

available in Thailand.

Do yourself a favor, either now or in the future. Go to DoHome and purchase the white UV-PVC gutters and downpipes, have had ours on for 6 years, no issues.

 

That said, spotted a leak coming from the plasterboard ceiling under the front porch, I opened up a bigger section to see what gives and I noticed an aluminium, zinc, call it what you will gutter leaking, I basically lost it, called the Mrs in and said W-T-F- is this, she called the builder, his excuse was, had to make special gutter for the runoff of the 2 other gutters on either side to take the volume of the water.

 

The leaking gutter is deep, consider it a box gutter, his excuse was justifiable, but I would have preferred to have been notified and had the option to purchase a deeper PVC gutter if they were available at the time, so I said I want it replaced with a PVC one, ok, no problem, buy one and I will install it, but will have to make adjustments to accommodate, and am busy at the moment, three months later, still waiting, that said, he is good for it, as we know it takes a long time to get him away from all of his other work which is backlogged, and the leak drops slowly into a big bucket, and it will eventually have it changed to PVC. 

 

Edited May 21, 2022 by 4MyEgo

[KhunLA]

2 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

still waiting, that said, he is good for it, as we know it takes a long time to get him away from all of his other work which is backlogged, but will eventually have it changed to PVC. 

Right after rainy season is over ...