17 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I do read links , its just that I don't read Guardian link after Guardian link .

  When people don't post their own opinion and just sent a Guardian link to be read .

   I now longer open Guardian links (because I became a regular daily reader due to all the links that got posted )

I totally agree, a rag for the lefty's and odd balls to follow.........????

I see the customary attempts to disrupt the discussion are once again in full flow.

 

 

1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

1 hour ago, NanLaew said:

Yeah. This is the (increasingly irrelevant) dinosaur fan club thread.

Yes, back when people could discuss things without just calling each other names . 

Oh my. Did I just use the 'd' word?

1 minute ago, NanLaew said:

Oh my. Did I just use the 'd' word?

Yes, its rather rude to call other people "dinosaurs" .

Do you have any contribution to the discussion to make ?

2 hours ago, ozimoron said:

The abuse was from Powell himself. You might reflect on why he lost his job. Even then his views were regarded as toxic.

and yet Churchill could say that ''Islam in a man is worse than rabies in a dog'' with no consequence?

24 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I see the customary attempts to disrupt the discussion are once again in full flow.

 

 

Well stay on topic then.....????

19 minutes ago, wombat said:

and yet Churchill could say that ''Islam in a man is worse than rabies in a dog'' with no consequence?

You are misquoting Churchill . What he said was that Islamic extremists are similar to rabid dogs , he wasn't referring to ALL Muslims , just the extremists 

59 minutes ago, transam said:

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, now we are getting to your anti-British stuff, I just knew it, the click..........Well done.....????

I'm not at all anti-British. Stop deflecting. Do you think that British colonialism was good for any of the countries they occupied?

22 minutes ago, wombat said:

and yet Churchill could say that ''Islam in a man is worse than rabies in a dog'' with no consequence?

Churchill was also a recognised racist.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/10/opinions/churchill-racist-great-white-men-view-toye-opinion/index.html

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

Churchill was also a recognised racist.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/10/opinions/churchill-racist-great-white-men-view-toye-opinion/index.html

Another one

Is there actually anyone who isn't or wasn't a racist ?

Just now, Mac Mickmanus said:

Another one

Is there actually anyone who isn't or wasn't a racist ?

Many. Just not the heroes of the far right it seems.

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

Many. Just not the heroes of the far right it seems.

You are now being offensive .

Winston Churchill stood against the Nazis .

Learn some decorum and stop calling everyone a a racist !!!!!!

1 hour ago, NanLaew said:

You sound like a proper 'love they neighbour' sort of bloke.

Far from it. ????

36 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Yes, its rather rude to call other people "dinosaurs" .

Do you have any contribution to the discussion to make ?

You're right Mick. I have am sure real dinosaurs would be greatly upset at being associated with the likes of Powell and his sycophants.

6 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Another one

Is there actually anyone who isn't or wasn't a racist ?

That's the trouble and was one of Powell's points about the use of the word racist.

 

I have what would be called by others racist views but I would only commenting on how I feel about something or someone. 

18 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

I'm not at all anti-British. Stop deflecting. Do you think that British colonialism was good for any of the countries they occupied?

You're not, wow.....................????

 

Open a thread about colonialism and I will answer........????

 

On 9/2/2022 at 2:20 PM, proton said:

Sadly anyone turning up is allowed to stay and put up in 3 star hotels and given 40 quid a week and then looked after for life, this is why they pay 4-10k for a place in a boat! 

I read that as well! Shocking.

 

Daily Mail wasn't it? Or the Express?

On 9/1/2022 at 4:35 PM, transam said:

Or Bradford, affectionately called Bombay............????

or Bradistan.

Just now, MrMuddle said:

or Bradistan.

But hey, we're not racists! much.

20 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Lots of people stood against the Nazis, It doesn't make them good people in and of itself.

 

I'll call everyone who is a racist a racist. Racists are scum. Only racists think Churchill was not a racist.

 

btw. Trump praised Hitler. Do you still like him?

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/08/trump-praised-german-generals-loyalty-to-hitler.html

Wasn't it only in 1966 that Australia ended its Whites only policies in regards to immigration ?

   Australia had racist immigration laws and you're pointing fingers at other Countries and their leaders !!!!!!!!!!

Just now, ozimoron said:

But hey, we're not racists! much.

I saw that written on a road sign, on one of the roads leading to the town, many years ago.

Just now, Mac Mickmanus said:

Wasn't it only in 1966 that Australia ended its Whites only policies in regards to immigration ?

   Australia had racist immigration laws and you're pointing fingers at other Countries and their leaders !!!!!!!!!!

oh, I'm very happy to point the finger at Australian racism as well. Did you know we massacred a large proportion of the Aboriginal population? We forcibly removed kids form their parents for decades and abused them in institutions. Wanna start a thread about Australian crimes against humanity?

1 minute ago, MrMuddle said:

I saw that written on a road sign, on one of the roads leading to the town, many years ago.

But conveniently omitted it in your original comment.

4 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

You singled out one thing that Powell said that was reasonable on the surface... without further context. You did not mention the egregious comments he made which caused him to get sacked and made him the political pariah that he remained until Trump made racism acceptable again. That is cherry picking.

The whole speech was about the subject of the UKs immigration rules and laws and whether immigration rules were necessary ,

   Do you agree with Enoch that the U,K should have immigration rules or should 2 and a half billion commonwealth citizens be able to live in the UK as British citizens ?

 

On 9/2/2022 at 2:25 PM, Mac Mickmanus said:

 Cannot believe you didnt know that , that is what the whole speech was about 

Another Google search that fails to propagate the illusion that someone knows more about their beloved (Brigadier) Enoch (MBE) that anyone else. That sort of worked for @transam but he got here first.

 

On 9/3/2022 at 2:02 AM, bert bloggs said:

See the piece in the paper today,road rage black woman with a shovel opens the door of a car and attacks the white guy,then another black guy threatens a person filming it ,lawless Britain.

Oops. There's that "in the paper" thing again.

 

Excuse me while I don't panic.

3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

But hey, we're not racists! much.

Actually I'm not, and why would I care what you think, you're nothing to me.

Just now, MrMuddle said:

Actually I'm not, and why would I care what you think, you're nothing to me.

I'm not asking you to to care what I think, I'm telling you that your comment was racist.

10 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

I read that as well! Shocking.

 

Daily Mail wasn't it? Or the Express?

Its a fact .doesn't matter who says it 

6 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

oh, I'm very happy to point the finger at Australian racism as well. Did you know we massacred a large proportion of the Aboriginal population? We forcibly removed kids form their parents for decades and abused them in institutions. Wanna start a thread about Australian crimes against humanity?

You are doing the anti-Brit thing again.........Thank you, it clarifies stuff from you........????

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

I'm not asking you to to care what I think, I'm telling you that your comment was racist.

This is what I saw...