Thailand believes condemnation will reduce chances of resolving conflict in Ukraine

[jacko45k]

4 hours ago, micmichd said:

If you want to know how the real German Nazis roamed around in Ukraine in WW2 then read the story about Babi Yar (google for it) 

So, are you claiming little has changed in the last 80 or so years?

[JimGant]

5 hours ago, Flying Saucage said:

Okay, there never was the incident of Tonkin in Vietnam, and everything the US did there was good without any doubt.

Yeah, that was a case of arrogance by the US. And we got our rear end handed to us, largely due to high enemy morale, bolstered by a Soviet supplied air defense system. Those SA-2s and related radar system (heavily manned by blue eyed Soviets) shot down hundreds of Thuds and Phantoms -- and at the end, 11 B-52's.

 

Now, how about some payback! Ukrainian morale bolstered by US and NATO air defense systems (maybe even the Israeli Iron Dome system) could really do the trick. And, like the Soviets in Vietnam (and North Korea), might as well embed some Western advisors. If that torques the Soviets, er Russians off, just tell them to remember Vietnam.

 

Yeah, that might do the trick -- and assuage some ill feelings I still have from the Vietnam air war. So you Ruskies, maybe time to re-think all those "Make the Soviet Union Great Again" hats.

[Purdey]

1 hour ago, smedly said:

Russia would be wiped from the face of the earth - not a bad thing all considered  

I suspect there are innocent people in Russia. Just a thought. 

[bbbbooboo]

Hmmm... how embarrassing to need to constantly save face

[2baht]

4 hours ago, hotchilli said:

Or upset bro Xi

Emperor for life.

[2baht]

3 hours ago, Harveyboy said:

yep all about the cash cow eh Money Money 

The religion is Bahtism, the Bahtists worship Lord Baht! ????

[coolcarer]

35 minutes ago, iwan55555 said:

Some real keyboard warriors here… funny how every little “pro” or “neutral” russian comment gets burned hard…   Being referred as a troll or whatever nonsense, keyboard warriors supporting a Ukraine clown who is just a pawn for warmongering US/Nato… sad..

 

As for complaining so hard about Thailands choice of vote… well everyone could already know Thailand would make this choice… and again its the correct choice they made.  

So by your logic that makes you a rookie pro Putin keyboard warrior after those remarks. 
 

What part of this do you not see. Putin has illegally annexed 4 new regions, 2 of which were never even mentioned before. Zaporizhzhia which he does not even control the main city and has a 75% Ukraine population and Kherson which again he does not fully control which has an 85% Ukraine population.  He’s not there to liberate the ethnic Russians. the only war monger here is Putin.

[JimmyJ]

1 hour ago, joecoolfrog said:

There is no need for western propaganda , most of us have functioning eyes , ears and brains !

Which thread are you referring to?

Edited October 14, 2022 by JimmyJ

[JimmyJ]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

I don't know or really care about the original...

Nor did anyone ask you.

[4MyEgo]

7 hours ago, petey123 said:

reading the above comments, it is clear how effective the intensive "western" propaganda machine has been.    this war with its increasing death and destruction can be laid squarely at the feet of the empire of lies and its puppetry.    the nazi-influenced regime had been conducting wholesale slaughter of russians living in the east of that corrupt country since 2014 and v. putin finally decided it had to end.   he had stated late last year that war could be avoided if the empire/puppetry gave up their plan to push nato up to the russian border by inviting ukraine to join and if the latter allowed limited autonomy to its russian-speaking citizens, per the minsk agreement.    the arrogant parties of the "west"  refused to even talk, seeing the ukraine as a means to weaken russia as a potential rival to the empire.    since then the bankrupt empire (31 trillion plus dollars debt) has been hurling billions into the ukraine to keep young ukrainian and russian men dying, cheered on by the corrupt media and the arms merchants.    as an aside, when the west talks about the importance of maintaining  "territorial integrity," it would be good to remember that the empire intensely bombed serbia to enable kosovo to declare its independence and that, today, the empire's troops are garrisoning a significant portion of northeast syria while stealing syrian petroleum....

good on ya Pavloh and kudos to Thailand for not joining the insanity....      

Finally, someone with the balls to tell it how it is, not what the mainstream media is feeding all, good to see some people are woke.

 

It is what it is and as you said, "the arrogant parties of the west refused to even talk", that says it all.

[2baht]

7 hours ago, pavloh said:

As opposed to western propaganda . 

How's the weather in Vladivostok at this time of year?

[JimmyJ]

2 hours ago, smedly said:

 

as for nukes - go for it - Russia would be wiped from the face of the earth - not a bad thing all considered  

"as for nukes - go for it -..."

 

Could there possibly be a clearer example of how lost most in this thread are?

 

How out of touch with reality can a person be?

Edited October 14, 2022 by JimmyJ

[smedly]

13 minutes ago, Purdey said:

I suspect there are innocent people in Russia. Just a thought. 

I for sure agree with that, I feel really sorry for them, I actually have a couple of Russian friends who are really decent folks, I also feel for those almost 60,000 Russians who are no longer alive because of one mad idiot called Putin, history has had a few of them, lets not get into the Ukraines who have lost their lives and had their homes destroyed - none of which would have happened if mad dog Putin hadn't sent his military across the border into a sovereign country

 

what this war has shown is the pile of junk the Russian military is and they are not even facing the full military might of the west not even 2% of it, it's just so sad that these lives have been lost, for what ?

[smedly]

4 minutes ago, JimmyJ said:

"as for nukes - go for it -..."

 

Could there possibly be a clearer example of how lost most in this thread are?

 

How out of touch can a person be?

Putin mentioned nukes - nobody else

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

Finally, someone with the balls to tell it how it is, not what the mainstream media is feeding all, good to see some people are woke.

 

It is what it is and as you said, "the arrogant parties of the west refused to even talk", that says it all.

What media do you get your news from then? Because in my personal selection that includes Russian media it all points to the same conclusions, a war of choice by Putin with genocidal rhetoric from his generals and officials.

[gejohesch]

9 hours ago, Jerno said:

I call BS. Just pandering to Russia and China, by sitting on the fence. 

Sitting on the fence has always been the approach of Thailand (and Siam before). If I'm not wrong, Thailand pretends to have been neutral during WW2 but :

Thailand declares war on the United States and England - HISTORY

 

Some call it "diplomatic", I call it cowardly and treacherous.

[Phuket Pete]

...and yet Myanmar, currently oppressing their own people, voted for it !  

[Noris]

So let me try to understand this.

 

The Bombing of Belgrade was ok, made good TV and most cheered as kids civilians die.

Killing Saddam Hussein was OK I mean he had WMDs  oh  no he didn't.

Bombing Syria was Good we know our TV said so what more proof is needed

Killing Muammar Gaddafi like a pig dog was good made good TV what?

The Show on TV while Women and kids died in Iraq was all justified

Using Drones to kill in Afghanistan is great, we did it all in the name of?

 

Now this pesky Putin he is very bad man, he stops money laundering Biolabs and stops CIA and The Clintons Bidens and the rest all loose money.

I mean the cheek of it who gave Russia the right to invade the old Capital of Russ.

Give more money to kill people while the rich get richer and the young get killed.

What happened to

Thou shall not kill

 

Do you think for one moment, we have all been conned?

Edited October 14, 2022 by Noris

[Bkk Brian]

8 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

What media do you get your news from then? Because in my personal selection that includes Russian media it all points to the same conclusions, a war of choice by Putin with genocidal rhetoric from his generals and officials.

I'm happy this is keeping you amused following me constantly with your emoji's but if you've got something to say then say it @JimmyJ

[georgesidi]

11 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Very naive.

The only way for there to be a peaceful end game for Putin's folly war is for Ukraine to continue to win decisively. 

Putin's goal remains and will always be to erase the nation of Ukraine forever. ALL of it.

Sorry that the Thai leaders don't see it (they probably do but insist on not making waves).

Are you aware that ,that war has been going on since 2013- 2014. That the Ukrainians have been bombing innocent civilians in the Donbass indescrimanataly  and that the west has turned a blind eye to it, Putin stepped in to stop it, do you think maybe just maybe the Thai Authorities are aware of this.

[Bkk Brian]

8 minutes ago, georgesidi said:

Are you aware that ,that war has been going on since 2013- 2014. That the Ukrainians have been bombing innocent civilians in the Donbass indescrimanataly  and that the west has turned a blind eye to it, Putin stepped in to stop it, do you think maybe just maybe the Thai Authorities are aware of this.

"That the Ukrainians have been bombing innocent civilians in the Donbass indescrimanataly  and that the west has turned a blind eye to it, Putin stepped in to stop it"

 

Link to those false claims?

Edited October 14, 2022 by Bkk Brian

[Jingthing]

22 minutes ago, georgesidi said:

Are you aware that ,that war has been going on since 2013- 2014. That the Ukrainians have been bombing innocent civilians in the Donbass indescrimanataly  and that the west has turned a blind eye to it, Putin stepped in to stop it, do you think maybe just maybe the Thai Authorities are aware of this.

I'm aware the war started back then when dictator Putin illegally annexed Crimea.

I'm aware of violent separatist movements in some Eastern oblasts that Putin has incited and fueled.

Those are all in Ukraine territory 

What sovereign nation does not violently oppose violent separatists within their borders!?!

Thailand certainly doesn't accept that within her borders and hasn't for many decades. 

Are you even aware of the decades long violent conflict in the SOUTH here?

So your theory of why Thailand sucks up to Putin is patently absurd.

No of course I'm not defending intentionally targeting civilians by anyone anywhere.

The one sided way you are painting the conflict in the east is pure propaganda. It's like the blatant lies you would expect from people who think any of the sham referendums are legitimate and actually believing those new four oblasts are now part of sovereign Russia. They are not. They are Ukraine and they are still Ukraine. What happens in Ukraine between Ukrainians is an internal affair. When criticism is due from abroad, it should come, in extreme cases, international actions should be considered such as sanctions, etc. But in no way whatsover should INVASION, OCCUPATION, ANNEXATION, and active GENOCIDE be considered within the range of acceptable international actions in response to internal conflicts within the borders of sovereign nations. Russia is doing all that and Ukraine (with help from the west) has no choice but to defend against them. Ukraine is fighting for the very continued survival of their nation. Putin is fighting for what? Pushing a MILLION Russian men don't think they should be cannon fodder for his bizarre imperialist fixation on Ukraine and insistence that their budding democracy needs to be totally crushed by basically ERASING their entire national identity with no qualms about literal mass genocide of their people and literal flattening of Ukraine's villages and cities including those of Russian ethnicity.

 

Edited October 14, 2022 by Jingthing

[chalawaan]

Ukraine has likely saved Taiwan. 

Because China has gone real quiet lately. 

They're smart enough to see their Putinesqe future if they ever try that stunt. 

[Rhys]

Weed Export partner|?

 

[spidermike007]

Put FM Don on the job. He is such a master negotiator. He can just ask Vlad, please, please can you just stop this war? Pretty please.

[chalawaan]

24 minutes ago, Noris said:

So let me try to understand this.

 

The Bombing of Belgrade was ok, made good TV and most cheered as kids civilians die.

Killing Saddam Hussein was OK I mean he had WMDs  oh  no he didn't.

Bombing Syria was Good we know our TV said so what more proof is needed

Killing Muammar Gaddafi like a pig dog was good made good TV what?

The Show on TV while Women and kids died in Iraq was all justified

Using Drones to kill in Afghanistan is great, we did it all in the name of?

 

Now this pesky Putin he is very bad man, he stops money laundering Biolabs and stops CIA and The Clintons Bidens and the rest all loose money.

I mean the cheek of it who gave Russia the right to invade the old Capital of Russ.

Give more money to kill people while the rich get richer and the young get killed.

What happened to

Thou shall not kill

 

Do you think for one moment, we have all been conned?

Iraq was a disaster, and a price was paid by good men on both sides for it. I don't mean the Daesh terrorists, I mean the Iraqi conscripts.  Saddam was a mass murderer all his rule, and was hanged. Ditto Daffy duck ran out of luck in the drainpipe.  Another murderer, murdered. 

Belgrade, the west went in to stop MUSLIMS being mass-murdered, or at least, to bring their killers to justice. It was done.

The rest of your post is so silly it's not worthy of a response. 

Welcome to the debate anyway,  Vladbot.

Edited October 14, 2022 by chalawaan

[Jingthing]

7 minutes ago, chalawaan said:

Ukraine has likely saved Taiwan. 

Because China has gone real quiet lately. 

They're smart enough to see their Putinesqe future if they ever try that stunt. 

Yes and no. China unless they have a revolution is intent on eventually taking Taiwan. They were never going to be as reckless and foolish as Putin who has really lost the plot invading Ukraine in the first place. They are very patient. 

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, chalawaan said:

Iraq was a disaster, and a price was paid by good men on both sides for it. I don't mean the Daesh terrorists, I mean the Iraqi conscripts.  Saddam was a mass murderer all his rule, and was hanged. Ditto Daffy duck ran out of luck in the drainpipe.  Another murderer, murdered. 

Belgrade, the west went in to stop MUSLIMS being mass-murdered, or at least, to bring their killers to justice. It was done.

The rest of your post is so silly it's not worthy of a response. 

Welcome to the debate anyway,  Vladbot.

As soon as you see the word BIOLABS in Ukraine it's time to put on the tin foil hat deflectors. 

[bobbin]

8 hours ago, petey123 said:

reading the above comments, it is clear how effective the intensive "western" propaganda machine has been.    this war with its increasing death and destruction can be laid squarely at the feet of the empire of lies and its puppetry.    the nazi-influenced regime had been conducting wholesale slaughter of russians living in the east of that corrupt country since 2014 and v. putin finally decided it had to end.   he had stated late last year that war could be avoided if the empire/puppetry gave up their plan to push nato up to the russian border by inviting ukraine to join and if the latter allowed limited autonomy to its russian-speaking citizens, per the minsk agreement.    the arrogant parties of the "west"  refused to even talk, seeing the ukraine as a means to weaken russia as a potential rival to the empire.    since then the bankrupt empire (31 trillion plus dollars debt) has been hurling billions into the ukraine to keep young ukrainian and russian men dying, cheered on by the corrupt media and the arms merchants.    as an aside, when the west talks about the importance of maintaining  "territorial integrity," it would be good to remember that the empire intensely bombed serbia to enable kosovo to declare its independence and that, today, the empire's troops are garrisoning a significant portion of northeast syria while stealing syrian petroleum....

good on ya Pavloh and kudos to Thailand for not joining the insanity....      

petey/Pyotr

 

Are you a rookie member, as stated under your avatar, or a rooskie member?

 

????

[Jingthing]

15 minutes ago, bobbin said:

petey/Pyotr

 

Are you a rookie member, as stated under your avatar, or a rooskie member?

 

????

Not mutually exclusive.

It's no crime to be Russian.

I love my "favorite neighborhood Russian" NFKRZ now in exile in Tblisi. Not to mention the up and coming Zack the Russian also in exile in Tblisi. Or the amazing and brave founder of the 1420 youtube channel Daniil  (street interviews with Russians about the war, etc.) last seen in Rotterdam.

So many Russian people are amazing even though in some sense all share at least some collective guilt for their government. 

But it is a crime to be a Russian war criminal.

Putin is helping to make more and more of those every day.

Edited October 14, 2022 by Jingthing