Cheapest good weed now ? I found 350 thb/gram but not cheaper yet, any idea ?

[SamuiGrower]

I find it somewhat fascinating that a group of cannabis loving connoisseurs, here in Thailand, on this forum, put their faith and trust in the naming conventions and THC content of the flower being sold here. Telling the truth is not a prerequisite to selling flower.

 

With that said, how do you know if you are smoking a Sativa, Indica or hybrid? The short answer, you don’t. Scientifically, those lines have been blurred for a very, very long time. The way YOU feel after smoking it, is by no way a reliable arbitor of a strain or chemotype/cultivar.

 

In 2019, The Journal of Cannabis Research published a paper detailing how genetic tools clearly showed the misconceptions of strain reliability. To summarize that paper…. “We failed to find clear genetic support for commonly referenced Sativa, Indica and Hybrid types as described in online databases. Significant genetic differences within samples of the same strain were observed indicating that consumers could be provided inconsistent products. (Edit: and you are!) These differences have the potential to lead to phenotypic differences and unexpected effects, which could be surprising for the recreational user, but have more serious implications for patients relying on strains that alleviate specific medical symptoms.”

 

Naming conventions (of strains) do not align with common widespread definitions of Sativa, Indica, Hybrids, and Hemp. Strain inconsistencies are clear and evident and not isolated to single sources. Why is that? Because you can call your seed or flower anything you want on the retail end, even in regulated, seed-to-sale markets. Am I intimating there are ‘bad actors’ in the business as well as a beyond-a-shadow-of-a-doubt, muddied genetics? Absolutely.

 

18th-century researchers originally classified cannabis into two species based on the plant's appearance. Researchers now know that on a molecular level, there's no difference between an indica strain and a sativa strain of cannabis.

 

The advent of molecular testing proved the original classification system was inaccurate. Genetic analyses do not support the reported proportions of Sativa and Indica within each strain, which is expected given the lack of genetic distinction between Sativa and Indica. 

 

To that end, breeders, growers, dispensaries and budtenders needed a better system to convey the differences between strains, especially to the lay public. Enter the Terpene classification system. Indica, which is said to physically relax the body and give a sedative effect, and sativa, which is said to be energizing and provide more of a head-high.

 

In reality, no scientific evidence supports this dichotomy because on a molecular level, indica and sativa strains don't have pattern differences that set the two "types" apart from each other. As a result, consumers buy strains that don't actually align with the perceived effects they're marketed to provide. 

 

So, it must be the entourage effect, right? It was proposed many decades ago as a hypothesis and still remains just that, with no hard data scientifically or medically to empirically support it. There is no purity or dosage that can be medically induced to replicate any consistent outcomes. We certainly know the inhalation of combusted terpenes (smoking) was never ‘baked’ into the hypothesis from the beginning.

 

To further complicate the idea that terpenes provide the UP or DOWN effect, consider this; terpene synthase in cannabis is spatial. No two plants or parts of the same plant produce the same terpene profile. To further add to the ‘confusion’, set, setting, diet, mood, exercise and a litany of other factors all contribute to the perceived effect of the cannabis you smoke. It’s personal and different for everyone. I would put more stock in that belief system than in the Sativa UP/ Indica DOWN constructs.

 

I, for one, am amazed of the phenotype variation in the seeds sold today. I cannot rely on most seed banks (mostly all) to provide stable genetics on the commercial level in which I work. Hybrid crosses are easy to produce and stability is not a factor for most seed banks. A sour diesel strain in NY looks, tastes, and test completely different from one grown in northern Michigan. So, if you’re a hobby grower and you plant 3 sour diesel seeds and you get 3 distinctly different phenotypes, what do you say? Not much, obviously, because it doesn’t matter, right? But if you’re a commercial grower and you grow out a 1000 seeds and it’s clear you have many variants, your only choice is to pheno hunt, create mothers, and clone or feminize to create stable genetics with testing. Emphasis on the testing part. Stable genetics begin with F1 and S1 lineage. Haven’t heard a single reference to that by any grower or seed supplier here. It’s a buyer/grower beware climate for sure.

 

If labels define Sativa or Indica as two distinct groups then the differences should be seen in biochemical markers and genetic assays. A published study in Nature Plants, showed the ‘naming labels’ were meaningless. Strains labeled Sativa were more closely related (genetically) to indicas than sativas.

 

In 1999 the strain, AK-47 won the Sativa Cup in that year’s Cannabis Cup. Four years later the same strain won the Indica Cup. Right.

 

For those of you who say they can definitely tell the difference between a Sativa or an Indica (and I’ve read all the eye-rolling post here), I say bless your hearts. I have zero doubt that you are describing the effects you are feeling. The purpose of this post is NOT to denigrate you or say otherwise. I would love to meet you and offer you a position in my company (lots of travel and benefits). We would sit down over a few bowls of different strains and cans of Pepsi and Coca Cola (labels obscured - of course!) and work out a role for you.

 

There is certainly an argument in saying, there are landrace sativas, here in Thailand from which you can judge the “Sativa effect” There are, but they are not pure, and the THC levels have been so diluted from years of outdoor cross pollination of other landrace strains, that It would be hard to judge them. This is the ‘stuff’ (brick weed) that is so overtly discussed in this thread as ‘hardly worth smoking’,  but they are sativas.

 

As a postscript to my diatribe, has any grower ever provided a COA (Certificate of Analysis) of their flower? Have you ever seen one? I pay 10,000 Baht for a COA after extraction (CBD). Has any breeder/seller ever posted one on this forum?  I just see photos of schwag with fantasy THC percentages, sellers talking mostly marketing drivel and lots of people whining about the look, quality, effects, prices, etc. - and rightfully so, at that. P.s. these “home test” kits and devices hardly count for anything. HPLC/GCMS or nothing!

 

I have no doubt that there is a connoisseurship here in this forum but WE are definitely not the market - tourists are. Maybe if WE (or regulation) demand COA’s, the quality will improve and so will the market. Wishful thinking for sure

[Hokeus]

5 hours ago, skuebs said:

Yes, they suggest we stop using the labels because it's misleading.

https://www.dal.ca/news/2022/01/07/cannabis-labels-study-indica-sativa.html
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dariosabaghi/2021/10/20/stop-using-indica-and-sativa-labels-for-cannabis-study-says/

Yup, all wishful dreaming. But for those who have been taken in by the fanfare for the last 10-20 years, it will be hard for them to accept the fact it's really just been a big hoax. Here is also more of the useful reading on the subject:

 

https://www.vice.com/en/article/kbvz9m/weed-strains-are-mostly-bull<deleted>-weedweek2017 

 

https://www.insider.com/why-theres-no-difference-between-indica-and-sativa-marijuana-strains-2020-4 

 

https://www.thestranger.com/weed/2017/08/23/25380755/please-shut-up-about-indica-versus-sativa

[taninthai]

Over the years had many views over this saliva/indica……most off the time we didn’t have a choice it’s illegal not readily available so you smoke what’s available.

Sometimes I used to think they effect me the other way round than what there supposed to ,then I would think I like the taste sative but the buzz off indica (which would make me awkward customer), now conclusion is smoke  a few off any strain and all I want to do is sit and chill,,,,,,,as other posters said I know I’m cooked when I open web browser and forget what website I wanted to look at in a matter of seconds🤣🤣🤣definately not wanting to do anything exerting a lot of effort.

having said that I can smoke this 30 bht weed and feel fine as  in not wanting to sit and relax not actually feeling much at all really,more feeling restless because the weed not really done much .

cutting grass after smoking indica 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣for me I enjoy the buzz much more if I cut the grass first then sit down roll a fat one and sit smoking it admiring my excellent work Completely chilled knowing I have accomplished my days tasks…….

generally they grow different shapes and buds so you can tell the difference the indica being a lot more dense .

Edited January 30 by taninthai

[BritManToo]

Topic ........ cheap cannabis ......... I have reported the previous 10-20 off topic posts and asked for them to be removed.

Please start your own threads if you don't want to discuss 'cheapest cannabis'

 

Fat Banana at 40bht/gm (LINE: @ca08) is as good as anything I've purchased in Thailand.

Makes me sleep, cures my arthritis, perfect just before bed!

[taninthai]

11 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Topic ........ cheap cannabis ......... I have reported the previous 10-20 off topic posts and asked for them to be removed.

Please start your own threads if you don't want to discuss 'cheapest cannabis'

 

Fat Banana at 40bht/gm (LINE: @ca08) is as good as anything I've purchased in Thailand.

Makes me sleep, cures my arthritis, perfect just before bed!

Topic is actually cheapest good weed ,,,,emphasis being on good.

several posts are being made here recomending weed and we can see 3 people have replied saying they tried these recommendations and were not happy.

Some of us been smoking in excess off 30 years we are not interested in the type of weed some newbie smokes once a day before bedtime and claims it to be some super weed.

[BritManToo]

2 minutes ago, taninthai said:

Topic is actually cheapest good weed ,,,,emphasis being on good.

several posts are being made here recomending weed and we can see 3 people have replied saying they tried these recommendations and were not happy.

Some of us been smoking in excess off 30 years we are not interested in the type of weed some newbie smokes once a day before bedtime and claims it to be some super weed.

You're not really contributing anything to this thread, why don't you take your 30 years of smoking and .............

[Rimmer]

Can we stay on topic please, here is the topic title we should be discussing in case you forgot already....🤑

 

Cheapest good weed now ? I found 350 thb/gram but not cheaper yet, any idea ?

[HugoFastor]

Lots of posts in this thread suggesting sources of brick-weed quality herb (containing possibly less than 10% THC) at between 10B-40B a gram. It may be cheap, but it isn't what many people would consider good. 🤨😖😤🙄😬😵‍💫

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, HugoFastor said:

Lots of posts in this thread suggesting sources of brick-weed quality herb (containing possibly less than 10% THC) at between 10B-40B a gram. It may be cheap, but it isn't what many people would consider good. 🤨😖😤🙄😬😵‍💫

Yeah I get that.

I won't buy brick but as I've gotten into making weed herbal infusions. Cheap low THC weed is fine for that. Just use a higher ratio of weed to oil and/or take a larger portion of oil to get whatever level THC you desire. Sorted (cheaply). 

[HugoFastor]

12 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Yeah I get that.

I won't buy brick but as I've gotten into making weed herbal infusions. Cheap low THC weed is fine for that. Just use a higher ratio of weed to oil and/or take a larger portion of oil to get whatever level THC you desire. Sorted (cheaply). 

Sounds good for your needs. But any extracts containing more than 0.2% THC are illegal in Thailand. So probably most people aren't taking that path. People looking for weed here will presumably either be smoking or vaping it. Also, using oils with extracts in a vaporizer or a dab rig aren't good for the respiratory system. Assume you're just ingesting the oil though.  

[Jingthing]

12 minutes ago, HugoFastor said:

Sounds good for your needs. But any extracts containing more than 0.2% THC are illegal in Thailand. So probably most people aren't taking that path. People looking for weed here will presumably either be smoking or vaping it. Also, using oils with extracts in a vaporizer or a dab rig aren't good for the respiratory system. Assume you're just ingesting the oil though.  

No they aren't.

Take under tongue or mix with food.

Weed is legal in Thailand NOW. Period.

 

 

Edited January 30 by Jingthing

[HugoFastor]

12 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

No they aren't.

Take under tongue or mix with food.

Weed is legal in Thailand NOW. Period.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_in_Thailand

 

Excerpts copied from the above Wikipedia link:

 

On 9 June 2022, cannabis extracts containing less than 0.2% THC, referred to as industrial hemp, was decriminalized.

 

Cannabis extracts and cannabis products (including edibles, food supplements, cosmetics, etc.) containing more than 0.2% THC by dry weight are still categorized as a Category 5 narcotic.

[Jingthing]

10 minutes ago, HugoFastor said:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_in_Thailand

 

Excerpts copied from the above Wikipedia link:

 

On 9 June 2022, cannabis extracts containing less than 0.2% THC, referred to as industrial hemp, was decriminalized.

 

Cannabis extracts and cannabis products (including edibles, food supplements, cosmetics, etc.) containing more than 0.2% THC by dry weight are still categorized as a Category 5 narcotic.

That's ridiculous.

Edibles with high THC coming from extracts and high THC extracts are being sold now all over Thailand, openly in shops, and of course online, with no legal consequence.

That is for NOW of course.

Shops getting in trouble are generally about licensing issues.

[HugoFastor]

10 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

That's ridiculous.

Edibles with high THC coming from extracts and high THC extracts are being sold now all over Thailand, openly in shops, and of course online, with no legal consequence.

That is for NOW of course.

Shops getting in trouble are generally about licensing issues.

Regardless of how you view it, if shops are selling illegal extract products or not, or whether there are legal consequences or not, that is the law.
 

In fact, the government is aiming to reduce the 0.2% THC limit even further on any extract product that isn't being created by the pharmaceutical industry strictly for medical use. 
 

So flowers with any amount of THC are no longer an illegal narcotic as on June 2022, but any extract product containing above 0.2% THC still remains an illegal Category 5 narcotic. 

[HugoFastor]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Weed is legal in Thailand NOW. Period.

 

 

As a further clarification, and as the video you posted stated, they didn't create a law specifically legalizing cannabis in Thailand. All they did was take cannabis flowers/buds off the list of criminal narcotics. So they decriminalized cannabis flowers and all other natural parts of the plant. However, any product containing a THC extract above 0.2% remains on the list of criminal class 5 narcotics. This is why in my original post on this topic I mentioned that any oils containing more than 0.2% THC are illegal in Thailand and so probably most people aren't taking that path. Rather many are typically just smoking or vaping the dried flowers. 

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, HugoFastor said:

As a further clarification, and as the video you posted stated, they didn't create a law specifically legalizing cannabis in Thailand. All they did was take cannabis flowers/buds off the list of criminal narcotics. So they decriminalized cannabis flowers and all other natural parts of the plant. However, any product containing a THC extract above 0.2% remains on the list of criminal class 5 narcotics. This is why in my original post on this topic I mentioned that any oils containing more than 0.2% THC are illegal in Thailand and so probably most people aren't taking that path. Rather many are typically just smoking or vaping the dried flowers. 

Bull.

Edibles and gummies are very popular.

[HugoFastor]

10 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Bull.

Edibles and gummies are very popular.

Not bull at all. You're in denial of the facts and now creating your own narrative to suit your own needs. 🤢

 

https://washingtonpost.com/travel/2022/06/14/marijuana-legal-thailand-tourists/

 

From the above article:

 

"Cafes and restaurants in Thailand are allowed to serve cannabis-infused food and drinks, but food and beverage products must contain less than 0.2 percent THC to be legally sold."

[Jingthing]

Show me one case where they even tested for thc levels much less arrested for that since the law change.

One case.

[GammaGlobulin]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Show me one case where they even tested for thc levels much less arrested for that since the law change.

One case.

 

Somehow, I never figured you for a weed man, or even to be interested in the herb.

 

[Jingthing]

17 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

Somehow, I never figured you for a weed man, or even to be interested in the herb.

 

I haven't been since my teen years but couldn't resist the weed explosion here and it's been fascinating to learn how things have advanced since then.

Also wine is too expensive here.

[GammaGlobulin]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I haven't been since my teen years but couldn't resist the weed explosion here and it's been fascinating to learn how things have advanced since then.

Also wine is too expensive here.

 

Actually, your comment proves that my intuition is always...spot on.

I never figured you for a pot head.

You are just too smart and too productive to be one.

 

As to wine....

There are some fine wines that I wish I could afford.

And these wines are probably not even available here.

 

I just came across a short story about an epicurean who turned out to be a complete faker.

Maybe you know the story, and it's basically a simple story meant for language instruction to help ESL students.

 

There is no substitute for the enjoyment of living life free of mind-bending substances, meaning psychotropic drugs, of which wine is one, it seems.

 

Still, the enjoyment of a fine wine is worth the hangover, the morning after, in my opinion.

 

The only hurdle for me, in my potential imbibing, is the cost, and I would not wish to spend the money on wine when I could spend it on something else, such as a computer, that might afford me many months of pleasure, rather than a morning hangover.

 

 So, I guess...
I am not the head case that most here might mistakenly believe me to be....

 

And, neither are you, one presumes.

 

 

[ABCDBKK]

3 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Actually, your comment proves that my intuition is always...spot on.

I never figured you for a pot head.

You are just too smart and too productive to be one.

 

As to wine....

There are some fine wines that I wish I could afford.

And these wines are probably not even available here.

 

I just came across a short story about an epicurean who turned out to be a complete faker.

Maybe you know the story, and it's basically a simple story meant for language instruction to help ESL students.

 

There is no substitute for the enjoyment of living life free of mind-bending substances, meaning psychotropic drugs, of which wine is one, it seems.

 

Still, the enjoyment of a fine wine is worth the hangover, the morning after, in my opinion.

 

The only hurdle for me, in my potential imbibing, is the cost, and I would not wish to spend the money on wine when I could spend it on something else, such as a computer, that might afford me many months of pleasure, rather than a morning hangover.

 

 So, I guess...
I am not the head case that most here might mistakenly believe me to be....

 

And, neither are you, one presumes.

 

You certain you are not a head case? 🤫😂

 

Anyway, try some weed. Live a little. It might do you some good. A lot cheaper than alcohol. No angry, aggressive, depressing thoughts, and no hangovers. Happy days. 
 

As mentioned above, the weed explosion here is fascinating in many ways and hard to resist. The stuff is really good quality, many varieties to choose from and, if you have a good source, a fraction of the price of what it costs elsewhere in the world. 

[stoner]

its all about the terps baby. 

[bossdog]

On 1/24/2024 at 5:52 PM, Hokeus said:

Nice to hear someone can enjoy 10B/G weed. I haven't seen any yet though that would interest me at that price. And you say strong, but that weed is likely to be 8%-10% THC (possibly less). Thus, "strong", is that relative to regular brick weed?  

Sorry for late reply, I was quite busy the last days.

KD has a nice strong sativa high, with moments of passing out for a few seconds if hitting the bong too hard.
I am enjoying ts effects the most, compared to godfather, sirius, gorilla, black lebanon, haze, and wedding cookie.

It smells, looks and tastes better than brick weed, I'd pay 60 bath for it, but I am happy with 10 bath as well, and their 50 kg sold out in a day. And I seem not to be alone, judging on the responses in the customer LINE group of that shop. 🙂

[still kicking]

Why is it you can openly talk about weed, AN is promoting weed, but you can't post a picture of a beer bottle. 

[wombat]

On 1/31/2024 at 8:08 AM, stoner said:

its all about the terps baby. 

terps in the morning terps in the evening terps around supper time🥳

[Beardog]

On 1/12/2024 at 5:01 PM, benHH said:

 

 

bruce banner and gelato 33

 

140 per gram , minimum 10 g , mix and match 

 

i can pm details of the supplier if anyone is interested 

 

 

Ben gave me a great recommendation . I got all 4 types my favorite is the Gelato 33. Nice & sweet & aromatic & sticky .. I am very satisfied!

[Burgo1979]

6 hours ago, Beardog said:

Ben gave me a great recommendation . I got all 4 types my favorite is the Gelato 33. Nice & sweet & aromatic & sticky .. I am very satisfied!

do you have supplier details please. LINE ID ?

[Beardog]

5 hours ago, Burgo1979 said:

do you have supplier details please. LINE ID ?

l will personally message you Burgo. TV doesn't like links to businesses.

[Beardog]

Sent you a PM.