Takeaways from the ruling granting Trump's request for a special master in Mar-a-Lago probe

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, ullman said:

Thats great news, Vote Trump.

 

PS: hows Biden polling these days?

This is a Trump thread not Biden

[candide]

43 minutes ago, ullman said:

Here's a recent takeaway:

 

Trump Suffers Zero Electoral Fallout From FBI’s Mar-A-Lago Raid: I&I/TIPP Poll

 

According to the highly reputable and accurate I&I/TIPP, Trump has lost not a whit of popularity with Republican voters since the FBI raid.

 

In fact,  he's actually gained.

 

https://issuesinsights.com/2022/09/28/trump-suffers-zero-electoral-fallout-from-fbis-mar-a-lago-raid-ii-tipp-poll/

 

*Trump/MAGA

It's an openly pro-conservative organisation, and, of course, The title is misleading. ????

 

Details matter: they did not ask for whom would you vote for next presidential elections, but for primaries if they were held today. ????

 

So basically it confirms Republicans favour Trump with an increase of 1% which is inferior to the error margin. 

 

It says nothing about the opinion from all US citizen. This we know from other polls, Trump has declined.

 

The poll also shows more people want the Dems to win the midterms than the TOP, and this percentage has increased. Hmm... who could have caused this increase of the Dems popularity?

Edited September 29, 2022 by candide

[Bkk Brian]

 

37 minutes ago, ullman said:

Oh, right, so sorry.

 

Doesn't make any criminal charges that the DOJ and FBI are investigating go away or the rulings of the courts.

Edited September 29, 2022 by Bkk Brian

[ullman]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

 

Doesn't make any criminal charges that the DOJ and FBI are investigating go away or the rulings of the courts.

Criminal charges? What could they be?

 

There are no criminal statutes associated with the Presidential Records Act, and the current records dispute between NARA and Trump don't constitute crimes if you were aware of court ruling, Navy vs Egan in particular. But maybe you can elaborate what criminal statues Trump has violated and what possibly could be responsible for the 20 month delay in these so called criminal activities by the former president?

All this is very peculiar indeed, especially all the delays, the timing. the illegal DOJ leaks of "nuclear secrets".

 

It amounts the a big nothing burger lame attempt to stop Trump again, illegally at that. Fulton county is a nothing burger, J6 is now postponed, Even the ludicrous civil suit against the Trumps will go no where excep into the round file.

 

In summation, if and when GOP assume congress, the landscape shifts and the GOP pit bulls will engage and expose the real crimes of the current admin and Biden's corrupt DOJ. And the FBI whistleblowers, no less than 20 on record to date, some curiously contentious declassified Crossfire hurricane documents somewhere in the middle of the DOJ fiasco and  MAL raid. Just some idle speculation, but remember when Trump declassified the fake Russia hoax documents and records....? You do remember?

It's all bad news but the good news it puts Biden Clinton, FBI and so many others up the creek without a paddle.

Trump is a little crazy at times, but he was smart enough to beat HRC, fix America and DECLASSIFY the very docs used to frame him. He was president with full plenary power to do so. They got <deleted> on Trump, after 5 years of their abuse he's more popular than ever.

Edited September 29, 2022 by ullman

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, ullman said:

Criminal charges? What could they be?

 

There are no criminal statutes associated with the Presidential Records Act, and the current records dispute between NARA and Trump don't constitute crimes if you were aware of court ruling, Nave vs Egan in particular. But you can elaborate what criminal statues Trump has violated and what possibly could be responsible for the 20 month delay in these so called criminal activities by the former president?

All this is very peculiar indeed, especially all the delays, the timing. the illegal DOJ leaks of "nuclear secrets".

 

It amounts the a big nothing burger lame attempt to stop Trump again, illegally at that. Fulton county is a nothing burge, J6 is now postponed, Even the ludicrous civil suit against the Trumps will go no where except the into the round file.

 

In summation, if and when GOP assume congress, the landscape shifts and the GOP pit bulls will engage and expose the real crimes of the current admin and Biden's corrupt DOJ. And the FBI whistleblowers, no less than 20 on record to date, some curiously declassified Crossfire hurrican documents somewhere in the middle of the DOJ fiasco and  MAL raid. Just some idle speculation, but rmember when Trump declassified the fake Russia hoax documents and records....? You do remember?

It's all bad news but the good news it puts Biden Clinton, FBI and so many others up the creek without a paddle.

Trump is a little crazy at times, but he was smart enough to beat HRC, fix America and DECLASSIFY the very docs used to frame him. He was president with full plenary power to do so. They got <deleted> on Trump, after 5 years of their abuse he's more popular than ever.

Are you serious? They are in the warrant

[candide]

11 hours ago, ullman said:

Criminal charges? What could they be?

 

There are no criminal statutes associated with the Presidential Records Act, and the current records dispute between NARA and Trump don't constitute crimes if you were aware of court ruling, Navy vs Egan in particular. But maybe you can elaborate what criminal statues Trump has violated and what possibly could be responsible for the 20 month delay in these so called criminal activities by the former president?

All this is very peculiar indeed, especially all the delays, the timing. the illegal DOJ leaks of "nuclear secrets".

 

It amounts the a big nothing burger lame attempt to stop Trump again, illegally at that. Fulton county is a nothing burger, J6 is now postponed, Even the ludicrous civil suit against the Trumps will go no where excep into the round file.

 

In summation, if and when GOP assume congress, the landscape shifts and the GOP pit bulls will engage and expose the real crimes of the current admin and Biden's corrupt DOJ. And the FBI whistleblowers, no less than 20 on record to date, some curiously contentious declassified Crossfire hurricane documents somewhere in the middle of the DOJ fiasco and  MAL raid. Just some idle speculation, but remember when Trump declassified the fake Russia hoax documents and records....? You do remember?

It's all bad news but the good news it puts Biden Clinton, FBI and so many others up the creek without a paddle.

Trump is a little crazy at times, but he was smart enough to beat HRC, fix America and DECLASSIFY the very docs used to frame him. He was president with full plenary power to do so. They got <deleted> on Trump, after 5 years of their abuse he's more popular than ever.

It's completly incoherent. The Trump administration has appointed a special counsel (Durham), and instead of giving him this evidence, Trump would have kept the document. It's absolutely ridiculous! ????

[candide]

It looks like Trump screwed himself! ????

 

"Requiring Trump’s lawyers to verify or object to the inventory also effectively means making them either affirm in court or disavow a claim Trump has made in public: his accusation that the FBI planted fake evidence. While it is not a crime to lie to Fox News viewers or on social media, there are consequences to lying to a court."

https://news.yahoo.com/giant-backfire-trumps-demand-special-120709247.html

 

The comment from the DOJ! 

"Plaintiff brought this civil, equitable proceeding,” it wrote in its letter. “He bears the burden of proof. If he wants the special master to make recommendations as to whether he is entitled to the relief he seeks, plaintiff will need to participate in the process” that Dearie laid out."

[candide]

1 hour ago, candide said:

It looks like Trump screwed himself! ????

 

"Requiring Trump’s lawyers to verify or object to the inventory also effectively means making them either affirm in court or disavow a claim Trump has made in public: his accusation that the FBI planted fake evidence. While it is not a crime to lie to Fox News viewers or on social media, there are consequences to lying to a court."

https://news.yahoo.com/giant-backfire-trumps-demand-special-120709247.html

 

The comment from the DOJ! 

"Plaintiff brought this civil, equitable proceeding,” it wrote in its letter. “He bears the burden of proof. If he wants the special master to make recommendations as to whether he is entitled to the relief he seeks, plaintiff will need to participate in the process” that Dearie laid out."

Ooops! It seems the judge appointed by Trump thinks differently!

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/29/politics/trump-special-master-request-doj-inventory/index.html

[thaibeachlovers]

17 hours ago, ullman said:

Here's a recent takeaway:

 

Trump Suffers Zero Electoral Fallout From FBI’s Mar-A-Lago Raid: I&I/TIPP Poll

 

According to the highly reputable and accurate I&I/TIPP, Trump has lost not a whit of popularity with Republican voters since the FBI raid.

 

In fact,  he's actually gained.

 

https://issuesinsights.com/2022/09/28/trump-suffers-zero-electoral-fallout-from-fbis-mar-a-lago-raid-ii-tipp-poll/

 

*Trump/MAGA

Only to be expected his popularity would increase. IMO and likely that of many, this is just another witch hunt by those that hate Trump because he dared to intrude into the world of politics against the exclusive "club" that apparently think it's "theirs".

[thaibeachlovers]

14 hours ago, ullman said:

Criminal charges? What could they be?

 

There are no criminal statutes associated with the Presidential Records Act, and the current records dispute between NARA and Trump don't constitute crimes if you were aware of court ruling, Navy vs Egan in particular. But maybe you can elaborate what criminal statues Trump has violated and what possibly could be responsible for the 20 month delay in these so called criminal activities by the former president?

All this is very peculiar indeed, especially all the delays, the timing. the illegal DOJ leaks of "nuclear secrets".

 

It amounts the a big nothing burger lame attempt to stop Trump again, illegally at that. Fulton county is a nothing burger, J6 is now postponed, Even the ludicrous civil suit against the Trumps will go no where excep into the round file.

 

In summation, if and when GOP assume congress, the landscape shifts and the GOP pit bulls will engage and expose the real crimes of the current admin and Biden's corrupt DOJ. And the FBI whistleblowers, no less than 20 on record to date, some curiously contentious declassified Crossfire hurricane documents somewhere in the middle of the DOJ fiasco and  MAL raid. Just some idle speculation, but remember when Trump declassified the fake Russia hoax documents and records....? You do remember?

It's all bad news but the good news it puts Biden Clinton, FBI and so many others up the creek without a paddle.

Trump is a little crazy at times, but he was smart enough to beat HRC, fix America and DECLASSIFY the very docs used to frame him. He was president with full plenary power to do so. They got <deleted> on Trump, after 5 years of their abuse he's more popular than ever.

Excellent post.

[thaibeachlovers]

16 hours ago, candide said:

The poll also shows more people want the Dems to win the midterms than the TOP, and this percentage has increased.

Which thanks to the electoral college doesn't mean much if the increase is in states that already vote Democrat.

[Eric Loh]

4 hours ago, candide said:

Ooops! It seems the judge appointed by Trump thinks differently!

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/29/politics/trump-special-master-request-doj-inventory/index.html

It will not affect the federal appeals court decision to permit DOJ to resume using the classified documents seized from the former President's resort. Canon's ruling was that the former President need not provide court with a sworn statement called for by the special master. 

[stevenl]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Excellent post.

I expected better from you that loving a on every point factual incorrect post.

[heybruce]

19 hours ago, ullman said:

Criminal charges? What could they be?

 

There are no criminal statutes associated with the Presidential Records Act, and the current records dispute between NARA and Trump don't constitute crimes if you were aware of court ruling, Navy vs Egan in particular. But maybe you can elaborate what criminal statues Trump has violated and what possibly could be responsible for the 20 month delay in these so called criminal activities by the former president?

All this is very peculiar indeed, especially all the delays, the timing. the illegal DOJ leaks of "nuclear secrets".

 

It amounts the a big nothing burger lame attempt to stop Trump again, illegally at that. Fulton county is a nothing burger, J6 is now postponed, Even the ludicrous civil suit against the Trumps will go no where excep into the round file.

 

In summation, if and when GOP assume congress, the landscape shifts and the GOP pit bulls will engage and expose the real crimes of the current admin and Biden's corrupt DOJ. And the FBI whistleblowers, no less than 20 on record to date, some curiously contentious declassified Crossfire hurricane documents somewhere in the middle of the DOJ fiasco and  MAL raid. Just some idle speculation, but remember when Trump declassified the fake Russia hoax documents and records....? You do remember?

It's all bad news but the good news it puts Biden Clinton, FBI and so many others up the creek without a paddle.

Trump is a little crazy at times, but he was smart enough to beat HRC, fix America and DECLASSIFY the very docs used to frame him. He was president with full plenary power to do so. They got <deleted> on Trump, after 5 years of their abuse he's more popular than ever.

I find it amazing that so many people can ignore what Trump did while they revel in the thought that he might get away with it.

 

Trump stole government documents.  A huge quantity of government documents.  Some it them highly classified.  When asked to return them he allowed some to be removed but hid others away.  We still don't know how many he might have hidden.

 

It doesn't matter if Trump thought about declassifying them.  Those documents were classified because experts determined that revealing what they contained constituted a serious risk to the United States.  Trump's Jedi mind declassification did not remove the threat these documents posed to the country.

 

Be a real patriot and stop putting Trump before country.

[heybruce]

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Which thanks to the electoral college doesn't mean much if the increase is in states that already vote Democrat.

There's no electoral college in the midterms.

[candide]

8 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Only to be expected his popularity would increase. IMO and likely that of many, this is just another witch hunt by those that hate Trump because he dared to intrude into the world of politics against the exclusive "club" that apparently think it's "theirs".

Have you read the article? This was a question for the Republicans only, asking for whom they would vote if the Republican primaries were held today. So 1% more Republican would vote for Trump at primary elections, well below the margin of error of 2.9%.

The title is misleading (which is not surprising, coming from a pro-conservative organisation.