Thai immigration withdraw tourist visas of two CNN reporters

[sansaihashbars]

put them all in jail while they wait and go through administrative procedures and then when it is time to deport them send them to the airport in a Thai paddy wagon. 

Edited October 10, 2022 by onthedarkside
trolling name calling removed

[Rimmer]

Off topic post removed, topic is not about the USA

[kingstonkid]

14 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

CNN reporters on tourists visa?? If they had tourist visa it shows again the outdated visa system and labour laws of Thailand. If they are journalists they should have got proper visas. In several articles we could read that these reporters were allowed to enter the scene. So why condemn them if they got permission and why are there picture of others with the same content not being prosecuted? Soft power to attrack tourists???

The only people saying that they got permission were the reporters.

 

If they had legitimately gotten permission, the Thai reporters association would have been up in arms.

 

The reason for a tourist visa is that it would take too long to get accredited. 

 

They are the only international company that went inside.

 

Also considering that they were not accredited reporters and there on a tourist visa it means that they were not reporters but strictly tourists that wanted to get their pictures taken inside of the building.

 

Considering that [CNN] never covered many of the other things happening and rushed to cover a mass shooting that fuels their gun paranoia says a lot.

 

Copied from CNN website

 

"Smears of dried blood still stained the wooden floor of a classroom in northeastern Thailand on Friday, a day after one of the country’s worst massacres unfolded in perhaps one of the most unlikely places.

At the Child Development Center Uthai Sawan, school bags sat uncollected on colored shelves, and photos of children smiled from the wall, clipped into place with pegs near cardboard cut-outs of ladybirds."

 

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/07/asia/thailand-mass-shooting-stabbing-day-care-victims-families-intl-hnk/index.html

 

 

 

Edited October 10, 2022 by onthedarkside
trolling name calling reference removed

[Srikcir]

Regardless whether the reporters were allowed to go into the crime scene for any purpose, they went in with the intention of representing CNN as reporters. 

That violated their tourist visas.

They would have needed a non-immigration M visa. As such they should and were fined, then  deported.

[Swampy999]

2 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

Who said anything about them being on tourist visa's ?

Read the article again, all of it, you might notice the words 'tourist visas' ????????

[J Branche]

From my brief review of responses.  CNN can be biased, has low moral and ethical standards, use the human flaw in our brain that we seek and remember more negative and extreme events.  CNN will only broadcast limited events that are positive and/or of something that benefits the community or society. 

 

We all make our own choses.  I chose to seek and watch news that can benefit me or add value to my life.

[recom273]

I don’t particularly have an opinion on CNN or this tragedy .. but every time the wife switches on TV all I see is Thai TV news crews sticking their lenses into inappropriate situations.

 

I remember watching the Swiss guy who shot the wife’s lover climbing over a wall (could be wrong on the details) - Thai news was in the guys house which was a crime scene, filming the police interview of the Swiss guy in his own house. 

[alex8912]

Another pathetic TRUTH about CNN which several habitual posters here think is the next step to heaven. CNN has more scandals at ALL levels within their own staff that all you have to do is google it!  It's unbelievable!  The ratings have been going south for years but are terrible  now. They want to report mainly on horrible negative things on America as long as they fit their agenda. Then they travel the world including Thailand to illegally take pics and report of another tragedy! Why would anyone think they are credible? 

Edited October 10, 2022 by alex8912

[shackleton]

Probably a few officials sweating if they were paid or bribed to let the CNN. people in ????

[BadSpottedDog]

3 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

Who said anything about them being on tourist visa's ?

It literally says it in the title of the article. The original article also states that they were not allowed to be journalists without a press pass (which they didn't have). Only a tourist visa. Surely they knew this, and didn't care.

[monkfish]

31 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

The only people saying that they got permission were the reporters.

 

If they had legitimately gotten permission, the Thai reporters association would have been up in arms.

 

The reason for a tourist visa is that it would take too long to get accredited. 

 

They are the only international company that went inside.

 

Also considering that they were not accredited reporters and there on a tourist visa it means that they were not reporters but strictly tourists that wanted to get their pictures taken inside of the building.

 

Considering that the Clinton News Network never covered many of the other things happening and rushed to cover a mass shooting that fuels their gun paranoia says a lot.

 

Copied from CNN website

 

"Smears of dried blood still stained the wooden floor of a classroom in northeastern Thailand on Friday, a day after one of the country’s worst massacres unfolded in perhaps one of the most unlikely places.

At the Child Development Center Uthai Sawan, school bags sat uncollected on colored shelves, and photos of children smiled from the wall, clipped into place with pegs near cardboard cut-outs of ladybirds."

 

 

 

Go search social media there are plenty of photo's and video's inside the building and even of dead bodies so someone was letting reporters in or probably just not stopping them. Also why did they only have Tourist Visas is so difficult to get a Press Visa or maybe it takes too long? Personally I don't think they wanted international press snooping around and so weren't giving out Visas.

[Burma Bill]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

the cordon had been put back in place, so the team needed to climb over the fence at the centre to leave.

As a retired UK police forensic scientist, IMO the team's behavior was disgraceful. The first most important action is the preservation of the scene with only authorized investigating and support officers entering the cordoned off area (to prevent contamination). But this is Thailand and the Koh Tao murder scene comes to mind with, IMO, the wrongful prosecution of the two Burmese lads.

Edited October 10, 2022 by Burma Bill
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[Neeranam]

4 minutes ago, Burma Bill said:

As a retired UK police forensic scientist, IMO the team's behavior was disgraceful. The first most important action is the preservation of the scene with only authorized investigating and support officers entering the cordoned off area (to prevent contamination). But this is Thailand and the Koh Tao murder scene comes to mind with, IMO, the wrongful prosecution of the two Burmese lads.

There is no doubt who dunnit. 

[Neeranam]

7 minutes ago, monkfish said:

Go search social media there are plenty of photo's and video's inside the building and even of dead bodies so someone was letting reporters in or probably just not stopping them. Also why did they only have Tourist Visas is so difficult to get a Press Visa or maybe it takes too long? Personally I don't think they wanted international press snooping around and so weren't giving out Visas.

They shouldn't be working on tourist visas, kick them out.

[Neeranam]

7 hours ago, Baron Samedi said:

Couple of weeks in jail for good measure would have been appropriate ????

Disrespectful idiots...

 

Hold your horses cowboy, they had asked to go in and were allowed. 

[NickyLouie]

She's seems about as sincere as a used car salesman.

 

https://twitter.com/ittipat_tv/status/1579099336306479104?s=20&t=YFf2ySW2eueTUeowGCieZA 

[Tug]

well looks like 2 careers ruined to bad seems they thought they had permission personally btw I find cnn one of the better msn outlets at least they support democracy 

[alation]

Reporters know the rules and these two would have known that you don't ask health people but rather you would ask the police in charge of the crime seen they are at, well thats my thoughts on it, also seems that these two like the grisly aspect of this cruel slaughter to defy general protocols worldwide. Break the law suffer the penalty 

[alation]

It is terrible just hearing about these horrific crime's but really wanting to see the pictures of the slain no I don't, praying for the families and friends of all the victims ???? ???? 

[Cake Monster]

I cannot understand why anybody, whether they are Police , Health Officials , or indeed any other person, would have given permission for a News Team to enter the actual scene of such violence and devastation,

and for them to even ask for permission beggars belief.

Such a callous and disrespectful thing to have happened.

[ikke1959]

1 hour ago, kingstonkid said:

The reason for a tourist visa is that it would take too long to get accredited. 

That is also a proof that the Thai visa system is outdated. A visa should not take too long for journalists who already have a place in Thailand. But we all know how it works.

[Andrew65]

4 minutes ago, ikke1959 said:

That is also a proof that the Thai visa system is outdated. A visa should not take too long for journalists who already have a place in Thailand. But we all know how it works.

A work permit or business visa take much longer to get, also 'hassle' and expense, much easier & cheaper & quicker just to go in on a tourist visa. The same would be true in very many countries.

Edited October 10, 2022 by Andrew65

[ikke1959]

I am wondering if the persons/officials who let these people in also will be prosecuted. It is not about improper images, it is, about it seems permissions and visa. So why only the foreigners than? 

[ikke1959]

6 minutes ago, Andrew65 said:

A work permit or business visa take much longer to get, also 'hassle' and expense, much easier & cheaper & quicker just to go in on a tourist visa. The same would be true in very many countries.

Don't need to tell because I know and I know also how long it takes to get a workpermit and how many copies of everything you need. Again outdated systems

[Russell17au]

4 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

Who said anything about them being on tourist visa's ?

Read the linked main story and it clearly states that an immigration official checked their visa's and it was found that they only had "Tourist Visa's" and they were working as reporters for CNN. So they lied on their visa applications as well.

[Andrew65]

4 minutes ago, ikke1959 said:

Don't need to tell because I know and I know also how long it takes to get a workpermit and how many copies of everything you need. Again outdated systems

Over 20 years ago I had to get 120 passport photos for an Algerian work visa. This was before digital photography really took off. 30 strips of 4 photos cost £75, in one of those old photo booths.

Some years later I got a Saudi work permit (an 'agama') for which you HAD to use a visa agent. Cost quite a bit of money and involved an overnight stop in London.

Edited October 10, 2022 by Andrew65

[0815]

Would probably be the first reporters who respect rules without looking for a loop hole.

Go back home !

[mikeymike100]

3 hours ago, fredge45 said:

Seems that, in this case, the idiot was not the ones reporting the story.  The reporters had permission from those they thought had the power to grant the permission.

 

Quite so. However it turns out the cops who gave them permission did not have the authority to do so.

Will they also get prosecuted for exceeding their authority?

[Phoenix Rising]

https://aseannow.com/topic/1274273-cnn-reporters-did-not-intentionally-violate-crime-scene-they-are-fined-5k-each-for-illegal-work/

[DJ54]

IMO the system was bucked … working with proper work permit … hard to believe what their story for doing so is when they start out I of the gate under false pretenses….