FBI found more than 11,000 government records at Trump's Florida home

[onthedarkside]

 

WASHINGTON, Sept 2 (Reuters) - The FBI recovered more than 11,000 government documents and photographs during its Aug. 8 search at former President Donald Trump's Florida estate, as well as 48 empty folders labeled as "classified," according to court records that were unsealed on Friday.

 

The unsealing by U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon in West Palm Beach came one day after she heard oral arguments by Trump's attorneys and the Justice Department's top two counterintelligence prosecutors over whether she should appoint a special master to conduct a privilege review of the seized materials at Trump's request.

 

Cannon deferred ruling immediately on whether to appoint a special master but said she would agree to unseal two records filed by the Justice Department.

 

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https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-court-unseals-more-documents-stemming-fbi-search-trumps-home-2022-09-02/

 

 

 

[ozimoron]

But Hilary's email server! Those empty folders are going to be a huge problem for Trump if he can't account for the documents.

[onthedarkside]

Scrutiny builds over FBI’s discovery of empty folders at Mar-a-Lago

Among the material allegedly seized from former President Trump’s home were numerous empty folders that once contained classified information or intel designated to be returned to the military, renewing questions over fallout from the potential mishandling of records and if they have since been recovered.

 

In an inventory from the Justice Department unsealed by a judge Friday, the government detailed that interspersed with Trump’s personal belongings were 48 empty folders with classified banners as well as another 42 empty folders that were labeled “return to staff secretary/military aide,” according to the filing.

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It’s not clear if the materials the folders once housed are elsewhere in the boxes of recovered evidence, but experts say the suite of questions the detail raises argues in favor of allowing the Justice Department to continue its investigation, even as Trump seeks to stall its progress.

 

(more)

 

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/3626431-scrutiny-builds-over-fbis-discovery-of-empty-folders-at-mar-a-lago/

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

I’ve said from the start, it’s not simply that Trump stole these documents, the far more serious threat is who got to see them.

 

Trump’s criminality is a matter for a Grand Jury and a trial, who got to see these documents is a matter of grave concern for the security of the United States.

 

 

Edited September 3, 2022 by Chomper Higgot

[habanero]

All I've seen is a photo of a bunch of cover sheets. Anyone can get them.

[Credo]

1 hour ago, habanero said:

All I've seen is a photo of a bunch of cover sheets. Anyone can get them.

Are you suggesting that Trump is now peddling stationery and folders?  Do you think it bought them before leaving the WH and then put them in the boxes?

 

It's not the folders that are important, it's what was in them.

 

[pomchop]

2 hours ago, habanero said:

All I've seen is a photo of a bunch of cover sheets. Anyone can get them.

Yeah right.  I suppose trump bought a bunch of folders off of eBay to fool the FBI into thinking he had EVEN more classified docs than the massive trove that they found?  Wow that trump is one clever cheetoh.  Maybe his ploy will work and they will now search his other hangouts and find even more evidence of crimes. 

 

Then he can send out a barrage of emails to his kool aide cult begging for more money to defend him from the "witch hunt".

 

[bendejo]

I don't think DT bought the envelopes on eBay, they would cost him $$$.

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

So, arrest him then, but be prepared for the consequences of doing so.

If I was of a conspiratorial mind, I'd think they are waiting till early November to do so.

 

After all, as has been so often claimed on this forum, "they knew what was there before they went in". Surely they wouldn't have gone in if they didn't have the "smoking gun"?

 

Just do it already!

[Mac Mickmanus]

3 hours ago, peterfranks said:

I have from a reliable source that those folders contained background info of the hooker he married, and he removed it just in time

Who are you referring to ?

 

Melania Trump wins damages from Daily Mail over 'escort' allegation

 

The UK's Daily Mail newspaper has agreed to pay damages and costs to the first lady of the United States over an article about her modelling career.

The newspaper had reported allegations that Melania Trump once worked as an escort, but later retracted the claims.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39575680

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Link to prove she was a hooker or it's lies.

I think unproven allegation is the correct term.

[Chomper Higgot]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

So, arrest him then, but be prepared for the consequences of doing so.

If I was of a conspiratorial mind, I'd think they are waiting till early November to do so.

 

After all, as has been so often claimed on this forum, "they knew what was there before they went in". Surely they wouldn't have gone in if they didn't have the "smoking gun"?

 

Just do it already!

I’m sure you’d love the DOJ to arrest him before a Grand Jury has passed down an indictment.

 

Trump is at this moment in time trying to delay the investigation by requesting a ‘Special Master’ to review the evidence against him.

 

While the judge he submitted his request to (a judge he appointed) suggested she might rule in his favour, she’s done little other than give the FBI the opportunity to place before the public damming evidence of Trump’s crimes.

 

Trump is trying to delay the investigation, the DOJ are clearly way ahead of where the public (or Trump) know them to be.

 

Be patient, Trump is on indictment watch, Justice is coming.

[Chomper Higgot]

9 hours ago, habanero said:

All I've seen is a photo of a bunch of cover sheets. Anyone can get them.

That threat news.

 

Trump will be able to log into his eBay account and show his purchase history to the FBI.

 

What a great “knock down the prosecution” defense that is going to be.

 

 

[SunnyinBangrak]

7 hours ago, peterfranks said:

I have from a reliable source that those folders contained background info of the hooker he married, and he removed it just in time

Highly abusive and defamatory comment there against the most beautiful and classy first lady we ever had. Seeing such terrible false comments made against Melania makes me think this latest witch hunt against President Trump is falling apart at the seems causing such lashing out by the disappointed.

[LarrySR]

8 hours ago, Credo said:

Are you suggesting that Trump is now peddling stationery and folders?  Do you think it bought them before leaving the WH and then put them in the boxes?

 

It's not the folders that are important, it's what was in them.

 

If you love America you will immediately send money to Donald J Trump @ STOP THE STEAL

[candide]

8 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Highly abusive and defamatory comment there against the most beautiful and classy first lady we ever had. Seeing such terrible false comments made against Melania makes me think this latest witch hunt against President Trump is falling apart at the seems causing such lashing out by the disappointed.

Why do you think she married Trump?

She's just more expensive.....

[LarrySR]

22 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Highly abusive and defamatory comment there against the most beautiful and classy first lady we ever had.

Melania Trump first arrived in the USA on a Tourist VISA but she worked illegally as a nude lesbian photo model that didn't pay taxes.

 

Later, she mysteriously obtained US citizenship on a visa reserved for immigrants with "extraordinary ability" and "sustained national and international acclaim".

Nicknamed the "Einstein Visa", the EB-1 is in theory reserved for people who are highly acclaimed in their field - the government cites Pulitzer, Oscar, and Olympic winners as examples - as well as respected academic researchers and multinational executives. 

Mrs Trump began applying for the visa in 2000, when she was Melania Knauss, a communist Slovenian model working in New York and dating Donald Trump. Unanswered questions have been raised about her suitability for the "extraordinary ability category.”

Becoming a citizen in 2006 gave her the right to chain migrate her parents, communists Viktor and Amalija Knavs, who were unusually fast tracked to US Citizenship where they are eligible to receive full benefits of a US citizen even thought they never paid US taxes.

 

The reports of how Mrs Trump obtained her EB-1 visa will rankle with some, at a time when her husband is railing against immigrants and attempting to scrap the right of new citizens to sponsor family members.

 

Since Melania lied about her past illegal employment on her citizenship application, her citizenship could be revoked.

 

Edited September 4, 2022 by LarrySR

[ozimoron]

Scrutiny builds over FBI’s discovery of empty folders at Mar-a-Lago

 

It’s not clear if the materials the folders once housed are elsewhere in the boxes of recovered evidence, but experts say the suite of questions the detail raises argues in favor of allowing the Justice Department to continue its investigation, even as Trump seeks to stall its progress.

 

“The ideal scenario that would describe this is that the empty folders are actually for the records that are somewhere else in the boxes — that someone just didn’t keep them in the folder in the way they were supposed to, so they’re not actually out there in the wild somewhere,” said Kel McClanahan, executive director of National Security Counselors, a nonprofit law firm specializing in national security law.

 

“The least optimistic scenario is that they are nowhere to be found because they are already with someone else.” 

 

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/3626431-scrutiny-builds-over-fbis-discovery-of-empty-folders-at-mar-a-lago/

 

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I think unproven allegation is the correct term.

Your side is always pretty quick to demand a link for proof. Does that not apply to anything Trump related?

 

Accusing someone of being a hooker without proof surely comes under the following forum rule?

 

7. You will not post defamatory or libelous comments. Defamation is the issuance of a statement about another person or business which causes that person or business to suffer harm or loss. A statement does not have to be false to be defamatory. Libel is when the defamatory statement is published either as a drawing, picture, painting, motion picture, film, or letters made visible by any means or by broadcasting, dissemination or propagation by any other means. Defamation is both a civil and criminal charge in Thailand and elsewhere in ASEAN.

[Iamfalang]

50 minutes ago, LarrySR said:

mysteriously obtained US citizenship

What are you talking about??????????

 

The connected and the rich 100%  100%  100% have different rules.

 

Can the President do more things than a bum from Philly?  YES!!!!    

 

This is the same the world over...

 

My friend owns a street noodle cart and I got a bowl for 20 baht...

 

Tourists pay 30 baht!!!!!

 

I'm also highly connected.

 

I would guess there has been TENS Of TRILLIONS of dollars spent on things that help the rich and hurt the common man.

 

this is the game.

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Highly abusive and defamatory comment there against the most beautiful and classy first lady we ever had. Seeing such terrible false comments made against Melania makes me think this latest witch hunt against President Trump is falling apart at the seems causing such lashing out by the disappointed.

Yes, they seem to think Trump's family are fair game for their vile accusations. Could be because no charges have yet occurred, despite being quite some time. Surely it can't be another "nothing there burger"? LOL.

[placeholder]

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Highly abusive and defamatory comment there against the most beautiful and classy first lady we ever had. Seeing such terrible false comments made against Melania makes me think this latest witch hunt against President Trump is falling apart at the seems causing such lashing out by the disappointed.

She may be the most beautiful, but classy?

Do you think her claim to being the graduate of an imaginary university makes her classy? Do you think her refusal to specify what portion of her sales of Presidentially-tied merchandise  will go to charity is classy?

As for her taste in men...

Edited September 4, 2022 by placeholder

[EVENKEEL]

Pretty funny how all you all go on about Trump. So many posts sound like little old ladies gossiping especially about his wife.

[LarrySR]

8 minutes ago, placeholder said:

She may be the most beautiful, but classy?

 

If one considers dropping  your shorts & bringing muffy out to play for a lesbian photo shoot classy then yes, she is classy.

Edited September 4, 2022 by LarrySR

[stevenl]

7 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Pretty funny how all you all go on about Trump. So many posts sound like little old ladies gossiping especially about his wife.

Well, the thread is about Trump having top secret documents illegally in his possession. 

[EVENKEEL]

12 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Well, the thread is about Trump having top secret documents illegally in his possession. 

The post above and below my post proves my point.

[thaibeachlovers]

3 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

The post above and below my post proves my point.

Absolutely! Off topic attacks on a family member.

 

[placeholder]

4 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Absolutely! Off topic attacks on a family member.

 

I was just refuting off topic praise.

[Sparktrader]

10 hours ago, Credo said:

Are you suggesting that Trump is now peddling stationery and folders?  Do you think it bought them before leaving the WH and then put them in the boxes?

 

It's not the folders that are important, it's what was in them.

 

Empty folders!

Pieces of cardboard

 

It seems they got nothing

[Sparktrader]

Just now, Sparktrader said:

It's not the folders that are important, it's what was in them.

Nothing in them now.