Liz Cheney is considering a presidential run to stop Trump after losing her House seat

[Scott]

 

 

Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., appears at an Election Day gathering in Jackson, Wyo., to concede defeat in a GOP primary to Harriet Hageman, who was backed by former President Trump. Cheney vows that she will carry on her work to make sure Trump doesn't return to the presidency.

Jae C. Hong/AP

 

Wyoming Republican Rep. Liz Cheney is laying out her future political plans, including a possible run against Donald Trump in 2024, after conceding defeat in the primary election for her House seat. Her loss on Tuesday followed unyielding criticism since the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol of the former president and his efforts to subvert the 2020 election.

 

"This primary election is over, but now the real work begins," Cheney said in her concession speech Tuesday night, noting that she had called opponent Harriet Hageman to congratulate her.  Cheney acknowledged in a Wednesday interview on NBC's Today she was "thinking" about running for president in 2024.

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/2022-live-primary-election-race-results/2022/08/16/1117705185/liz-cheney-concedes-primary-defeat-but-her-fight-against-trump-continues

[bendejo]

Now with nothing to lose, she has already come out swinging.  She may be the most effective anti-DT Republican, and IMO if it wasn't for her grit the Dems would have muffed the 1/6 investigation by now.  Do I want her to be president?  HELL NO!!!!  But I am looking forward to her debating in the primaries, particularly the invertebrates who will still have the stench of DT's backside on their breath.  

Has anyone else noticed that there is one establishment Republican DT has not bashed?  It's her father.  And DT's not all that rough on her either.  The bully knows when to back off.

 

 

[Credo]

I hope she waits until after the conclusion of the Jan 6 select committee investigation.  The optics are not good if she declares while still on the committee.

[Jingthing]

16 minutes ago, Credo said:

I hope she waits until after the conclusion of the Jan 6 select committee investigation.  The optics are not good if she declares while still on the committee.

She will wait. No problem there. 

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, bendejo said:

Now with nothing to lose, she has already come out swinging.  She may be the most effective anti-DT Republican, and IMO if it wasn't for her grit the Dems would have muffed the 1/6 investigation by now.  Do I want her to be president?  HELL NO!!!!  But I am looking forward to her debating in the primaries, particularly the invertebrates who will still have the stench of DT's backside on their breath.  

Has anyone else noticed that there is one establishment Republican DT has not bashed?  It's her father.  And DT's not all that rough on her either.  The bully knows when to back off.

 

 

She has no chance of being nominated, but yes, it would be good to have her anti-trumpist voice still in the public eye. She could be building for a time when maybe the Trumpists fade away. It's hard to imagine that right now. His movement has become much bigger than him in the republican party. It's a completely different party now for better or worse. In my opinion MUCH WORSE because they're now quite explicitly white nationalist, anti-democracy, pro authoritarian, pro minority rule by dirty tricks on the court and gerrymandering, pro bigotry against non-white minorities, actively scapegoating LGBT people at a toxicity level I haven't seen in my lifetime, and infected with antisemitism. 

Edited August 17, 2022 by Jingthing

[pegman]

 She seems to be determined to take on the mantle of  Republican Party primary chief Trump troller. I have my doubts that he runs whether by  his choice or that of others but regardless best of luck to Liz. 

[Pattaya Spotter]

8 down 2 to go!

[SunnyinBangrak]

I don't get it. If she runs not a single proper Republican will vote for her, but lots of democrats, who love her as she has been one of their most effective players, will.

 

Sounds like a delightful own goal?

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I don't get it. If she runs not a single proper Republican will vote for her, but lots of democrats, who love her as she has been one of their most effective players, will.

 

Sounds like a delightful own goal?

Since her policies are republican, wrong on both counts.

[SunnyinBangrak]

5 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Since her policies are republican, wrong on both counts.

Did you notice the result of the Wyoming Republican primary? She took an absolute shellacking even after spending a king's ransom on her campaign. Republicans do not like her. They do not like her policies. They do not like her conniving and scheming with the democrats during the one sided Jan 6th show. She is toast. Her family dynasty is toast. Thank you so much Donald Trump.

[AndyFoxy]

Love that photo. The look of a real loser.

[stevenl]

35 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Did you notice the result of the Wyoming Republican primary? She took an absolute shellacking even after spending a king's ransom on her campaign. Republicans do not like her. They do not like her policies. They do not like her conniving and scheming with the democrats during the one sided Jan 6th show. She is toast. Her family dynasty is toast. Thank you so much Donald Trump.

Trumpies do not like her, Dems like her but not her policies, republicans like her policies.

So you're wrong on both counts.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Did you notice the result of the Wyoming Republican primary? She took an absolute shellacking even after spending a king's ransom on her campaign. Republicans do not like her. They do not like her policies. They do not like her conniving and scheming with the democrats during the one sided Jan 6th show. She is toast. Her family dynasty is toast. Thank you so much Donald Trump.

A result that came as a direct result of the Wyoming GOP being stacked with MAGA and middle of the Road Republicans not taking part.

[Chomper Higgot]

Trump has handed Cheney her campaign platform.

 

The soul of the GOP and a return to what the GOP stood for over decades.

 

Or voters can stick with criminality, corruption, hatred, treachery and obstruction to what’s best for ordinary Americans.

 

The GOP under Trump is a radicalized mess.

 

Good luck Cheney.

[LarrySR]

2 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I don't get it. If she runs not a single proper Republican will vote for her, but lots of democrats, who love her as she has been one of their most effective players, will.

 

Sounds like a delightful own goal?

‘QANON Weirdo’ is considered a   “proper Republican” by some. 

 

 

[Eric Loh]

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Did you notice the result of the Wyoming Republican primary? She took an absolute shellacking even after spending a king's ransom on her campaign. Republicans do not like her. They do not like her policies. They do not like her conniving and scheming with the democrats during the one sided Jan 6th show. She is toast. Her family dynasty is toast. Thank you so much Donald Trump.

Few wrongs in your rant.

1. Not all Republicans do not like her. Only 53% of GOP voters hold unfavourable views of Cheney.

2. Her policies are focus on national security, support the military, pro-business & fiscal and social conservatism. Much in line with the party's principles.

3. Her role on Jan 6 committee was after GOP pulls out of participation. Most hearings were with GOP staffs and officers. Not one -sided as you allege. 

4. She still have a long way to go being much younger than Trump and she will outlast Trump as Trump's influence wane. 

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1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Did you notice the result of the Wyoming Republican primary? She took an absolute shellacking even after spending a king's ransom on her campaign. Republicans do not like her. They do not like her policies. 

Can you share with us the policies that she supports that Republicans do not like?

 

Liz Cheney Voted With Trump 93 Percent of Her Congressional Career

https://www.newsweek.com/liz-cheney-voted-donald-trump-93-percent-congress-1734186

[Berkshire]

Maybe President Biden can offer her a job in the current administration.  Perhaps....in the DOJ?

 

[(Bloomberg) -- President Joe Biden called Liz Cheney on Wednesday after the Wyoming congresswoman and vocal critic of former President Donald Trump was defeated in her state’s Republican primary.]

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-called-cheney-after-her-loss-to-trump-backed-challenger/ar-AA10MgAi?ocid=wispr&cvid=284d3fc0f5734f1f849c72852987f2f3

[SunnyinBangrak]

17 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Can you share with us the policies that she supports that Republicans do not like?

 

Liz Cheney Voted With Trump 93 Percent of Her Congressional Career

https://www.newsweek.com/liz-cheney-voted-donald-trump-93-percent-congress-1734186

She is pro military involvement in foreign sovereign nations. It's the legacy of her family dynasty. 

 

"Wyoming Rep. Chuck Gray (R-Casper) blamed Cheney directly for the scenario in Afghanistan, saying in a statement that she “and other radical socialists” undermined former president Donald Trump’s efforts to negotiate with the Taliban last year.

“The Taliban would not have double-crossed President Trump, because they understood he would not allow it,” Gray wrote in a statement. “What happened in Afghanistan is another result of Cheney voting to impeach President Trump to strengthen Biden and Pelosi.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/07/21/pelosi-rejects-republicans-banks-jordan-jan-6-select-committee/8042839002/

 

As you are well aware the MAGA movement is strongly against wars in foreign nations. We would have negotiated instead of allowing the horrific Russia/Ukraine/USA war to start. We would not have fled in chaotic scenes from Afghanistan before that old chestnut blaming Trump for another of Biden's failures starts again.

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13 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

She is pro military involvement in foreign sovereign nations. It's the legacy of her family dynasty. 

 

"Wyoming Rep. Chuck Gray (R-Casper) blamed Cheney directly for the scenario in Afghanistan, saying in a statement that she “and other radical socialists” undermined former president Donald Trump’s efforts to negotiate with the Taliban last year.

“The Taliban would not have double-crossed President Trump, because they understood he would not allow it,” Gray wrote in a statement. “What happened in Afghanistan is another result of Cheney voting to impeach President Trump to strengthen Biden and Pelosi.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/07/21/pelosi-rejects-republicans-banks-jordan-jan-6-select-committee/8042839002/

 

As you are well aware the MAGA movement is strongly against wars in foreign nations. We would have negotiated instead of allowing the horrific Russia/Ukraine/USA war to start. We would not have fled in chaotic scenes from Afghanistan before that old chestnut blaming Trump for another of Biden's failures starts again.

Really weird. On the one hand you claim MAGAists don't support interventions. But then you claim that Trump wouldn't have fled even though Trump negotiated an earlier withdrawal with the Taliban and slashed the number of troops there. What would Trump have done when the Afghan forces collapsed? Gone back into Afghanistan with a large American force to stabilize the situation? That's what Liz Cheney would have done. I would call that an intervention.

Such hypocrisy.

And anyway, you wrote "policies" not "policy". List some of the other policies that Cheney supports that MAGAists don't.

[bendejo]

With a bit of cleverness and cunning the Dems could make this a 'divide and conquer' moment.  Don't hold your breath.

She could emerge as the Joan of Arc of the GOP, but it may also give strength to the conservative "back in time" initiative.  I don't recall her criticizing the Clarence Thomas "we're coming for you!" announcement.

She was all for DT's paleo-conservative stuff, it's just him that she's against.

 

There is also a lot of nasty business her father ran during Bush 43 time, but no one has/had the guts to go after him, not even (the late) GHW Bush.  My joke has been that the contraption that keeps his heart pumping has a transceiver to which The Devil has the remote control.  Of course this has nothing to do with her, but she does play it like she's the apple that didn't fall far from the tree.  She can even sneer when she's talking, just like dad.

 

19 minutes ago, placeholder said:

What would Trump have done when the Afghan forces collapsed? Gone back into Afghanistan with a large American force to stabilize the situation? That's what Liz Cheney would have done.

Again, just like dad.  That man is the physical embodiment of the US military-industrial bond.  I'm sure there would a job waiting for her at Haliburton next January if she wanted it.

 

 

 

Edited August 18, 2022 by bendejo

[placeholder]

4 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

8 down 2 to go!

Does this mean that you and SunnyinBangrak will be rooting for the Democratic opponents of those 2 in November?

[lemmie]

If she ran, she would suffer a humiliating loss. Whats the best way yo win an election against Trump, ask Nancy.

 

"Voters react to Nancy Pelosi claiming Democrats will win midterm elections without Trump on the ballot"

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/watch-voters-react-nancy-pelosi-predicting-democrats-win-midterm-elections-trump-ballot

[Eric Loh]

43 minutes ago, lemmie said:

If she ran, she would suffer a humiliating loss. Whats the best way yo win an election against Trump, ask Nancy.

 

"Voters react to Nancy Pelosi claiming Democrats will win midterm elections without Trump on the ballot"

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/watch-voters-react-nancy-pelosi-predicting-democrats-win-midterm-elections-trump-ballot

Topic is about Liz Cheney and Pelosi has no Presidential ambition at ripe old age of 82. 

[lemmie]

21 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Topic is about Liz Cheney and Pelosi has no Presidential ambition at ripe old age of 82

 

"Liz Cheney is considering a presidential run to stop Trump after losing her House seat"

Yes you be correct in saying the topic is about Liz Cheney and someone named Trump (who is said by some (pelosi) that he can't be beat by others if he is on the ticket)

 

Edited October 15, 2022 by lemmie

[candide]

3 hours ago, lemmie said:

 

"Liz Cheney is considering a presidential run to stop Trump after losing her House seat"

Yes you be correct in saying the topic is about Liz Cheney and someone named Trump (who is said by some (pelosi) that he can't be beat by others if he is on the ticket)

 

Me stupid! I thought Trump had been beaten in 2020! ????

[vandeventer]

On 8/18/2022 at 6:46 AM, SunnyinBangrak said:

I don't get it. If she runs not a single proper Republican will vote for her, but lots of democrats, who love her as she has been one of their most effective players, will.

 

Sounds like a delightful own goal?

IF she runs for President it just shows that anybody can run for President. Even the 2.5 million illegal's that crossed over on Biden's watch.

[bendejo]

On 10/14/2022 at 8:17 PM, lemmie said:

"Voters react to Nancy Pelosi claiming Democrats will win midterm elections without Trump on the ballot"

About as valid as the one about Michelle Obama making a run.  Not as funny either.  Sounds like you guys are looking for a new woman to demonize.

 

 

[placeholder]

On 10/16/2022 at 9:04 AM, Road Hog said:

IF she runs for President it just shows that anybody can run for President. Even the 2.5 million illegal's that crossed over on Biden's watch.

Because she's not a citizen? Or you believe that undocumented aliens can run? Few things as sad as a failed joke.