Recreational use of pot to be recriminalised as Minister warns abuses are undermining his plan

[ChaiyaTH]

Just now, ThailandRyan said:

Guess you missed this when you read the article yourself......read the last sentence slowly

Oh ok, so one vague person said something. Just like they said so many things, doesn't make it the policy approved by the majority. Man, this world is gonna be amazing without the generations like yourself.

[ThailandRyan]

26 minutes ago, ChaiyaTH said:

What are you even talking about, to decriminalise something, it comes with a law, which is what happened. You are talking about the lack of regulations or tweaked laws for commercial use, which are being worked on in the background already.

Read Anutins comments again....slowly

 

Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Public Health, Anutin Charnvirakul (inset left), emphatically announced that the recreational use of cannabis was still illegal in Thailand and would be controlled further with a new law before parliament which will criminalise smoking of the flower part of the cannabis plant and redesignate it as a narcotic substance.

 

I read that as needing a doctors prescription to smoke it or ingest it for medical reasons only

 

Edited August 1, 2022 by ThailandRyan

[MrMuddle]

The best way to ensure Tourism bounces back, is to make Cannabis legal in all forms. 

[Doctor Tom]

3 minutes ago, ChaiyaTH said:

Cry me a river, you can get jaba and alcohol on every corner of the street. It seems that it is older people who lack brains, regardless of nationality, to think like you. Clearly you do not have to smoke anything to get insane reasoning, one is just born with it.

 

Oh yeah, cannabis is something new, so OBVIOUSLY, it is over hyped for the first few months, as anything always is in Thailand, after which it is as normal as a buffalo.

got out of the wrong side of your bed today did you?   I'd go for a long walk if I was you, help you to calm down a bit. 

[ThailandRyan]

Just now, MrMuddle said:

The best way to ensure Tourism bounces back, is to make Cannabis legal in all forms. 

like what, a full moon Cannabis party, RAVE style.......just what the country needs.

[MrMuddle]

1 minute ago, ThailandRyan said:

like what, a full moon Cannabis party, RAVE style.......just what the country needs.

Way better, and a lot less hassle for the authorities than alcohol ever was. A huge reduction in violence too, what's not to like, among reasoning individuals?

[ThailandRyan]

4 minutes ago, ChaiyaTH said:

Oh ok, so one vague person said something. Just like they said so many things, doesn't make it the policy approved by the majority. Man, this world is gonna be amazing without the generations like yourself.

Anutin is the Author of the original legalization, he is stepping backwards because he messed up royally with the implementation and not having rules or regulations in place that would have kept what is occurring at a minimum and been under the radar.  You are missing the main story....time to lay off the weed vaporizer.

[Doctor Tom]

3 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

like what, a full moon Cannabis party, RAVE style.......just what the country needs.

Well said.  If your Nation's tourist industry depends on the use of Cannabis to attract travelers, when you have a tropical paradise as a location,  then you are in real trouble.  

[ThailandRyan]

3 minutes ago, MrMuddle said:

Way better, and a lot less hassle for the authorities than alcohol ever was. A huge reduction in violence too, what's not to like, among reasoning individuals?

Of course they Full moon party location would be ringed with food stalls, and recliners........lol

[Jingthing]

Bummer.

My mellow has been officially haRshed.

[ThailandRyan]

14 minutes ago, ChaiyaTH said:

Cry me a river, you can get jaba and alcohol on every corner of the street. It seems that it is older people who lack brains, regardless of nationality, to think like you. Clearly you do not have to smoke anything to get insane reasoning, one is just born with it.

 

Oh yeah, cannabis is something new, so OBVIOUSLY, it is over hyped for the first few months, as anything always is in Thailand, after which it is as normal as a buffalo.

You have such a narrow view of what is truly happening, it is not something new, just the lack of true legislation made it become overblown...try again.  Older people, do you think I am elderly or something.  I retired early because I could based upon my investments.

[ThailandRyan]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Bummer.

My mellow has been officially haRshed.

Just stock up and put the buds in airtight cannisters, you will be ok until they haRsh it out....

[Mr Meeseeks]

A ridiculous and fearmongering article that misses the key points entirely and deliberately.

 

In order to recriminalise the use of cannabis they would have to add it back to the category 5 narcotics list from which it was recently removed. 

 

By doing so, they would make hundreds of thousands of Thais criminals overnight. Note that they have just given away a million plants, and it is available everywhere and now a massive industry with products on the shelves of every convenience store and supermarket. 

 

It's here to stay so better just deal with it as it is. 

[bamnutsak]

I'm 51/49 on personal use being allowed going forward, but with many controls, laws, rules, regulations.

 

That is I think there is a 51% chance personal use is ultimately legal.

 

I change my % hourly here.

 

 

That said, the article is still uselessly uninformative and misleading, meant to gin up clicks and posts.

 

 

 

 

[Excel]

Just now, Mr Meeseeks said:

By doing so, they would make hundreds of thousands of Thais criminals overnight.

And thus make it a "Disneyland" for the RTP to extract "donations".  

[Mr Meeseeks]

Just now, Excel said:

And thus make it a "Disneyland" for the RTP to extract "donations".  

Oh absolutely. 

 

Recriminalising cannabis is the most ridiculous and self-destructive thing they could possibly do at the moment, which is why it will probably happen 555.

[ThailandRyan]

4 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

A ridiculous and fearmongering article that misses the key points entirely and deliberately.

 

In order to recriminalise the use of cannabis they would have to add it back to the category 5 narcotics list from which it was recently removed. 

 

By doing so, they would make hundreds of thousands of Thais criminals overnight. Note that they have just given away a million plants, and it is available everywhere and now a massive industry with products on the shelves of every convenience store and supermarket. 

 

It's here to stay so better just deal with it as it is. 

All that has to be done is to repeal the law they just put on the books and it would instantly sunset and revert back to it's previous status.  They could then give Amnesty for those who are in possession or were released would alleviate as you wrote "make hundreds of thousands of Thais criminals overnight". At the same time they could submit a remade bill that would place all of the rules and regulations into law.

Edited August 1, 2022 by ThailandRyan

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, bamnutsak said:

That said, the article is still uselessly uninformative and misleading, meant to gin up clicks and posts.

Yea a bit of a bummer when you actually have to click and read all the information and details contained in the link..........????

[bamnutsak]

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

Yea a bit of a bummer when you actually have to click and read all the information and details contained in the link..........????

Which I did.

 

I wouldn't make such comments if I didn't.

 

And your point is what, exactly?

 

(off to ignore you)

 

:rolleyes

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, bamnutsak said:

Which I did.

 

I wouldn't make such comments if I didn't.

 

And your point is what, exactly?

 

(off to ignore you)

 

:rolleyes

Great ask me a question and put me on ignore so you cant read it...................magic ???? True stoner

[Doctor Tom]

2 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

I'm 51/49 on personal use being allowed going forward, but with many controls, laws, rules, regulations.

 

That is I think there is a 51% chance personal use is ultimately legal.

 

I change my % hourly here.

 

 

That said, the article is still uselessly uninformative and misleading, meant to gin up clicks and posts.

 

 

 

 

I don't care one or the other.  My simulant  of choice, apart from sex, is alcohol., and then only in moderation.  I've never used the stuff and never seen any need to do so,  as I don't like ingesting obvious poisons, bar the beer and wine.  It's the stupidity of the authorities, their lack of consistency, forward thinking and planning that annoys me, in many areas of life,  not the actual cannabis.

[daveAustin]

10 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

Refraining from intoxicants which cloud the mind is one of the five Buddhist Precepts for leading a moral life. It is thus inconceivable that Thailand's Buddhist clergy isn't as equally opposed to the recreational use of cannabis as the leadership of the Islamic Committee. I suspect the only reason why Thailand's Buddhist senior leadership has not already voiced similar opposition is out of a reluctance to wade into political controversy. It only serves to foment religious bigotry to focus on the Islamic Committee's voiced opposition when everyone knows full well that recreational cannabis use is equally interdicted by Buddhist teachings.

I don't see them voicing much opposition to the ingesting of alcohol either. Let's ban it all, eh. I mean why not the one when the other clouds the mind even more so and also has a knack of killing on a very regular basis. I'm sure that would make Thailand's tolerant Islamic populace happy.

 

The article is typical and basically immaterial. But if the confused government cave and roll this one back for the sake of assuaging the Islamists, doctors (and related big pharma drug pushers), the dinosaurs and irrelevant fuddy duddies, as opposed to laying down rules and regs, it will be a monumental issue for them.

Edited August 1, 2022 by daveAustin

[zzaa09]

You know how that is.

The best laid plans......

[ThailandRyan]

12 minutes ago, daveAustin said:

I don't see them voicing much opposition to the ingesting of alcohol either. Let's ban it all, eh. I mean why not the one when the other clouds the mind even more so and also has a knack of killing on a very regular basis. I'm sure that would make Thailand's tolerant Islamic populace happy.

 

The article is typical and basically immaterial. But if the confused government cave and roll this one back for the sake of assuaging the Islamists, doctors (and related big pharma drug pushers), the dinosaurs and irrelevant fuddy duddies, as opposed to laying down rules and regs, it will be a monumental issue for them.

Do you truly believe that it will be a monumental disaster to Thailand?  I do not, I see it as correcting something they failed to include in the original roll-out.  I have yet to see anything here in Thailand, in the almost 20 years I have been coming and going, and now living here, that has not been changed/amended once or twice, case in point are the vaccinations, and the roll-out of some Visa's requiring HI.

Edited August 1, 2022 by ThailandRyan

[Gecko123]

The Thai Examiner article points out that in countries where recreational and medical cannabis has been legalized, the THC content has climbed considerably over time as, once legalized, there are few regulations in place to limit the THC content. For example, the article says THC levels have climbed from 10 to 14% in 2010 to 25-40% in recent years.

 

The studies cited in the Thai Examiner article as the ones which the Thai government is relying upon to formulate policy are recent US and UK studies which warn about potential mental and other health problems from the more potent strains of cannabis available today. I think these studies deserve careful consideration and should not be dismissed out-of-hand simply as outdated "anti-pot" propaganda.

[Mr Meeseeks]

Smoking rooms and cafes springing up everywhere. Any government that attempts prohibition to stop this cash cow is doomed.

 

Edited August 1, 2022 by Mr Meeseeks

[ThailandRyan]

7 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

Smoking rooms and cafes springing up everywhere. Any government that attempts prohibition to stop this cash cow is doomed.

 

Doomed as in how?  Civil uprising?, Tourist reprisals? Think Emergency decree which has already caused issues....

[jollyhangmon]

... well, 'As You Were' then ...?? Big thanx from the NIDDA  ( => that would be the National Illicit Drug Dealers Association, in case you wasn't aware) - again!

 

Funny, but way dumber than an empty rockbox that lot ...   &  ... 

[Mr Meeseeks]

24 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Doomed as in how?  Civil uprising?, Tourist reprisals? Think Emergency decree which has already caused issues....

Doomed as in won't be popular at the ballot box.

 

You may not like it, but public reaction to the decriminalisation of cannabis has been overwhelmingly positive.

[Mr Meeseeks]

21 minutes ago, jollyhangmon said:

Funny, but way dumber than an empty rockbox that lot ... 

Sit back and watch 'em fail. Time and time again.