Hunter Biden could be charged with tax crimes

[candide]

2 hours ago, ogibird said:

How sudden, the FBI leak a story to WAPO that evidence exists of HB crimes. Suspicious timing (reference Tony Bobulinski interview a few days ago) to say the least. The writing on the wall, the long version, is that Biden's days in office are done and he will be shown the door soon by the very people that put him there. Biden will die a slow death with the looming congressional oversight barrage likely to kick-off early next year. The fact that Biden's polls are way down and if they were not so damming DOJ and FBI would be doing nothing about Hunter Biden... So telling.

 

Theres a lot more to this and involves the DOJ and FBI panicking into repairing their very tarnished reputation before midterms and give the appearance they are unbiased and non partisan in justice. Nobody cares about HB, its the Biden family, influence peddling, national security implications, etc. Plus, indict HB and then Trump for something, not sure what, then DOJ and FBI present to the public the appearance of impartiality. There's something more than HB in play here. The leak and message says so much.

There is a much more simple explanation. Hunter will likely be indicted because there is enough evidence of fraud. Same for Trump. Enough evidence is likely being accumulated.

 

Not same for the claims in your post, there is no evidence.

[riclag]

2 hours ago, ogibird said:

How sudden, the FBI leak a story to WAPO that evidence exists of HB crimes. Suspicious timing (reference Tony Bobulinski interview a few days ago) to say the least. The writing on the wall, the long version, is that Biden's days in office are done and he will be shown the door soon by the very people that put him there. Biden will die a slow death with the looming congressional oversight barrage likely to kick-off early next year. The fact that Biden's polls are way down and if they were not so damming DOJ and FBI would be doing nothing about Hunter Biden... So telling.

 

Theres a lot more to this and involves the DOJ and FBI panicking into repairing their very tarnished reputation before midterms and give the appearance they are unbiased and non partisan in justice. Nobody cares about HB, its the Biden family, influence peddling, national security implications, etc. Plus, indict HB and then Trump for something, not sure what, then DOJ and FBI present to the public the appearance of impartiality. There's something more than HB in play here. The leak and message says so much.

The news in a nut shell ! You have reflected what many experts in the know are surmising  imop

[candide]

9 hours ago, ogibird said:

 

 The JV, in which the "big guy" was supposed to hold a 10% share, has been officilly created and registered. This is not secret. Joe was not a shareholder.

 

In summary, you have no evidence.

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2 hours ago, ogibird said:

How sudden, the FBI leak a story to WAPO that evidence exists of HB crimes. Suspicious timing (reference Tony Bobulinski interview a few days ago) to say the least. The writing on the wall, the long version, is that Biden's days in office are done and he will be shown the door soon by the very people that put him there. Biden will die a slow death with the looming congressional oversight barrage likely to kick-off early next year. The fact that Biden's polls are way down and if they were not so damming DOJ and FBI would be doing nothing about Hunter Biden... So telling.

 

Theres a lot more to this and involves the DOJ and FBI panicking into repairing their very tarnished reputation before midterms and give the appearance they are unbiased and non partisan in justice. Nobody cares about HB, its the Biden family, influence peddling, national security implications, etc. Plus, indict HB and then Trump for something, not sure what, then DOJ and FBI present to the public the appearance of impartiality. There's something more than HB in play here. The leak and message says so much. 

 

Biden is so terrified of what the DOJ might come up with that he fired the Trump appointed United States Attorney for the District of Delaware. Just kidding. Weiss is still at his post.

 

As for the leak and message saying so much. That's in the same way a Rorschach test says so much...about the person interpreting it. Not so much about reality.

[Rimmer]

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[Jingthing]

Nobody is above the law.

Democrats respect that.

Trumpists don't. 

[candide]

On 10/8/2022 at 6:18 PM, ogibird said:

 

 

Facts are:

- The JV has been officially registered. Biden was not a shareholder, whatever may have been discussed before the creation of the JV.

- These events date from 2017. Trump was president and the GOP was dominating both the House and the Senate. Are you claiming the Chinese were stupid enough to bribe the wrong guy, who was not holding any political position any more?

[onthedarkside]

Several off-topic and diversion posts have been removed.

 

Continue with off-topic rants, and you'll face a suspension.

 

 

[SunnyinBangrak]

On 10/8/2022 at 6:52 PM, candide said:

 

Facts are:

- The JV has been officially registered. Biden was not a shareholder, whatever may have been discussed before the creation of the JV.

- These events date from 2017. Trump was president and the GOP was dominating both the House and the Senate. Are you claiming the Chinese were stupid enough to bribe the wrong guy, who was not holding any political position any more?

Firstly, you seem to be now admitting that Biden was lying when he stated "‘My son has not made money in terms of this thing about, talking about China." (link 1.) Was this JV you refer to a charity? A link explaining which JV you are talking about would be helpful, there are many JVs and tangled webs between the Biden's and foreign players in China, Russia and the Ukraine.

 

1. https://nypost.com/2022/03/31/wh-claims-biden-didnt-lie-about-hunter-at-debate-despite-reporting/

 

 Secondly your statement "Are you claiming the Chinese were stupid enough to bribe the wrong guy, who was not holding any political position any more?" is misleading. A better question would be, are you claiming the Chinese(and Russian and Ukrainians) were stupid enough to throw millions of $ at the Bidens for absolutely no reason at all? Is it not logical to conclude there must have been some expectation at least that the millions of $ spent would be of some benefit to the spender?

[Chomper Higgot]

Correct me if I’m wrong.

 

It is alleged the DOJ have enough evidence to indict Hunter Biden for false tax filing and false statements during a gun purchase.

 

1. We are not told if the allegations and evidence have been placed before a Grand Jury (its they who decide if their is a case to indict - not the DOJ or the FBI).

 

2. We have absolutely no information as to what the ‘tax’ issues are or to what they relate.

 

Given the above, how on earth did this morph into a pages long regurgitation of rightwing ‘Hunter Biden, Russia, China’ conspiracies?

 

Place the evidence before a Grand Jury, if they hand down an indictment, take it to trial.

 

(Trial of the indicted charges, not random conspiracy fixations).

 

Nobody above the law.

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Correct me if I’m wrong.

 

It is alleged the DOJ have enough evidence to indict Hunter Biden for false tax filing and false statements during a gun purchase.

 

1. We are not told if the allegations and evidence have been placed before a Grand Jury (its they who decide if their is a case to indict - not the DOJ or the FBI).

 

2. We have absolutely no information as to what the ‘tax’ issues are or to what they relate.

 

Given the above, how on earth did this morph into a pages long regurgitation of rightwing ‘Hunter Biden, Russia, China’ conspiracies?

 

Place the evidence before a Grand Jury, if they hand down an indictment, take it to trial.

 

(Trial of the indicted charges, not random conspiracy fixations).

 

Nobody above the law.

 

 

Actually its not even that far advanced, its just a leak that the FBI have enough evidence to present to the DOJ

[EVENKEEL]

Looks like the walls are closing in on HB and perhaps the big guy.

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14 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Looks like the walls are closing in on HB and perhaps the big guy.

There's actually nothing at all from the emails that in anyway suggests the walls are closing in on Joe Biden. Thanks for the inept attempt at likening Joe Biden's situation to the very stark case of another prominent person currently being investigated.

[onthedarkside]

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[candide]

7 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Firstly, you seem to be now admitting that Biden was lying when he stated "‘My son has not made money in terms of this thing about, talking about China." (link 1.) Was this JV you refer to a charity? A link explaining which JV you are talking about would be helpful, there are many JVs and tangled webs between the Biden's and foreign players in China, Russia and the Ukraine.

 

1. https://nypost.com/2022/03/31/wh-claims-biden-didnt-lie-about-hunter-at-debate-despite-reporting/

 

 Secondly your statement "Are you claiming the Chinese were stupid enough to bribe the wrong guy, who was not holding any political position any more?" is misleading. A better question would be, are you claiming the Chinese(and Russian and Ukrainians) were stupid enough to throw millions of $ at the Bidens for absolutely no reason at all? Is it not logical to conclude there must have been some expectation at least that the millions of $ spent would be of some benefit to the spender?

I am not admitting anything (or not). 

 

The JV you are all trying to link to Joe Biden, by stressing that the big guy was supposed to hold a 10% share, according to emails in Biden's laptop. Don't tell me you don't know what you all ranting about.

 

About your second question. I am not interested in speculating.about it. If Hunter has committed an offense, he must be convicted, I have no problem with it. I also have no doubt that the prosecutor appointed by the Trump administration has scrutinized this case. If there is anything to find, he should find it.

 

For the time being, he is suspected of tax fraud, and if he's guilty, charge him. Same as for Trump and his family.

[Jingthing]

My thinking is that if the evidence points to serious indictable crimes, then of course charge him. That goes to his father too in case the evidence points there (after he leaves office).

A political bonus of that would be it will be easier for most of the country to accept the indictments of Trump and his family when it comes time to indict them, as dollars to doughnuts the evidence is there for that.

 

No citizen is supposed to be above the law.

 

However my personal opinion is that very trivial crimes should not be charged regardless of the status of the person.  US prisons are filled with inmates, mostly minorities, convicted of crimes that usually aren't even charged to others.

 

Lighten up. Give warnings and fines, community service, etc.

 

Prisons have become a profit industry and that is just totally wrong. 

 

Next 

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[heybruce]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

My thinking is that if the evidence points to serious indictable crimes, then of course charge him. That goes to his father too in case the evidence points there (after he leaves office).

A political bonus of that would be it will be easier for most of the country to accept the indictments of Trump and his family when it comes time to indict them, as dollars to doughnuts the evidence is there for that.

 

No citizen is supposed to be above the law.

 

However my personal opinion is that very trivial crimes should not be charged regardless of the status of the person.  US prisons are filled with inmates, mostly minorities, convicted of crimes that usually aren't even charged to others.

 

Lighten up. Give warnings and fines, community service, etc.

 

Prisons have become a profit industry and that is just totally wrong. 

 

Next 

...

"Give warnings and fines, community service, etc."

 

I think I would enjoy seeing Trump in an orange vest picking up litter alongside the road even more than seeing him in prison.  And I wouldn't object in the least to also seeing Hunter Biden in an orange vest beside him.

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, heybruce said:

"Give warnings and fines, community service, etc."

 

I think I would enjoy seeing Trump in an orange vest picking up litter alongside the road even more than seeing him in prison.  And I wouldn't object in the least to also seeing Hunter Biden in an orange vest beside him.

Trump's crimes are way too serious far that, but if convicted he won't go to prison. He'll be locked up at Mar a Lago. 

[Rhys]

Syreeah... The Hunter walks free as always, up in smoke.

[Jingthing]

I get the impression that Trumpists assume democrats will react to possible indictments of Hunter or his Daddy the same way they react to possible indictments of Trump and his family members. In other words, threatening civil war.

The hilarious thing is that democrats are totally OK with ANY citizen being subject to accountability if they are convicted of serious crimes.

It's really like there are two countries. One pro democracy. One pro autocracy. 

[Berkshire]

On 10/10/2022 at 1:31 PM, Jingthing said:

I get the impression that Trumpists assume democrats will react to possible indictments of Hunter or his Daddy the same way they react to possible indictments of Trump and his  family members. In other words, threatening civil war.

The hilarious thing is that democrats are totally OK with ANY citizen being subject to accountability if they are convicted of serious crimes.

It's really like there are two countries. One pro democracy. One pro autocracy. 

Exactly.  Most Dems would have no problem with Hunter Biden being indicted if he committed a crime.  But with Trump, his supporters go absolutely batsht crazy, even with legitimate cases of criminality, with cries of "witchhunt," "hoax," "miscarriage of justice," etc.  What's wrong with these people?

[Jingthing]

10 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

Exactly.  Most Dems would have no problem with Hunter Biden being indicted if he committed a crime.  But with Trump, his supporters go absolutely batsht crazy, even with legitimate cases of criminality, with cries of "witchhunt," "hoax," "miscarriage of justice," etc.  What's wrong with these people?

They missed civics class? 

[onthedarkside]

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[thaibeachlovers]

17 hours ago, Berkshire said:

Exactly.  Most Dems would have no problem with Hunter Biden being indicted if he committed a crime.  But with Trump, his supporters go absolutely batsht crazy, even with legitimate cases of criminality, with cries of "witchhunt," "hoax," "miscarriage of justice," etc.  What's wrong with these people?

Perhaps because the dems tried everything they could for 4 years to get him on something, and this is seen as just more of the same, except now it's to stop him standing again in '24.

[Chomper Higgot]

On 10/8/2022 at 3:28 PM, riclag said:

The news in a nut shell ! You have reflected what many experts in the know are surmising  imop

I’ve met a few of these experts.

 

I’m sure we all have.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

7 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Perhaps because the dems tried everything they could for 4 years to get him on something, and this is seen as just more of the same, except now it's to stop him standing again in '24.

Perhaps because there is evidence of serious crimes and the USAG isn’t going to step in to prevent the DOJ doing its job.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

“This Republican obsession with Hunter Biden is a Fox News talking point,” said a Democratic aide who works on investigations and spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the sensitive matter.

 

“Unlike former president Trump and his family, who used their senior White House positions to advance their own financial interests — and whom Republicans have blindly defended — Hunter Biden is a private citizen who is not a member of the administration. Republicans’ hypocrisy is not lost on the American people.”

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/09/16/afghanistan-hunter-biden-gop-readies-its-investigations/

 

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

“This Republican obsession with Hunter Biden is a Fox News talking point,” said a Democratic aide who works on investigations and spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the sensitive matter.

 

“Unlike former president Trump and his family, who used their senior White House positions to advance their own financial interests — and whom Republicans have blindly defended — Hunter Biden is a private citizen who is not a member of the administration. Republicans’ hypocrisy is not lost on the American people.”

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/09/16/afghanistan-hunter-biden-gop-readies-its-investigations/

 

Obviously but if they've got the goods on him they should go ahead and indict.

[bocaBob]

"Most voters suspect the news media buried the Hunter Biden story until after the election and think there’s a good chance that new President Biden was involved in his son’s overseas dealings."

 

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2020/most_think_media_hid_hunter_biden_story_before_election_day

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

  

20 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Obviously but if they've got the goods on him they should go ahead and indict.

 

That would, appropriately, be the U.S. attorney and the Justice Department -- not political revenge seeking Republicans in the House.