Harris calls for 'assault weapons ban' in wake of mass shootings; Biden arrives in Uvalde

[onthedarkside]

 

The vice president made the gun control remarks after speaking at the funeral of an 86-year-old woman killed in the Buffalo shooting

 

Vice President Kamala Harris called for a ban on "assault weapons" on Saturday after she spoke at the funeral of a woman killed in the Buffalo, New York grocery store mass shooting earlier this month. 

 

She called the firearm a "weapon of war" that has "no place in civil society."

 

"We are not sitting around waiting to figure out what the solution looks like. You know, we're not looking for a vaccine. We know what works on this," she told reporters outside of Air Force Two at the Buffalo Niagara International Airport, referring to the series of mass shootings that have plagued the U.S. "Let's have an assault weapons ban."

 

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-assault-weapons-ban-uvalde-buffalo-mass-shootings

 

 

[onthedarkside]

Biden arrives in Uvalde to meet families of victims from devastating school shooting

(CNN) President Joe Biden on Sunday faces the grimly familiar task of comforting families after another mass shooting, this time at an elementary school in Texas, as a weary nation grapples with an endless spate of gun violence.

 

Biden and first lady Jill Biden arrived mid-morning Sunday in Uvalde, Texas, where a gunman killed 19 students and two teachers last week. Their armored black limousine arrived to a makeshift memorial outside Robb Elementary School around 11:15 a.m. Central Time, pulling to a stop next to the sea of flowers, stuffed animals and photos that has grown since the day of the massacre.

 

The first lady carried a large bouquet of white roses to place in front of the brick Robb Elementary School sign. The Bidens, both dressed in somber black, stood quietly for a moment and the President made a sign of the cross.

 

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https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/29/politics/joe-biden-uvalde-texas-visit/index.html

 

[ozimoron]

US Senator Dianne Feinstein introduced federal legislation earlier this month — less than a week before the Uvalde shooting — that would raise the minimum age to purchase assault weapons to 21 from 18; the California Democrat said in a statement that it was in response to a shooting that killed 10 people at a Buffalo supermarket. That gunman also was 18 years old

 

https://www.crikey.com.au/2022/05/27/texas-assault-rifles-uvalde-shooting/

[wombat]

#NB...they aint assault weapons...they aint got a chrome bore.

the one common denominator for all these psychos is the need for them to post macho pics of them with their weapons on social media's.
tweak social media algorithm to recognise guns and to red flag them with enforcement being informed so they can go round and have a chat and a confiscation if deemed suspect.
i think it would be that easy.

[wombat]

guns don't kill people ...people kill people.
a bullet killed JFK...no one blamed the bullet.

 

[spidermike007]

It is about time this exceptionally weak VP, did something. Anything, but remain in hiding. I did not expect much from her, but no way I expected this little. She is obviously in way over her head. 

[Purdey]

Interesting that Biden went to Uvalde but Trump went to the NRA convention. 

[Bluespunk]

1 hour ago, wombat said:

guns don't kill people ...people kill people.
a bullet killed JFK...no one blamed the bullet.

 

I think you'll find most deaths in gun related crime are because guns do kill people...

[ozimoron]

52 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

I think you'll find most deaths in gun related crime are because guns do kill people...

They don't. People kill people, guns make it easier.

[Bluespunk]

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

They don't. People kill people, guns make it easier.

No, guns operated by people kill people.

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, Bluespunk said:

No, guns operated by people kill people.

While that's self evidently true, that talking point plays into the hands of the gun lobby who like to point out that any blunt, sharp, soft, hard object of any description can kill people so guns shouldn't be blamed. People would simply kill less people but for the use of guns optimised for killing people rather than sport or hunting.

[Bluespunk]

39 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

While that's self evidently true, that talking point plays into the hands of the gun lobby who like to point out that any blunt, sharp, soft, hard object of any description can kill people so guns shouldn't be blamed. People would simply kill less people but for the use of guns optimised for killing people rather than sport or hunting.

The gun lobby will always come up with slimy arguments in their desperate attempts to deny guns kill people. 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, Purdey said:

Interesting that Biden went to Uvalde but Trump went to the NRA convention. 

At which guns were banned during his appearance.

[ozimoron]

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

At which guns were banned during his appearance.

The coward thinks it's fine for other people to have guns everywhere but when it comes time to walk the walk... not so much.

[Chomper Higgot]

Let’s take the gun lobby at its word, ‘guns don’t kill people, people kill people’ and latterly ‘mental illness is the cause of gun violence’.

 

If these two statements are true, why the objection to background checks?

 

Why the objection to denying gun ownership to people with a record of violence?

 

Why the objections to denying gun ownership to people suffering mental illness?

 

 

[SunnyinBangrak]

52 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

At which guns were banned during his appearance.

 

48 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

The coward thinks it's fine for other people to have guns everywhere but when it comes time to walk the walk... not so much.

So Trump goes to the NRA convention where apparently guns are banned, but Biden goes with a platoon of armed to the gills secret service agents, armed drones and choppers on standby and generally enough artillery to overtake a small country to deliver his message that guns are bad. And you say this shows Trump(who I must point out, is not currently POTUS) is the hypocrite?? Genuinely confused by the illogical argument being floated.

[Chomper Higgot]

10 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

 

So Trump goes to the NRA convention where apparently guns are banned, but Biden goes with a platoon of armed to the gills secret service agents, armed drones and choppers on standby and generally enough artillery to overtake a small country to deliver his message that guns are bad. And you say this shows Trump(who I must point out, is not currently POTUS) is the hypocrite?? Genuinely confused by the illogical argument being floated.

False equivalence.

 

Trump was speaking at the NRA event, an organization that promotes guns and opposes gun controls.

 

Except of course when Trump is speaking.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

19 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Biden goes with a platoon of armed to the gills secret service agents, armed drones and choppers on standby and generally enough artillery to overtake a small country to deliver his message that guns are bad.

 

I think you know full well that the heavy arms cover is standard procedure when a U.S. president, ANY president, goes out in public. Think they learned their lesson when JFK was assassinated, Ronald Reagan was shot, and the same was tried against Gerald Ford.

 

Also, I think it's pretty safe to assume that the armed Secret Service detail and local police who participate in protecting the president are not armed lunatics who are mentally disturbed or seeking to violently overthrow the U.S. government.

 

The Secret Service and police have a darned good reason to be armed in that kind of situation.  The lunatics and insurrectionists, not so much.

 

[digger70]

5 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

I think you'll find most deaths in gun related crime are because guns do kill people...

Same old argument all the time . It's the people that Use the gun are the Killers . One can say that for many tools , Knives and whatever people can pick to Kill people including Cars,Tanks.

[ozimoron]

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

 

So Trump goes to the NRA convention where apparently guns are banned, but Biden goes with a platoon of armed to the gills secret service agents, armed drones and choppers on standby and generally enough artillery to overtake a small country to deliver his message that guns are bad. And you say this shows Trump(who I must point out, is not currently POTUS) is the hypocrite?? Genuinely confused by the illogical argument being floated.

You do realise that Trump has a platoon of armed to the gills security guards everywhere he goes for life paid for by the government?

[Bluespunk]

7 minutes ago, digger70 said:

Same old argument all the time . It's the people that Use the gun are the Killers . One can say that for many tools , Knives and whatever people can pick to Kill people including Cars,Tanks.

Nonetheless...guns do kill people.

[digger70]

Just now, Bluespunk said:

Nonetheless...guns do kill people.

You say Yes, I say No. End off rant.

[Bluespunk]

8 minutes ago, digger70 said:

You say Yes, I say No. End off rant.

Not sure who is ranting, but guns are undeniably the cause of gun related deaths.

[Chomper Higgot]

49 minutes ago, digger70 said:

You say Yes, I say No. End off rant.

Oddly, when guns aren’t widely available (UK and Australia being examples), mass murders are far less common.

[SunnyinBangrak]

12 hours ago, ozimoron said:

You do realise that Trump has a platoon of armed to the gills security guards everywhere he goes for life paid for by the government?

And Trump is trying to ban the common folk from having weapons to protect themselves and their families while being protected by a gang of armed to the teeth agents? No, no he is not. Trump, as always, is consistent and not a hypocrite. 

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

And Trump is trying to ban the common folk from having weapons to protect themselves and their families while being protected by a gang of armed to the teeth agents? No, no he is not. Trump, as always, is consistent and not a hypocrite. 

Politicians  need protection because there's probably some loony who wants to kill them , high profile people need protection . 

  If none of the public had guns, then no one would need guns .

Its quite understandable that Trump wants to ban weapons and also have an armed guard himself , because the normal guy in the street isnt going to get assassinated by a loony

[Credo]

9 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

And Trump is trying to ban the common folk from having weapons to protect themselves and their families while being protected by a gang of armed to the teeth agents? No, no he is not. Trump, as always, is consistent and not a hypocrite. 

He's not a hypocrite?   After the Parkland school shooting, this is what he said:

 

‘Take the guns first. Go through due process second, I like taking the guns early,’

 

Here's the full quote:

 

“Or, Mike, take the firearms first and then go to court, because that’s another system. Because a lot of times, by the time you go to court, it takes so long to go to court, to get the due process procedures. I like taking the guns early. Like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida, he had a lot of firearms – they saw everything – to go to court would have taken a long time, so you could do exactly what you’re saying, but take the guns first, go through due process second.”

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/10/14/fact-check-trump-made-comment-taking-guns-without-due-process/6070319001/

 

[SunnyinBangrak]

6 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Its quite understandable that Trump wants to ban weapons and also have an armed guard himself

When did Trump want to ban weapons? He might want some restrictions of the more extreme weapons but nowhere did I see he is using the school shooting as an excuse to fulfil political aims. I trust Trump and Trump's judgement totally.

[Mac Mickmanus]

7 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

When did Trump want to ban weapons? He might want some restrictions of the more extreme weapons but nowhere did I see he is using the school shooting as an excuse to fulfil political aims. I trust Trump and Trump's judgement totally.

You will have to ask the poster whom I replied to , as I dont know

[LarrySR]

20 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

 

So Trump goes to the NRA convention where apparently guns are banned, but Biden goes with a platoon of armed to the gills secret service agents, armed drones and choppers on standby and generally enough artillery to overtake a small country to deliver his message that guns are bad. And you say this shows Trump(who I must point out, is not currently POTUS) is the hypocrite?? Genuinely confused by the illogical argument being floated.

Trump (the twice impeached failed president/imbecile/national embarrassment) also has an army of heavily armed secret service guarding him.