Jailed and blacklisted: Frenchmen in attack on Thai man ordered held by court - driver is Hua Hin man with Thai wife

[giddyup]

1 minute ago, 2009 said:

But you said it was 100% is farang's fault.

 

The Thai could have gave kept driving too, by your logic.

The farang isn't in intensive care. If the Thai had stopped, that is still no reason for the falangs to stop unless they wanted a confrontation.

[richard_smith237]

Just now, giddyup said:

If that was true, there's a big difference between exchanging insurance details and putting a guy into a coma.

Agreed… one punch, hit his head on the ground. 
Both guys were fighting, could have easily been the other way around. 
Its stupid to allow any situation to escalate. 

[Screaming]

1 minute ago, giddyup said:

The farang isn't in intensive care.

The French guy has a right to self defense.

[2009]

1 minute ago, giddyup said:

The farang isn't in intensive care.

Obviously. What's your point?

 

My point is: two adults got into a fist fight, but it's being painted as an unprovoked attack.

[giddyup]

3 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Thai guy got off his motorcycle too….  The fight looks to be both guys behaving aggressively. 

Just because the Thai stopped on his bike, how does that make it necessary for the car to stop?

[Sparktrader]

2 minutes ago, Screaming said:

The French guy has a right to self defense.

Grab the leg, do a leg sweep.

[giddyup]

Just now, 2009 said:

Obviously. What's your point?

 

My point is: two adults got into a fist fight, but it's being painted as an unprovoked attack.

You don't seem to grasp that there wouldn't have been a fight if the French guy hadn't got out of the car.

[2009]

4 minutes ago, giddyup said:

The farang isn't in intensive care. If the Thai had stopped, that is still no reason for the falangs to stop unless they wanted a confrontation.

Both parties wanted a confrontation, that's my point.

 

But you are saying the farang is 100% at fault.

 

I am saying it's 50/50.

 

You seem to not understand what we are talking about.

[richard_smith237]

25 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

40 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Just watch the video with an open mind. 
 

Do you see the Thai guy kicking out at the French guy ? 

Post a link

 

The video posted by ‘solidad90’ is on the 5th page of this linked thread…  (can’t copy & post that vid here for some reason).

 

The video shows both the French & the Thai guy getting into it….. 

 

 

 

 

 

[giddyup]

1 minute ago, 2009 said:

Both parties wanted a confrontation, that's my point.

 

But you are saying the farang is 100% at fault.

 

I am saying it's 50/50.

 

You seem to not understand what we are talking about.

I understand there would have been no fight, no confrontation, no one in intensive care unless the French guy got out of the car. Clearly you do not.

[2009]

8 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

Grab the leg, do a leg sweep.

Lol. Calm down, Jet Li.

 

If the Thai guy was throwing fists n feet, then it's fair enough to respond the same way

 

No need to pull out some special moves. And not everyone has these kinds of abilities anyway.

 

[2009]

Just now, giddyup said:

I understand there would have been no fight, no confrontation, no one in intensive care unless the French guy got out of the car. Clearly you do not.

Honestly, this is pathetic.

 

Two grown adults got into a fight. It happens. But let's not just blame one of them only.

[Sparktrader]

2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

The video posted by ‘solidad90’ is on the 5th page of this linked thread…  (can’t copy & post that vid here for some reason).

 

The video shows both the French & the Thai guy getting into it….. 

 

 

 

 

 

Utube wants id to see it stuff that

[Sparktrader]

Just now, 2009 said:

Honestly, this is pathetic.

 

Two grown adults got into a fight. It happens. But let's not just blame one of them only.

Not many grown adults do.

[Sparktrader]

4 minutes ago, 2009 said:

Lol. Calm down, Jet Li.

 

If the Thai guy was throwing fists n feet, then it's fair enough to respond the sane way

 

No need to pull out some special moves. And not everyone has these kinds of abilities anyway.

 

55kg guy

 

I would just laugh

 

If he didnt give up headlock.

[richard_smith237]

6 minutes ago, giddyup said:

You don't seem to grasp that there wouldn't have been a fight if the French guy hadn't got out of the car.

Both stopped to fight, neither were defending themselves, both were the aggressors exchanging kicks & punches…. 
 

What happened before this is unclear. The media is calling this an unprovoked attack… the video shows two guys fighting each other…  

 

There’s more to this story…..   unless the French guys really dud attack a guy because ‘his wife said something nice’ …..  hmmmm…. I don’t believe that for a second. 

[giddyup]

1 minute ago, Sparktrader said:

Not many grown adults do.

Correct. It's usually young males full of testosterone and alcohol.

[richard_smith237]

5 minutes ago, giddyup said:

I understand there would have been no fight, no confrontation, no one in intensive care unless the French guy got out of the car. Clearly you do not.

If the French guy stayed in France….  
 

The Thai guy wouldn’t be in ICU if he didn’t fight…. He is also complicit & not the innocent victim some are making him out to be. 
 

Both parties were fighting each other. Both behaved very poorly… both responsible. 
An extreme and unlucky outcome which could have gone either way with a lucky punch or kick. 

[2009]

3 minutes ago, giddyup said:

Correct. It's usually young males full of testosterone and alcohol.

That darn testosterone. What we gonna do with it?

[richard_smith237]

7 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

Utube wants id to see it stuff that

It’s on asean now… the other pruning thread… can watch the vid embedded ( can on iPad anyway). 
 

The vid shows the Thai exchanging punches & kicks with one of the French guys and completely contradicts the ‘unprovoked attack’ false reporting. 
 

Why the second French guy was also arrested us just odd… he’s just a bystander. 

[Sparktrader]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

The driver of the Porsche was on a one year marriage visa (he has a Thai wife) and was permitted to stay in Thailand until August 26th next year. He lives in Hua Hin with his wife and child or children.

 

He had made a total of 28 visits to Thailand his last one being in May this year.

 

The pair were holidaying in Samui after arriving on October 4th. The 28 year old's wife and children had already returned to Hua Hin. 

 

Dodgy mate ruined Thailand for him

[ukrules]

2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

It's clear that the Frenchman put the Thai in ICU, unnecessarily, what does it matter how it started?  

It makes all the difference in the world, that's why the footage is being hidden.

 

[Liverpool Lou]

21 minutes ago, ukrules said:

2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

It's clear that the Frenchman put the Thai in ICU, unnecessarily, what does it matter how it started?  

It makes all the difference in the world, that's why the footage is being hidden.

Does it?  Putting a man in ICU could be justified depending on how it started?   You're not really suggesting that, are you?

 

"that's why the footage is being hidden".

The footage is being hidden?    How do you know that it is "being hidden"?  You're claiming that it is not available to police investigators (Thaivisa posters are not investigators)?

[john11k]

Who ever fault it was , no need to put a guy in icu ,  obviously drink was a part of it,, 
foreigners wonder why they get a bad name. !! It’s guy / guys like this is the reason 

simple at the end of the day , your a guest in somebody else’s country 

behave abide by there rules   !! 
they simply should be banned from the country for ten or so years. 
 

 

[sambum]

 "He lives in Hua Hin with his wife and child or children."

The pair were holidaying in Samui after arriving on October 4th."

"The 28 year old's wife and children had already returned to Hua Hin."

 

Does he not know? 

[khunpa]

WATCH THE WHOLE VIDEO!!!!
 

Funny how the media totally ignore that this was NOT an unmotivated attack, but a 1 on 1 fight and the Thai-guy kept on wanting to fight after he had been knocked down once. 

 

Only one Farang was involved in the FAIR fight, so what has the other guy done?

 

I hate fighting and violence but after watching the video, I really think is being reported completely wrong.
 

The Thai-guy was not some innocent victim as he is made to be. Hope he survives and learns to stop picking fights.

 

 

 

[richard_smith237]

3 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Does it?  Putting a man in ICU could be justified depending on how it started?   You're not really suggesting that, are you?

 

"that's why the footage is being hidden".

The footage is being hidden?    How do you know that it is "being hidden"?  You're claiming that it is not available to police investigators (Thaivisa posters are not investigators)?

The intentions of what is being discussed is incorrect. 
 

The French guy didn’t ‘put’ the Thai guy in ICU…. Not in the manner which is being discussed here… the consequence was not an intention…. It was a simply a very unfortunate consequence of two guys getting into a fight. 
 

It could have been the French guy who fell very badly hitting his head on the curb stone. 
 

The Thai guy was extremely unlucky to fall in such a manner.
 

 

[richard_smith237]

7 minutes ago, john11k said:

Who ever fault it was , no need to put a guy in icu ,  obviously drink was a part of it,, 
foreigners wonder why they get a bad name. !! It’s guy / guys like this is the reason 

simple at the end of the day , your a guest in somebody else’s country 

behave abide by there rules   !! 
they simply should be banned from the country for ten or so years. 
 

 

Dumb post….    Visitor or otherwise no one should behave like that….

 

The Thai guy was also fighting, he doesn’t need to abide by the same rules you expect the foreigner to abide by ? 

[harrycallahan]

I did kickboxing and that final move by the French guy was known to us as the 'put the guy in ICU'. Every single time it will put the guy in ICU. The Thai guy was intentionally restraining his offense with non-ICU kicks and punches but the French guy took it to the next level and therfore should be judged differently. 

[mikeymike100]

"Both men will be recommended for blacklisting, said Col Supharik."

 

For good, I hope!!