NoshowJones Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 7 hours ago, Broken Record said: Bar owners would go broke if there was strict drink driving enforcement, most Farangs I know drink and drive on a regular basis, of course none will be members here, they never are. What about people with unregistered motorbikes. The is one stupid old woman in my village who rides on the wrong side of the road very regularly, she nearly knocked me off my pedal bike. I gave her hell then she chased me with a big stick and tried to hit me with it, so I grabbed it off her and took her reg number and reported it to the police. They could not do anything as the old bat's bike was unregistered. 2
BritManToo Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 10 hours ago, webfact said: Regarding the points system drivers who lose all their points will have their licence suspended initially for 9 months. They'd have to first issue me a licence in order to suspend it. 1
The Theory Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 10 hours ago, webfact said: After the 12 points are exhausted the driver is banned for three months and the points are only restored after one year. Why don't you just catch "opposite riders" or "motorcycles on sidewalk? Long talk no action ???????? then think of "points" ?!!!!!!!!
Phuket Pete Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 Anything for choking everyone behind you with black exhaust fumes ?
rickudon Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 I look forward to seeing this being strictly enforced - then in one years time driving will become pleasurable as 75% of drivers would be banned! I wish.........
kennw Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 7 hours ago, soumanioco said: Increasing the severity of punishment will never deter crime. When someone breaks the law the only thing in their mind is that they'll never get caught. I really hope motor bike riders are going to be subject to this scheme if so many of them wont last 6 months.
thailand49 Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 They have been talking about this system for 5 years, Years ago they purchased radar guns millions of baht wear ate they? 12 points? How many are going to continue to die before they max out their points? And how are they able to check points on the spot even if we're to do a inspection. And then the money exchanged to keep point off the books. ????
RedRoadRunner Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 Want to see this in practice they got no means to control that anyway ????
bbbbooboo Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 Hmmm….would the majority of Thais worry about this? I doubt it, why do you need a licence anyway?
MrJ2U Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 Sounds fair. Hopefully you can only accumulate 1 pont per day. Long drives with speed cameras one could easily get 3 or 4 tickets (points). Drunk driving should be automatic suspension or something more substantial. It's going to be very hard for poor families to afford car seats. There usually 3000-5000 baht. Government should subsidize them. 1
hotchilli Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 20 hours ago, webfact said: Four points is for drunk drivers. Should be an automatic one year ban.
Lextsy1 Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 I went through 3 pages of negativity and didn’t even get a single “well it’s a start”. The sad thing is if I went through every thread I’d probably find it’s the same bunch of <deleted> with the bad attitude.
ifmu Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 21 hours ago, petermik said: 4 points deduction for drink driving???? should be automatic 1 year ban and 1 month prison. i would agree if their were injuries or fatalities .. 1
ifmu Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 a lot of great points on this thread .. please give them a chance to enforce this ..before condemning them we have been complaining about road safety long before i got here .. hopefully if they get this right they will take the next step further ..
jacko45k Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 17 hours ago, Photoguy21 said: And a heavy fine Shorter suspension.... more opportunity for repeat offences and more money!
brianthainess Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 22 hours ago, webfact said: Regarding the points system drivers who lose all their points will have their licence suspended initially for 9 months. 22 hours ago, webfact said: After the 12 points are exhausted the driver is banned for three months and the points are only restored after one year. I'm glad that's so clear, as mud that is. 1
brianthainess Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 18 hours ago, connda said: Motorists beware! Points system in operation next year - lose all your points and licence suspended 3 months How many points are taken away for driving without a license? How many Thais drive with a license in the first place? How many Falang rent Motor Bikes without a M/C licence ?
jacko45k Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, brianthainess said: How many Falang rent Motor Bikes without a M/C licence ? The police only seem to check you have an IDP (or local licence), as so many do not, and then they get the fine. The rental companies are supposed to check if a person has a specific M/C licence, but I don't believe they check for that, nor the IDP. 1
brianthainess Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, jacko45k said: The police only seem to check you have an IDP, as so many do not, and then they get the fine. The rental companies are supposed to check if a person has a specific M/C licence, but I don't believe they check for that, nor the IDP. Sorry but i don't understand as IDP do have what classes you can drive. Rental companies are supposed to check but Never do.
actonion Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 What about when they Murder a Pedestrain on a crossing, or has this new Emulsion paint that they have been using been sucessful 1
brianthainess Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 16 hours ago, ozimoron said: No. This points system brings Thailand more or less into line with many other countries who have proven that the points system is effective as a deterrent. How many other countries have separate licences as Thailand does for Cars and M/C ?
Excel Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, brianthainess said: This points system brings Thailand more or less into line with many other countries who have proven that the points system is effective as a deterrent. Not for the 32% of drivers/riders that don't even have a license , to them it will make no difference whatsoever. Hope mods allow this link to PBS https://www.thaipbsworld.com/police-defend-proposal-for-stiff-fines-for-drivers-without-driving-licenses/ 1
brianthainess Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Lextsy1 said: I went through 3 pages of negativity and didn’t even get a single “well it’s a start”. The sad thing is if I went through every thread I’d probably find it’s the same bunch of <deleted> with the bad attitude. Welcome on board Newbie. ???? 2
brianthainess Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 I guess as it's reported 4 times on the first page, there is going to be a points system introduced. ????
jacko45k Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 21 minutes ago, brianthainess said: Sorry but i don't understand as IDP do have what classes you can drive. Rental companies are supposed to check but Never do. I thought that is what I said... maybe not clearly. I was focusing on the police as that is the interaction that matters. Years ago, police asked for a licence...and a home one was sufficient, despite the fact they probably could not decipher many of them. At some point they started focusing on IDPs, and I believe it was because so many tourists didn't bother getting one, so more fines were being taken. I recall a post where a tourist was griping that the rental outfit let him rent without an IDP and he got stopped and fined, always somebody else's fault isn't it.
brianthainess Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, jacko45k said: I thought that is what I said... maybe not clearly. I was focusing on the police as that is the interaction that matters. Years ago, police asked for a licence...and a home one was sufficient, despite the fact they probably could not decipher many of them. At some point they started focusing on IDPs, and I believe it was because so many tourists didn't bother getting one, so more fines were being taken. I recall a post where a tourist was griping that the rental outfit let him rent without an IDP and he got stopped and fined, always somebody else's fault isn't it. Many Many years ago you could show your car's MOT cert. from the UK to the cops here, they had no idea what it was and waved you on.
jacko45k Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 Just now, brianthainess said: Many Many years ago you could show your car's MOT cert. from the UK to the cops here, they had no idea what it was and waved you on. One stopped me in the 80s and I couldn't get away without giving him 100 baht... now that they recognize.
Henryford Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 Hard to put points on a licence most thais don't have
FolkGuitar Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 Road fatalities will not go down until there is a viable live police presence ON THE ROADS. On ALL roads. Everything else is just window dressing.
actonion Posted July 22, 2022 Posted July 22, 2022 23 hours ago, brianthainess said: Welcome on board Newbie. ???? We've been saying " its a start" for many years
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