Two French men in a Porsche charged with serious assault after apparent unprovoked attack on Thai man

[MrJ2U]

3 hours ago, NickyLouie said:

Vid is on Thai Social Media feeds, the Thai guy wanted to fight and he got his ass handed to him.

Wonder what type driving led to them stopping beforehand and if Somchai was acting up.

The car almost running him off the road.

 

I'd be upset also.

 

 

[Gottfrid]

So, doesn´t it sound a little bit different now. Maybe I wasn´t so wrong from start. Looks like the Frenchmen are at fault. who could have thought such thing. Where are all the talkers now? As I said from start! Put them in jail for a couple of years and then deport them. Persona non grata for life.

[richard_smith237]

7 hours ago, MrJ2U said:

The car almost running him off the road.

 

I'd be upset also.

I would be too... Have you seen a video of the Porsche driven by the Frenchman running the motorcyclist off the road ?.... 

 

.... If so, please share it....      

 

Beyond all the debate and disagreement....  we are far more similar than we’d all like to accept given our strong differences of opinion which have originated from misinformation.... 

 

So...  Is there any evidence of the ’The car almost running him off the road’ ????

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[MrJ2U]

7 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

I would be too... Have you seen a video of the Porsche driven by the Frenchman running the motorcyclist off the road ?.... 

 

.... If so, please share it....      

 

Beyond all the debate and disagreement....  we are far more similar than we’d all like to accept given our strong differences of opinion which have originated from misinformation.... 

 

So...  Is there any evidence of the ’The car almost running him off the road’ ????

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Give it a rest.

 

[MrJ2U]

15 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Open and shut case ......  

 

There is one certainty which is an ‘open and shut case’....  given your comments its obvious that you are definitely not educated to a level anywhere close to a ‘lawyer’ to know anything about whether a case could be classified as open or shut !!!!  

They'll most like spend up to 8 years in jail then immediately deported to there home countries and blacklisted for life.

 

Total idiots. 

 

 

 

 

[PoorSucker]

16 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

You failed to read the part where it says the Frenchmen later found in a bar when they were tested for Alcohol, so it cannot be proven that they had been drinking at the time - the driver was not charged with drink driving. 

 

 

 

 

Yes, they intended to leave the Porche and take a taxi home..... 

[richard_smith237]

3 hours ago, MrJ2U said:

Give it a rest.

 

Give what a rest ???

 

…. you don’t like it when your made up idiotic tosh is pointed out ???

[richard_smith237]

1 hour ago, PoorSucker said:

Yes, they intended to leave the Porche and take a taxi home..... 

I agree….  The Porsche owner was very likely going to drive back to his hotel after a night of drinking….

 

But, he can’t be charged for DUI until he does so. 
 

 

 

 

[richard_smith237]

3 hours ago, MrJ2U said:

Give it a rest.

 

It was a simple question….

 

You’ve stated the Frenchman driving  the Porsche ‘almost running the motorcyclists off the road’…..

 

You seemed confident of your statement… so where is there any evidence of that at all ?????? 

[mikeymike100]

3 hours ago, MrJ2U said:

They'll most like spend up to 8 years in jail then immediately deported to there home countries and blacklisted for life.

 

Total idiots. 

 

 

 

 

Whilst I would agree that anyone fighting in public are "total idiots" and certainly the Thai guy and French guy fit that profile.

Why would the driver of the Porsche, that was the French guy, not fighting, spend any time in prison/jail? He did not get involved in the fight, he was a bystander. Really all he could be charged with is DUI, maybe?but it seems unlikely. I'm not sure riding on red plates at night is a criminal offense?

The French guy fighting the Thai guy may possibly face prosecution only if it is proved he started the fight over something and this gets proven in a court of law? If the Thai guy started the fight then the French guy should not be prosecuted?

Right now, all we know is two guys had a fight over something unknown. The Thai guy hit is head and is seriously ill in hospital.

We don't know why there was a fight, or how it started, we only know for sure how it ended?

Edited October 21, 2022 by mikeymike100

[BritManToo]

Doubt the driver will be deported or blacklisted.

1. He didn't commit any crime.

2. He's married to a Thai, and they tend not to deport married foreigners even if they do commit crimes in Thailand.

[Dan O]

19 hours ago, MrJ2U said:

They were tested and we're over the limit.

You'll need to wait until more news but I think your buddies are screwed. 

 

They were not tested at the site they were test after being picked up later at a bar where they were found drinking. There's no way of knowing they were drunk when the situation occured so you may want to revise your comment

[MrJ2U]

1 hour ago, Dan O said:

you may want to revise your comment

They we're at bars drinking before the fateful encounter.

 

Easily just get the bar tab or ask the establishment.

 

There over the top reaction to whatever was said certainly indicates drugs or alcohol.

 

Fleeing the scene also indicates that they were attempting to hide there drunken state.

 

Im sure inspector Clouseau (aka Richard Smith)will be along to refute these obvious conclusions. 

 

Most importantly nothing would have happened if these two had just kept driving to the next bar.  Luckily they didn't run somebody over during there drunken escapades to add insult over injury.

 

There lives as they know it are over.

 

How one stupid encounter could change your entirely life. 

[richard_smith237]

11 minutes ago, MrJ2U said:

They were at bars drinking before the fateful encounter.

Proof ??? Anything other than your assumption ?

 

11 minutes ago, MrJ2U said:

Easily just get the bar tab or ask the establishment.

Don’t you think they’d have cctv of this already ??
 

11 minutes ago, MrJ2U said:

There over the top reaction to whatever was said certainly indicates drugs or alcohol.

Further assumptions… Now you are accusing the French of taking drugs? 
 

11 minutes ago, MrJ2U said:

Fleeing the scene also indicates that they were attempting to hide there drunken state.

Or had just been in a fight so decided to get out of there…. Anyone would do the same. 
 

11 minutes ago, MrJ2U said:

Im sure inspector Clouseau (aka Richard Smith)will be along to refute these obvious conclusions. 

Here I am !!!…,. But yours are not conclusions, they are the baseless and bias assumptions of a flawed mind. 

 

11 minutes ago, MrJ2U said:

Most importantly nothing would have happened if these two had just kept driving to the next bar.  Luckily they didn't run somebody over during there drunken escapades to add insult over injury.

Another assumption/ no proof of DUI. 
 

 

11 minutes ago, MrJ2U said:

Their lives as they know it are over.

Oh… cos they’ll both be in prison for 8 years, right ???

 

11 minutes ago, MrJ2U said:

How one stupid encounter could change your entirely life. 

Finally, something you write which makes sense…  I totally agree. 

Edited October 21, 2022 by richard_smith237

[Dan O]

1 hour ago, MrJ2U said:

They we're at bars drinking before the fateful encounter.

 

Easily just get the bar tab or ask the establishment.

 

There over the top reaction to whatever was said certainly indicates drugs or alcohol.

 

Fleeing the scene also indicates that they were attempting to hide there drunken state.

 

Im sure inspector Clouseau (aka Richard Smith)will be along to refute these obvious conclusions. 

 

Most importantly nothing would have happened if these two had just kept driving to the next bar.  Luckily they didn't run somebody over during there drunken escapades to add insult over injury.

 

There lives as they know it are over.

 

How one stupid encounter could change your entirely life. 

Where does it say they where at a bar before the incident?  The full video shows the Thai man was also instigating the physical assault and continued to attack the French dude who was ealki g away.  Driving away afterward isn't fleeing, it's leaving. The Thai hit his head on the curb which cause the serious injury from the accounts in the news. 

 

I'm not supporting the French guys but it wasn't an all out attack but just a street fight with a terrible endi g

 

Check your facts before claiming rumors. 

[MrJ2U]

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

Proof ??? Anything other than your assumption ?

 

Don’t you think they’d have cctv of this already ??
 

Further assumptions… Now you are accusing the French of taking drugs? 
 

Or had just been in a fight so decided to get out of there…. Anyone would do the same. 
 

Here I am !!!…,. But yours are not conclusions, they are the baseless and bias assumptions of a flawed mind. 

 

Another assumption/ no proof of DUI. 
 

 

Oh… cos they’ll both be in prison for 8 years, right ???

 

Finally, something you write which makes sense…  I totally agree. 

Where your usual cringe worthy laughing emojis? 

[MrJ2U]

17 minutes ago, Dan O said:

Check your facts before claiming rumors. 

"Police said alcohol was detected in both Frenchmen’s systems but no drugs were detected."

 

https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/crime/porsche-driving-frenchmen-who-put-thai-man-in-a-coma-denied-bail

 

 

 

 

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, MrJ2U said:

Fleeing the scene also indicates that they were attempting to hide there drunken state.

Thais often flee the scene then hand themselves in next day to avoid testing.

The Thai police/courts don't seem to have a problem with this behaviour.

Even if you killed a policeman.

 

Did they test the Thai man for drugs/alcohol?

What were the results for him?

Edited October 21, 2022 by BritManToo

[MrJ2U]

4 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Thais often flee the scene then hand themselves in net day to avoid testing.

The Thai police/courts don't seem to have a problem with this behaviour.

Even if you killed a policeman.

Probably be different for two foreigners, CCTV footage, and many witnesses.

 

Bottom line is if they just kept driving to the next bar all of this wouldn't have happened.

 

Everyone lost in this sad saga. 

 

Edited October 21, 2022 by MrJ2U

[Dan O]

23 minutes ago, MrJ2U said:

"Police said alcohol was detected in both Frenchmen’s systems but no drugs were detected."

 

https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/crime/porsche-driving-frenchmen-who-put-thai-man-in-a-coma-denied-bail

 

 

 

 

I guess you don't seem to understand they were never tested at the scene. They were test after they were found later drinking at a bar.   So.......... Check you facts 

[MrJ2U]

10 minutes ago, Dan O said:

guess you don't seem to understand

Why don't you just wait for the toxicology report.

 

They can easily distinguish the amount of drink at the time of the crime even if he's had a few drinks after leaving the scene.

 

In the meantime enjoy your weekend. 

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, MrJ2U said:

Probably be different for two foreigners, CCTV footage, and many witnesses.

 

Bottom line is if they just kept driving to the next bar all of this wouldn't have happened.

 

Everyone lost in this sad saga. 

 

As the Thai lady admitted they were following the porsche, its likely the same events would have happened wherever the car stopped. 

Edited October 21, 2022 by BritManToo

[Dan O]

14 hours ago, MrJ2U said:

Why don't you just wait for the toxicology report.

 

They can easily distinguish the amount of drink at the time of the crime even if he's had a few drinks after leaving the scene.

 

In the meantime enjoy your weekend. 

Not hardly, alcohol testing doesn't work like that. As I already mentioned they were not tested when and where it happened because they left and there have been no reports I've seen saying the were drinking before. They may have but after the fact testing can not prove that. they were found later at a bar drinking and then tested. I'm not defending them and the full story is quite different than the Thai press is posting because their version sells papers and attracts click bait

[Rimmer]

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