PrikPot Sparks Thailand’s Online Cannabis Market

[KhunLA]

4 minutes ago, cleopatra2 said:

 The only indication it was an advertisement required the post to be read.

Read that back to yourself .... 

[cleopatra2]

9 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I don't see any deceit, prices clearly advertised at 700bht/gm (-10% discount to AN members).

No more expensive than any other of the 'official' shops as far as I can see.

The deciet is the manner in which the advertisement was placed. 

All other advertisements are prefixed with a blue legend stating advertorial. 

This post displayed no indication of if being an advertisement from a sponsor. 

It was placed by webfact as a news item when the fact remains it was an adverorial.

[KhunLA]

Happiness depends on life's choices ... as always UP2U

Free delivery & 10 % off  ..... or ..... ????

[starky]

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

Should we really be talking about the competition of one vendor, on a thread pretty much as a heads up to their site & service.

 

If this was a classified ad for someone selling a vehicle, would you all be chiming in and pointing out the same car is being sold by this guy, for a better price.   Especially since we probably wouldn't know the exact quality of the other product.

 

I personally find the negative comments extremely rude.  And I'm not even a buyer of said products, from anyone.   Just enjoy playing devil's advocate, as I love when folks become self employed & independent of others.

 

Of course there's people selling less expensive, though customer service may be lacking or not.   Along with folks selling possibly, probably, the same, and more expensive, which I've notice (700-1100) for about the exact same offered by PP for 700.

 

It's called shopping.  As always UP2U

Who are you the asean sheriff? I can post however I see fit within forum rules. Further to that I have made zero negative statements beyond that in my opinion I find their product to be expensive. Not negative a statement of fact. 

  Prikpot has no monopoly on this product and if the choose to post in an open thread it is there to be commented on. If they don't want that they could just pay for advertising space. And of course if someone was selling a car on this forum and I knew someone was selling it cheaper I would let the forum know I would expect the same. That's the point to share information that makes things better, easier, cheaper for other forum members.

  

[BritManToo]

27 minutes ago, cleopatra2 said:

The deciet is the manner in which the advertisement was placed. 

All other advertisements are prefixed with a blue legend stating advertorial. 

This post displayed no indication of if being an advertisement from a sponsor. 

It was placed by webfact as a news item when the fact remains it was an adverorial.

You can't sell anything on AN unless it's in the classified section, or you're a sponsor.

How long have you been a member that you haven't noticed that?

[CrunchWrapSupreme]

Hey PrikPot and other weed enthusiasts, I'm intrigued but afraid I don't know much about it.

 

How's the ganja for high blood pressure? The stuff the local hospital's been giving the missus has been messing her up. She's tired all the time, wants to sleep early. Would weed fix it? Which kind?

[BritManToo]

2 minutes ago, CrunchWrapSupreme said:

She's tired all the time, wants to sleep early. Would weed fix it? Which kind?

All weed makes me want to sleep, would suggest she tries legal amphetamines to wake her up (not YaBaa or YaIce).

[KhunLA]

5 minutes ago, starky said:

Who are you the asean sheriff? I can post however I see fit within forum rules. Further to that I have made zero negative statements beyond that in my opinion I find their product to be expensive. Not negative a statement of fact.   

I obviously was raised differently, with a different set of 'business related' ethics / opinions.

 

Unless a scam, fairly obvious PP isn't, then I'd feel no need to advise folks to shop elsewhere.  As stated, I thought rude.  

 

Most intelligent 'shoppers' know any product can be purchased for more or less from different vendors. 

 

Quality or customer services opinions always welcomed.  The rest of non-positive postings, I felt as inappropriate, no more, no less.  Just my expressed opinion, which I also have the right to express.

 

Personally, I would have locked the thread to comments after posting.  Anyone interested, actually interested, instead of knocking said vendor, would simply contact them with queries.

 

As always, negative comments need to be taken with a grain of salt, possible bias due to a vested interest elsewhere .... Just a thought.

 

Lesson learned, and added to those 'growing pains'.

[cleopatra2]

7 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

You can't sell anything on AN unless it's in the classified section, or you'r a sponsor.

How long have you been a member that you haven't noticed that?

The OP makes no mention or indication that Prikpot is a sponsor or is advdrtising.

The original post tries to remove any indication of its relationship with Prikpot.

The original post is written to give a prikpot a favourable impression whilst failing to mention that prikpot is sponsoring AN.

[BritManToo]

8 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Personally, I would have locked the thread to comments after posting.  Anyone interested, actually interested, instead of knocking said vendor, would simply contact them with queries.

Personally, I would have banned the silly posters and kept the thread open.

I get slammed for my 'how to guides' from people that clearly don't know anything.

I'm lucky, I know how to use the ignore' button.

[daveAustin]

3 hours ago, Issanman said:

They advertise same day shipping.

I ordered two days ago. Order is still showing as "processing".  

Not really a good way to start out.

Unimpressed, so far.

Have to order before 1pm for same day shipping. Bearing in mind it’ll also show as Processing after it’s been picked up by the shipper—you would have received an email at that point with tracking link. Having said that it does seem a bit tardy, though no biggie at this point as expect they’re swamped. 

[starky]

24 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

I obviously was raised differently, with a different set of 'business related' ethics / opinions.

 

Unless a scam, fairly obvious PP isn't, then I'd feel no need to advise folks to shop elsewhere.  As stated, I thought rude.  

 

Most intelligent 'shoppers' know any product can be purchased for more or less from different vendors. 

 

Quality or customer services opinions always welcomed.  The rest of non-positive postings, I felt as inappropriate, no more, no less.  Just my expressed opinion, which I also have the right to express.

 

Personally, I would have locked the thread to comments after posting.  Anyone interested, actually interested, instead of knocking said vendor, would simply contact them with queries.

 

As always, negative comments need to be taken with a grain of salt, possible bias due to a vested interest elsewhere .... Just a thought.

 

Lesson learned, and added to those 'growing pains'.

Yep and I am not limiting your right to your opinion, for someone who was raised so well and is so intelligent maybe you could extend me the same courtesy.

[PrikPot]

5 hours ago, Issanman said:

They advertise same day shipping.

I ordered two days ago. Order is still showing as "processing".  

Not really a good way to start out.

Unimpressed, so far.

 

We normally ship same day if you order before 1pm. The last few days have been extreme, and we literally been working day and night to get all the orders out. But from today we are up to speed and back to normal shipping times. We regret the delay, but we were taken by surprise about the strong demand. 

[PrikPot]

5 hours ago, redwood1 said:

For all you naysayers, PrickPot is getting close to selling out their stock of weed....Trust me folks price is not so important if you can have weed delivered to your house or condo,with a few mouse clicks.... 

 

Plus they offer COD to boot.....So no need to pay immediately...

We are actually restocking this weekend and will launch six new strains on Monday. And we will have a good steady supply from now. 

 

It is also important to point out that besides free delivery, COD, support and premium organic weed, we spend a LOT of time finding growers that meet our requirements. There is a difference between weed and weed. Not all, but many of the cheaper products you find on the market have been grown with PGRs (Plant Growth Regulators), counter-fit cheap nutrients that are highly carcinogenic.  

 

There are many good growers out there, but it is not easy as a consumer to navigate and know what is good and bad weed. We will also start lab testing products from our growers next month to add an extra level of comfort. 

 

 

[BritManToo]

12 minutes ago, PrikPot said:

but many of the cheaper products you find on the market have been grown with PGRs (Plant Growth Regulators), counter-fit cheap nutrients that are highly carcinogenic.  

Never heard of PGRs before, but you're right I do use cheap WESCO fertilizer on my hydro grow. I don't mind and neither do the plants.

 

Just out of interest, what nutrients do your growers use?

Thailand banned the import of all the usual recommended products like Fox Farm.

Couldn't buy them anywhere last year, WESCO was the only game in town.

If I could find something better, at a reasonable price, I'd use it.

But even now Fox Farm at 2000bht (750ml) Vs WESCO 120bht (1Kg) doesn't make much financial sense to me.

[PrikPot]

3 hours ago, CrunchWrapSupreme said:

Hey PrikPot and other weed enthusiasts, I'm intrigued but afraid I don't know much about it.

 

How's the ganja for high blood pressure? The stuff the local hospital's been giving the missus has been messing her up. She's tired all the time, wants to sleep early. Would weed fix it? Which kind?

Hey, we are not in a position to give medical advice around cannabis. But as with all good things in life, be careful what you consume when you got high blood pressure. There are a lot of natural remedies that usually help, such as freshly pressed ginger and turmeric. Readily available around here. Then of course, cut down on sugar (read beer). ????

[JustAnotherFarang]

I received my first postal supplies today from an alternative supplier and I was pleasantly surprised.  5 g of strawberry made my head bloom and the 5g of cheese was very uplifting.  Prices very reasonable too 2000 baht for 10 grammes.  100 g of green crack will arrive soon too......theres a growing marketplace if you avoid the malls ????

 

happy daze

[Gilligan In Drag]

On 6/21/2022 at 2:23 PM, Smithson said:

If one is an experienced gardener, and there are many here, then it's a relative easy plant to grow outdoors.

In Isaan nothing grows easy. Really, I would try to grow indoors, people will just rip your plants off anyway as a reward for succeeding. I'd otherwise give them what I grew, but they steal our flowers and one time cleaned out our 200 odd  orchids we had hanging in our backyard when we went away to Bangkok and put the orchids up on their front porches to rub our noses in it. What brilliant comedians. Nothing you can do and they love that!  I love how my wife says, "I'd like to buy some ganja but then the local guy selling is a big mouth and he'd bad mouth me to everyone in town for having bought ganja from him how and probably say its for my farang husband who is some kind of drug addict as the guy pops his 5th  yaba tab." I just have a beer and say Hey yeah, man its that guyses karma man! Whatever!" But, No, if I grow it will be in my basement and I'll gladly burn the stuff I don't smoke in a big bon fire just to spite them because half of them are theiving lying perpetually cheating at poker plastic trash burning yaba heads who will die of old age at 35.  And they'll complain about the air pollution as they stand over their burning plastic bag lava heaps. But apparently Thats what being a human being is all about in this day its about might and not right, and might not or maybe probably until something else suits me because i said so shut the f--- up!

[KhunLA]

3 hours ago, Gilligan In Drag said:

but they steal our flowers and one time cleaned out our 200 odd  orchids we had hanging in our backyard when we went away to Bangkok and put the orchids up on their front porches to rub our noses in it. What brilliant comedians. Nothing you can do and they love that!  .....

 

.....But, No, if I grow it will be in my basement 

Nice neighborhood ????

You have a basement ?  That's a rarity. 

[bangkokairportlink]

Thank you, very good prices, but can you discount if I buy 100g ? please send a message if possible, or anybody who can deliver 100g for Monday latest, I am waiting for your prices. Thanks

[bangkokairportlink]

On 6/23/2022 at 4:09 PM, JustAnotherFarang said:

I received my first postal supplies today from an alternative supplier and I was pleasantly surprised.  5 g of strawberry made my head bloom and the 5g of cheese was very uplifting.  Prices very reasonable too 2000 baht for 10 grammes.  100 g of green crack will arrive soon too......theres a growing marketplace if you avoid the malls ????

 

happy daze

where do you get the 100g please ? i am interested, thanks.

 

[CraigInBangkok]

On 6/23/2022 at 2:28 PM, PrikPot said:

We are actually restocking this weekend and will launch six new strains on Monday. And we will have a good steady supply from now. 

 

It is also important to point out that besides free delivery, COD, support and premium organic weed, we spend a LOT of time finding growers that meet our requirements. There is a difference between weed and weed. Not all, but many of the cheaper products you find on the market have been grown with PGRs (Plant Growth Regulators), counter-fit cheap nutrients that are highly carcinogenic.  

 

There are many good growers out there, but it is not easy as a consumer to navigate and know what is good and bad weed. We will also start lab testing products from our growers next month to add an extra level of comfort. 

 

 

 again ... dense doesnt mean it was grown using PGR's!  Stop scare mongering to sell your product

[bangkokairportlink]

On 6/21/2022 at 4:12 AM, Gilligan In Drag said:

Even with the most convenient paint by numbers thus expensive indoor growing set up its still probably much cheaper to grow your . Lets see then, shall we? Allow me to go completely crazy for 20 minutes and speculate, estimate etc:

 

I'm sure its possible to do much better than what I outline here starting with ordering top of the line seeds from Holland, Spain, UK, US etc for $5-10 apiece, $50-100 a ten pack. But who knows, you might luck out and find a great phenotype lurking in the seed in the bottom of your bowl of Guay Tiow sai ganja, na krap. Actually you can pay what you want, there's super esoteric boutique seeds for the skies the limit on online international delivery sites like Neptune Seeds, another good one is Sensible Seeds U.K.  that has a lot of positive reviews about not ripping people off tons of free seeds for large orders, and a huge selection of all the major seed breeders. Beware the rip off artists masquerading as Canadian seed banks mostly, they abound, weird grammar and general extreme and nonsensical English is the warning sign. They get all  the company graphics somehow so these sites had me fooled for quite awhile, luckily I never ordered before I saw all the complaints on sites like Trust Pilot. The English was so bizarre however you still got completely sketched out by it. These guys are in Canada? OK, maybe they are immigrant Chinese Canadians or something but are they that xenophobic that they won't even hire a local to  write up the products they are selling? Complaints range from never receiving product and not responding to inquiries after they have your Bitcoin to getting orders but the seeds have been switched out for ones that don't pop, or grow something some <deleted> thats not on the tin etc. Once you're aware, its easy to spot the legit sites if you are not already hip, if it gives you the creeps just by pass them there are many others.

 

Then there's an online  guy/bloke/düde in Thailand (you need the umlat over your u when you say dude if you want to sound like a stoner or leave it out if you don't want to sound that way and you naturally say it that way because you're a white boy or girl from California) Stoner Corner Thailand selling Mars Hydro grow tents, fans, air filters and lights online for about the same price if you ordered them yourself from overseas, the shipping and import fees are more than the cost of the gear if you order from abroad, so Stoner Corner passes those costs on to you charges double the sticker price you'll get from ordering abroad and it would work out only probably 30 percent more expensive ordering from Stoner Corner, but minus a long wait and potential customs hassles. Or so I assume. There's not a lot of help or info at Stonercorner and the site sketches me out a wee bit as well, so i am on the fence about them, so you might rather order from Amazon or somewhere abroad anyway...yuck, Amazon or maybe better 1,000 seeds in Germany has a ton of stuff. Stoner Corner  also sells stones for stoners  to smoke like Mokum Tulip for 175,000 baht a pound or Galactic Runtz or Buntz or Lunks or whatever its called for 200,000 baht a pound, so we can compare directly, a pound o' Stonercorner buds or Stoner corner gear to grow your own pound and probably much more fun should you succeed. This would be the kind of set up that I might get should I decide I don't just want to get some dirt put some expensive ganja seeds in and set it out in the back yard and hope:

 

1. Mars Hydro TS 3000- covers 5 foot by 5 foot area and more in a reflective sided Mars Hydro grow tent- 14,300 baht

2. Mars Hydro Grow Tent- 7 foot 10.5 inches x 3 foot 11.2 inches x 6 foot 6.7 inches- 7,600 baht

3. Mars Hydro 6 inch In-Line Fan, Air-filter and Thermostat- 6,200 baht

4. Organic super power soil-less soil T-rex 10 kilo bag- 1,100 baht x 6 (one bag fills one 6.5 gallons/22 liters)- 6,600 baht

5. Organic nutrients 3 pack (Vegetative, Shield, and Bloom) 1,500 baht x 2 or 10 (?) who knows, no info about how much you need to grow good pot, lets say x2 - 3000 baht

6. A pair of Mars Hydro sunglasses so you don't go blind from working so hard growing ganja 570 baht

7. Bloom Booster soil improvement (Perhaps the T-rex soil can be improved upon, so you might need this) 1500 baht x 2 for 5 kilos, each plant needs 1 cup a week- 3,000 baht

8. Scrog netting to uphold heavy bud stalks 120 x 120 cm 450 baht x 2- 900 baht

9. 5 gallon "Smart" Pots 80 baht x 6- 480 baht

 

Comment: You can get a VivoSun complete set up: tent, lights, in line fan and thermostat for less than 400 dollars. But you'll pay as much for the shipping and import fees and oc course you're ordering from Mr. Smithers and his snickering pooch Smedly over at Amazon. I heard tell from the authorities at the University of Cannabis where you can get a Master of Cannabis degree for less than 400 dollars that VivoSun is a recommened brand whereas among the many reputable grow tent makers we see no mention of Mars. I don't know, there are plenty of growers on Youtube who mention using Mars stuff so its probably OK an who knows they might using them on Mars so you'll have something to talk about with the Martians when it turns out they have been running things here on earth all along.

 

Stuff Stonercorner doesn't sell but which seems to me to be essential if you want a shot at growing top shelf stuff, which you can surely do, its not rocket science though I'm sure it is an art, but more about staying focussed grasshopper than re-inventing the wheel backwards with a simulataneous cute playing the spoons and tap dance act:

 

Dehumidifier (You can buy them or order them from Home Pro, but can they be hooked up to a controller? I dunno, Home Pro probably doesn't know either, but you should just buy them anyway and save them and give them to your grandchildren when you pass away  if it isn't compatible with a ganja set up) G.M.S H2105 25SQ.M BLACK at Home Pro- 1,500 baht

 

Humidifier (Weirdly you can buy them in Thailand. Isn't Thailand humid enough? Well maybe not sometimes if you are growing bud in a tent) G.M.S H2105 25SQ.M at Home Pro-1,500 baht

 

Humidity Controller (For sensing humidity levels and switching on/off your humidifier/dehumidifier) 1000 Seeds in Germany has a good selection and you can pay what you want to. 25 Euro to 400 Euro. I thought the GSE 8A looked good, but I don't know they may be garbage, have to check reviews if'n there's anywheres left that aint so Dad-burned  corrupted: -125 euro but more like 175-200 after shipping and import tax- 6,000 baht

 

There's also supposedly a very good alternative with Inkbird humidity controllers which I've heard mushroom growers say are good and they are only 25 dollars but look too much like disposable Chinese junks or junk rather, but then again isn't everything disposable Chinese junk including certain presidents of certain large powerfull American countries. You also have to buy them on Amazon, go ahead make my day, be my guest, its your planet's funeral if you go on supporting this company and yeah I admit I use them too for books, you can't buy books like Clark Coolidge's "A Book Beginning What and Ending Away." anywhere in Asia, I probably own the only copy on the continent  and what use is being stoned if you don't that book to trip out on:

 

 

10. Seeds (I think you want to get seeds for stuff that interest you and that will keep you motivated to keep growing for the next 5 years or so so that you at least get the most out of your tent set up .) - 15,000 baht is what i want to spend on some tropical landraces (Colombia, Mexico, Thailand, Malawi, Congo, Afghanistan) some classics (AK47, Jack Herer, some variety of haze) some auto-flowers (420 Fast Buds looks like an excellent seed producer, tons of info and articles and pics and grower questions answered) and a few trendy new ones that sound and look interesting the Plant Stable seed breeder in the US on Neptune Seeds seedbank looks fascinating.

 

11. Electricity per month- I would guess another 1,000-3,000 baht depending if you are sharing your house's air conditioning or if you are air conditioning your grow area separately. The LED lights I believe are relatively negligible in terms of how much electricity it takes to run them versus say halide lights or whatever it used to be but if you are using old school lighting  its quite a significantly higher amount of juice but maybe those kind of lights are a thing with some, perhaps it gives your weed something special, I don't know, I'm sure theres some sort of old school cannabis lighting cult out there and they will never surrender their ballasts.

 

12. If you live out in the sticks you'll need a power surge protector and a battery backup. I think those run about 6,000 baht. Other wise all your gear risks getting fried or your set up going on the blink if the power fails.

 

So again thats:

14,300- Lights

7,300- Grow Tent

6,200- In-Line Fan+Air Filter+Temperature Control

6,600 - organic soilless soil for 1 grow (6-8 plants)

3,000- organic nutrients for 1 grow (6-8 plants)

3,000- bloom booster 1 grow (6-8 plants)

570- special invisible glasses to help you remain invisible while gardening

900- Scrog Netting 2 x (120x 120)

480- 6 pots

3000- Crummy Home Pro Humidifier + Crummy Dehumidifier

6000- humidity controller

15,000- seeds (enough for probably 5 years of growing)

4,000-12,000-baht electric bill for 4 months

6,000-power surge protector.

 

So thats 76,350-84,350 for your initial pound of bud. Of course after that its lots cheaper at 16,600-24,000 per 4 months.

 

Could you get a pound of bud out of it in four months? Would you want to, quality over quantity maybe, or are you going with what you are interested in and like versus just brute production and thereby cheaper? I suppose you could get more than a pound out of it with plants that finish ultra fast like some of the faster auto-flowers some of which the Fast Buds seed company promise are done in 55-60 days. or regular plants that produce a ton of buds. Lets say you get a half pound out  in 4 months, 8 ozs, then you are not doing much better than just buying a pound from Stoner corner. If you like sativa, I would think generally speaking you'll have a tougher time making the grade cost-wise your first growing season whereas your indicas and afganicas are going to produce more. But yeah, that first season out of the way and your looking at dirt cheap and primo ganja, as much as you need and just the kind you want not what they happen to have in stock. And you know Thailand, it "pot" luck even when you go to the supermarket sometimes.

 

The tent gives you nearly 2.5 square meters. And considering that I like the sound of auto-flowers being done in two months, I would plant a variety of auto-flowers  for my first grow and that would happen to more than make up the cost of buying a pound from Stoner Corner. There are quite a number of plants that according to the auto-flower mavens at 420 Fast Buds  will yield 450-600 grams per square meter in two months. So given you have 2 square meters at minimum in the above mentioned 240cm wide x 100cm wide tent, that's 900-1200 grams per two months or 1800-2400 grams per 4 months. A lot of 20-28% THC stuff to smoke. So, I guess you really have to like smoking ganja or maybe you enjoy giving everyone in your village an eighth ounce 4 times a year which might get you a hello how are you instead of being ignored for supplying the best free pot known to man. If you were Thai and allowed and able to sell it, whoa...lets count our eggs before they hatch for a minute and say you could sell your produce at 100 baht a gram. kick ass pot for 180,000-240,000 baht out of your tent per 4 month season. I think you'd have a shot at unloading that in 2022 at that price. You could go 30 baht a gram and  still make 54,000- 72,000 baht every 4 months. Or open a shop in Bangkok pay an additional 15,000-20,000 per month for the shop rental, 50,000 baht/month for 2 staff members and have loads of year round enjoyment  incurring the wrath of the Ganja business community selling top shelf bud (currently 800-1200/gram) for 200 baht a gram and gross 360,000-480,000 baht per season. Minus costs of 304,000 maximum per season you're running on fumes the first few seasons until either you're assassinated or put in prison for something trumped up and unrelated or you're interviewed in Coconuts and constantly by half the Youtubers in Thailand as a cannabis hero for bringing affordable ganja prices to everyone. At which point you then raise your prices to a whopping 500 baht as your sales go through the roof to an unimaginable 3600-4800 grams sold per season grossing you 1.8-2.4 million baht per season minus the costs of running two grow tents at 33,200-48,000 baht per season and an initial start up cost for the second tent set up of 59,180 baht assuming everything is the same price as when the 1st set up was bought. Considering also your shop costs of 280,000 baht per season and that's 1.8 -2.4 million minus (48,000+59,180+280,000)= 1,412,820 to 2,012,000 net per 4 month season.

 

I imagine that's still a pretty ideal picture, I must leaving major costs out there like govt taxation which I'm sure will be steep if hey even allow shops to continue selling ganja. It seems they want to have people sell to the govt only. Appalling. What does the government know about ganja they'd probably reject a lot of it for arbitrary reasons just because they can under pay etc. But even if you managed to find a way to sell ganja at say 300 baht a gram after taxes, you'd eventually have quite stiff competition from businesses that didn't have to pay rent as owners of a property and perhaps in some perfect location like Siam Square of Khao San Road. You might be able to cut rent costs considerably doing a cutsey bootsy sidewalk stand, or shop on wheels junk truck selling food and ganja with DJ Johnny Dreadlocks or Hip Hop Harry or Metal MAry or Re-Bop the Be Bop Zoot suit smokin hot jazz and latin hipster pumpin the tunes or some other gimmick to get people in. If it were me I'd be all in for something much more Amsterdam than US cannabis shop which from over here on this side of the swamp  all seem about as exciting as an electric  pencil sharpener dealership. I think many businesses may decide to do a copy of the American style shop where you just get your buds and get the hell out of there and leave because it reminds you more of going to get your tooth drilled at dentist office. Already Highlands is offering beer and probably some snacks and other reasons to hang out and meet people who are avid about buds. I think that is the way to go the angle to absolutely crush the competition: offer entertainment, hang out space, events that stoned people have forgotten they enjoy like poetry readings, open mike nights, local bands playing gigs, maybe a small bookshop with good guides on growing ganja, good intelligent counter culture stuff, help people to use ganja to feed their awareness instead of just encouraging numbness and tuning out and not do it in a stupid sterile zombie pc way either, just try to help people to help themselves see through the utter <deleted> this world is drowning in. Or sell clothes and music develop a style for people to communicate to the world at large with. Or go simple with maybe just with a very friendly coffee shop/ganja outlet with some soul would do it, pay enough to attract smart and excellent people to work make them feel very good and proud to work there maybe enough people are burned out on phoney, sterile, and life in a petri dish lab experiement where you are just getting cynically gouged and bowlschlitzted everywhere you turn around.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

thank you for spending the time to post this !

 

 

[bangkokairportlink]

On 6/23/2022 at 2:34 PM, BritManToo said:

Never heard of PGRs before, but you're right I do use cheap WESCO fertilizer on my hydro grow. I don't mind and neither do the plants.

 

Just out of interest, what nutrients do your growers use?

Thailand banned the import of all the usual recommended products like Fox Farm.

Couldn't buy them anywhere last year, WESCO was the only game in town.

If I could find something better, at a reasonable price, I'd use it.

But even now Fox Farm at 2000bht (750ml) Vs WESCO 120bht (1Kg) doesn't make much financial sense to me.

 

can you recommend a light ? anything cheaper / better ? or they all are sold at similar price and quality is equal ?

 thanks a lot

[BritManToo]

On 6/21/2022 at 4:12 AM, Gilligan In Drag said:

Could you get a pound of bud out of it in four months? Would you want to, quality over quantity maybe, or are you going with what you are interested in and like versus just brute production and thereby cheaper?

I purchased a 2ft x 4ft grow tent and 2x HLG 240s with Quantum boards for 12,000bht.

That grew me 20oz in 6 months using WESCO fertilizer at 120bht/Kg.

I'm not sure why you would be expecting to pay 74kbht. 

 

As for seeds, autos aren't that great an idea as they usually produce 1oz per plant.

Fem seeds are the way to go, 1 seed then 10 clones from that seed.

600bht for the equipment to make 4 clones per week, what's the rush?

[BritManToo]

18 minutes ago, bangkokairportlink said:

can you recommend a light ? anything cheaper / better ? or they all are sold at similar price and quality is equal ?

 thanks a lot

HLG 240 + Quantum board LEDs, around 5,000bht, covers an area of 2ft x 4ft.

There's no other light worth buying IMHO.

https://www.lazada.co.th/products/led-grow-light-hlg-samsung-lm301h-v3-120240320480600-watt-meanwell-driver-indoor-grow-light-i1541120030-s4105680284.html

Loads of sellers ..........

I have 2 of these, come with dimmers and hanging wires. 

[daveAustin]

On 6/21/2022 at 4:12 AM, Gilligan In Drag said:

Even with the most convenient paint by numbers thus expensive indoor growing set up its still probably much cheaper to grow your . Lets see then, shall we? Allow me to go completely crazy for 20 minutes and speculate, estimate etc:

 

I'm sure its possible to do much better than what I outline here starting with ordering top of the line seeds from Holland, Spain, UK, US etc for $5-10 apiece, $50-100 a ten pack. But who knows, you might luck out and find a great phenotype lurking in the seed in the bottom of your bowl of Guay Tiow sai ganja, na krap. Actually you can pay what you want, there's super esoteric boutique seeds for the skies the limit on online international delivery sites like Neptune Seeds, another good one is Sensible Seeds U.K.  that has a lot of positive reviews about not ripping people off tons of free seeds for large orders, and a huge selection of all the major seed breeders. Beware the rip off artists masquerading as Canadian seed banks mostly, they abound, weird grammar and general extreme and nonsensical English is the warning sign. They get all  the company graphics somehow so these sites had me fooled for quite awhile, luckily I never ordered before I saw all the complaints on sites like Trust Pilot. The English was so bizarre however you still got completely sketched out by it. These guys are in Canada? OK, maybe they are immigrant Chinese Canadians or something but are they that xenophobic that they won't even hire a local to  write up the products they are selling? Complaints range from never receiving product and not responding to inquiries after they have your Bitcoin to getting orders but the seeds have been switched out for ones that don't pop, or grow something some <deleted> thats not on the tin etc. Once you're aware, its easy to spot the legit sites if you are not already hip, if it gives you the creeps just by pass them there are many others.

 

Then there's an online  guy/bloke/düde in Thailand (you need the umlat over your u when you say dude if you want to sound like a stoner or leave it out if you don't want to sound that way and you naturally say it that way because you're a white boy or girl from California) Stoner Corner Thailand selling Mars Hydro grow tents, fans, air filters and lights online for about the same price if you ordered them yourself from overseas, the shipping and import fees are more than the cost of the gear if you order from abroad, so Stoner Corner passes those costs on to you charges double the sticker price you'll get from ordering abroad and it would work out only probably 30 percent more expensive ordering from Stoner Corner, but minus a long wait and potential customs hassles. Or so I assume. There's not a lot of help or info at Stonercorner and the site sketches me out a wee bit as well, so i am on the fence about them, so you might rather order from Amazon or somewhere abroad anyway...yuck, Amazon or maybe better 1,000 seeds in Germany has a ton of stuff. Stoner Corner  also sells stones for stoners  to smoke like Mokum Tulip for 175,000 baht a pound or Galactic Runtz or Buntz or Lunks or whatever its called for 200,000 baht a pound, so we can compare directly, a pound o' Stonercorner buds or Stoner corner gear to grow your own pound and probably much more fun should you succeed. This would be the kind of set up that I might get should I decide I don't just want to get some dirt put some expensive ganja seeds in and set it out in the back yard and hope:

 

1. Mars Hydro TS 3000- covers 5 foot by 5 foot area and more in a reflective sided Mars Hydro grow tent- 14,300 baht

2. Mars Hydro Grow Tent- 7 foot 10.5 inches x 3 foot 11.2 inches x 6 foot 6.7 inches- 7,600 baht

3. Mars Hydro 6 inch In-Line Fan, Air-filter and Thermostat- 6,200 baht

4. Organic super power soil-less soil T-rex 10 kilo bag- 1,100 baht x 6 (one bag fills one 6.5 gallons/22 liters)- 6,600 baht

5. Organic nutrients 3 pack (Vegetative, Shield, and Bloom) 1,500 baht x 2 or 10 (?) who knows, no info about how much you need to grow good pot, lets say x2 - 3000 baht

6. A pair of Mars Hydro sunglasses so you don't go blind from working so hard growing ganja 570 baht

7. Bloom Booster soil improvement (Perhaps the T-rex soil can be improved upon, so you might need this) 1500 baht x 2 for 5 kilos, each plant needs 1 cup a week- 3,000 baht

8. Scrog netting to uphold heavy bud stalks 120 x 120 cm 450 baht x 2- 900 baht

9. 5 gallon "Smart" Pots 80 baht x 6- 480 baht

 

Comment: You can get a VivoSun complete set up: tent, lights, in line fan and thermostat for less than 400 dollars. But you'll pay as much for the shipping and import fees and oc course you're ordering from Mr. Smithers and his snickering pooch Smedly over at Amazon. I heard tell from the authorities at the University of Cannabis where you can get a Master of Cannabis degree for less than 400 dollars that VivoSun is a recommened brand whereas among the many reputable grow tent makers we see no mention of Mars. I don't know, there are plenty of growers on Youtube who mention using Mars stuff so its probably OK an who knows they might using them on Mars so you'll have something to talk about with the Martians when it turns out they have been running things here on earth all along.

 

Stuff Stonercorner doesn't sell but which seems to me to be essential if you want a shot at growing top shelf stuff, which you can surely do, its not rocket science though I'm sure it is an art, but more about staying focussed grasshopper than re-inventing the wheel backwards with a simulataneous cute playing the spoons and tap dance act:

 

Dehumidifier (You can buy them or order them from Home Pro, but can they be hooked up to a controller? I dunno, Home Pro probably doesn't know either, but you should just buy them anyway and save them and give them to your grandchildren when you pass away  if it isn't compatible with a ganja set up) G.M.S H2105 25SQ.M BLACK at Home Pro- 1,500 baht

 

Humidifier (Weirdly you can buy them in Thailand. Isn't Thailand humid enough? Well maybe not sometimes if you are growing bud in a tent) G.M.S H2105 25SQ.M at Home Pro-1,500 baht

 

Humidity Controller (For sensing humidity levels and switching on/off your humidifier/dehumidifier) 1000 Seeds in Germany has a good selection and you can pay what you want to. 25 Euro to 400 Euro. I thought the GSE 8A looked good, but I don't know they may be garbage, have to check reviews if'n there's anywheres left that aint so Dad-burned  corrupted: -125 euro but more like 175-200 after shipping and import tax- 6,000 baht

 

There's also supposedly a very good alternative with Inkbird humidity controllers which I've heard mushroom growers say are good and they are only 25 dollars but look too much like disposable Chinese junks or junk rather, but then again isn't everything disposable Chinese junk including certain presidents of certain large powerfull American countries. You also have to buy them on Amazon, go ahead make my day, be my guest, its your planet's funeral if you go on supporting this company and yeah I admit I use them too for books, you can't buy books like Clark Coolidge's "A Book Beginning What and Ending Away." anywhere in Asia, I probably own the only copy on the continent  and what use is being stoned if you don't that book to trip out on:

 

 

10. Seeds (I think you want to get seeds for stuff that interest you and that will keep you motivated to keep growing for the next 5 years or so so that you at least get the most out of your tent set up .) - 15,000 baht is what i want to spend on some tropical landraces (Colombia, Mexico, Thailand, Malawi, Congo, Afghanistan) some classics (AK47, Jack Herer, some variety of haze) some auto-flowers (420 Fast Buds looks like an excellent seed producer, tons of info and articles and pics and grower questions answered) and a few trendy new ones that sound and look interesting the Plant Stable seed breeder in the US on Neptune Seeds seedbank looks fascinating.

 

11. Electricity per month- I would guess another 1,000-3,000 baht depending if you are sharing your house's air conditioning or if you are air conditioning your grow area separately. The LED lights I believe are relatively negligible in terms of how much electricity it takes to run them versus say halide lights or whatever it used to be but if you are using old school lighting  its quite a significantly higher amount of juice but maybe those kind of lights are a thing with some, perhaps it gives your weed something special, I don't know, I'm sure theres some sort of old school cannabis lighting cult out there and they will never surrender their ballasts.

 

12. If you live out in the sticks you'll need a power surge protector and a battery backup. I think those run about 6,000 baht. Other wise all your gear risks getting fried or your set up going on the blink if the power fails.

 

So again thats:

14,300- Lights

7,300- Grow Tent

6,200- In-Line Fan+Air Filter+Temperature Control

6,600 - organic soilless soil for 1 grow (6-8 plants)

3,000- organic nutrients for 1 grow (6-8 plants)

3,000- bloom booster 1 grow (6-8 plants)

570- special invisible glasses to help you remain invisible while gardening

900- Scrog Netting 2 x (120x 120)

480- 6 pots

3000- Crummy Home Pro Humidifier + Crummy Dehumidifier

6000- humidity controller

15,000- seeds (enough for probably 5 years of growing)

4,000-12,000-baht electric bill for 4 months

6,000-power surge protector.

 

So thats 76,350-84,350 for your initial pound of bud. Of course after that its lots cheaper at 16,600-24,000 per 4 months.

 

Could you get a pound of bud out of it in four months? Would you want to, quality over quantity maybe, or are you going with what you are interested in and like versus just brute production and thereby cheaper? I suppose you could get more than a pound out of it with plants that finish ultra fast like some of the faster auto-flowers some of which the Fast Buds seed company promise are done in 55-60 days. or regular plants that produce a ton of buds. Lets say you get a half pound out  in 4 months, 8 ozs, then you are not doing much better than just buying a pound from Stoner corner. If you like sativa, I would think generally speaking you'll have a tougher time making the grade cost-wise your first growing season whereas your indicas and afganicas are going to produce more. But yeah, that first season out of the way and your looking at dirt cheap and primo ganja, as much as you need and just the kind you want not what they happen to have in stock. And you know Thailand, it "pot" luck even when you go to the supermarket sometimes.

 

The tent gives you nearly 2.5 square meters. And considering that I like the sound of auto-flowers being done in two months, I would plant a variety of auto-flowers  for my first grow and that would happen to more than make up the cost of buying a pound from Stoner Corner. There are quite a number of plants that according to the auto-flower mavens at 420 Fast Buds  will yield 450-600 grams per square meter in two months. So given you have 2 square meters at minimum in the above mentioned 240cm wide x 100cm wide tent, that's 900-1200 grams per two months or 1800-2400 grams per 4 months. A lot of 20-28% THC stuff to smoke. So, I guess you really have to like smoking ganja or maybe you enjoy giving everyone in your village an eighth ounce 4 times a year which might get you a hello how are you instead of being ignored for supplying the best free pot known to man. If you were Thai and allowed and able to sell it, whoa...lets count our eggs before they hatch for a minute and say you could sell your produce at 100 baht a gram. kick ass pot for 180,000-240,000 baht out of your tent per 4 month season. I think you'd have a shot at unloading that in 2022 at that price. You could go 30 baht a gram and  still make 54,000- 72,000 baht every 4 months. Or open a shop in Bangkok pay an additional 15,000-20,000 per month for the shop rental, 50,000 baht/month for 2 staff members and have loads of year round enjoyment  incurring the wrath of the Ganja business community selling top shelf bud (currently 800-1200/gram) for 200 baht a gram and gross 360,000-480,000 baht per season. Minus costs of 304,000 maximum per season you're running on fumes the first few seasons until either you're assassinated or put in prison for something trumped up and unrelated or you're interviewed in Coconuts and constantly by half the Youtubers in Thailand as a cannabis hero for bringing affordable ganja prices to everyone. At which point you then raise your prices to a whopping 500 baht as your sales go through the roof to an unimaginable 3600-4800 grams sold per season grossing you 1.8-2.4 million baht per season minus the costs of running two grow tents at 33,200-48,000 baht per season and an initial start up cost for the second tent set up of 59,180 baht assuming everything is the same price as when the 1st set up was bought. Considering also your shop costs of 280,000 baht per season and that's 1.8 -2.4 million minus (48,000+59,180+280,000)= 1,412,820 to 2,012,000 net per 4 month season.

 

I imagine that's still a pretty ideal picture, I must leaving major costs out there like govt taxation which I'm sure will be steep if hey even allow shops to continue selling ganja. It seems they want to have people sell to the govt only. Appalling. What does the government know about ganja they'd probably reject a lot of it for arbitrary reasons just because they can under pay etc. But even if you managed to find a way to sell ganja at say 300 baht a gram after taxes, you'd eventually have quite stiff competition from businesses that didn't have to pay rent as owners of a property and perhaps in some perfect location like Siam Square of Khao San Road. You might be able to cut rent costs considerably doing a cutsey bootsy sidewalk stand, or shop on wheels junk truck selling food and ganja with DJ Johnny Dreadlocks or Hip Hop Harry or Metal MAry or Re-Bop the Be Bop Zoot suit smokin hot jazz and latin hipster pumpin the tunes or some other gimmick to get people in. If it were me I'd be all in for something much more Amsterdam than US cannabis shop which from over here on this side of the swamp  all seem about as exciting as an electric  pencil sharpener dealership. I think many businesses may decide to do a copy of the American style shop where you just get your buds and get the hell out of there and leave because it reminds you more of going to get your tooth drilled at dentist office. Already Highlands is offering beer and probably some snacks and other reasons to hang out and meet people who are avid about buds. I think that is the way to go the angle to absolutely crush the competition: offer entertainment, hang out space, events that stoned people have forgotten they enjoy like poetry readings, open mike nights, local bands playing gigs, maybe a small bookshop with good guides on growing ganja, good intelligent counter culture stuff, help people to use ganja to feed their awareness instead of just encouraging numbness and tuning out and not do it in a stupid sterile zombie pc way either, just try to help people to help themselves see through the utter <deleted> this world is drowning in. Or sell clothes and music develop a style for people to communicate to the world at large with. Or go simple with maybe just with a very friendly coffee shop/ganja outlet with some soul would do it, pay enough to attract smart and excellent people to work make them feel very good and proud to work there maybe enough people are burned out on phoney, sterile, and life in a petri dish lab experiement where you are just getting cynically gouged and bowlschlitzted everywhere you turn around.

 

Good effort. I did a big post once—along the lines of why the universe doesn’t need a god and life can start on any planet/moon given the conditions—but nothing of this length and usefulness. ????

[bangkokairportlink]

ok now ? everybody has found cheaper online ? Easy, they are EVERYWHERE for EXACTLY the same quality or better...

 

 

[edgarfriendly]

easy to say the pricing is out of your hands, doesnt make it true.

 

and premium prices should only be for premium quality.

 

anything  else is greed aka a ripoff

 

[edgarfriendly]

On 6/23/2022 at 11:34 AM, CrunchWrapSupreme said:

Hey PrikPot and other weed enthusiasts, I'm intrigued but afraid I don't know much about it.

 

How's the ganja for high blood pressure? The stuff the local hospital's been giving the missus has been messing her up. She's tired all the time, wants to sleep early. Would weed fix it? Which kind?

Indicas are what she needs.

 

short fat afghani plants

 

not these racy local sativa tweeds