Get tough RTP chief calls to ban Chinese drug taking tourists for life!

[webfact]

 

Fallout from the raid in the Yannawa police jurisdiction in Bangkok that found 104 Chinese drug taking tourists - and opened several large cans of worms - continued in the Thai media.

 

Siam Rath reported that the Yannawa station chief had been ordered to report for paper shuffling at Met Region HQ 6 while an investigation into dereliction of duty takes its course.

 

As far as the Chinese tourists are concerned Gen Damrongsak Kittipraphat, RTP chief, said the force has the power to not only deport them but blacklist them for life.

 

Damrongsak said he had more tough measures to come under PM Prayuth Chan-ocha's crime drives. 

 

ASEAN NOW notes that Damrongsak may have a lot more on his plate than banning a few Chinese tourists.

 

Claims are whirling around the Thai media that the illegal business in Yannawa is the tip of a "Zero Dollar" iceberg.

 

Firebrand former MP Chuwit Kamolwisit has arranged a dossier of allegations for poster boy cop Big Joke to investigate; these center on allegations that state officials are being bribed to allow illegal tourism activities. 

 

Chuwit claimed that the Chinese could leave their drugs behind the counter for next time like people leave whisky at a club. 

 

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[ikke1959]

Only for the Chinese?? In my village I know several drugsdealers who are caught several times but always the parents r relatives have to pay between 10 and 50k to free them with no charges...They are not Chinese  

[Laughing Gravy]

18 minutes ago, webfact said:

Siam Rath reported that the Yannawa station chief had been ordered to report for paper shuffling at Met Region HQ 6 while an investigation into dereliction of duty takes its course

You couldn't make it up.????

[Orinoco]

Thailand -4.0

Thais don't take Drugs you know.

Were the drugs inside Thailand !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What a joke this is all turning into.

Legalize all drugs.

 

 

 

[JonnyF]

Oh dear. All those TAT eggs in the Chinese basket and you got zero dollar tours, drug parties and Xi's zero Covid policy making it very difficult for Chinese to take vacations overseas.

 

Time for a rethink?

[Liverpool Lou]

43 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

1 hour ago, webfact said:

Siam Rath reported that the Yannawa station chief had been ordered to report for paper shuffling at Met Region HQ 6 while an investigation into dereliction of duty takes its course

You couldn't make it up

You could make it up, and it was made up, the original article in Siam Rath did not report it as "he was ordered to report for paper shuffling".

[Liverpool Lou]

13 minutes ago, Orinoco said:

Thais don't take Drugs you know.

Where was that claimed?

[BarraMarra]

Bit of bad publicity aimed at the Chinese lately. Is it because their golden Egg has stopped laying so its time to moan about them for not coming to their rescue? oh they have a new goose from Malaysia so they don't need the yen.

[Gweiloman]

3 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Bit of bad publicity aimed at the Chinese lately. Is it because their golden Egg has stopped laying so its time to moan about them for not coming to their rescue? oh they have a new goose from Malaysia so they don't need the yen.

Yen is the currency of Japan. The Chinese currency is the Yuan (or Renminbi).

[BarraMarra]

6 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

Yen is the currency of Japan. The Chinese currency is the Yuan (or Renminbi).

Don't Quibble Gweiloman ok the cash in their pockets.

[ezzra]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

not only deport them but blacklist them for life.

Ban 104 chinees out of how many? like 1,452,159,617 people? (according to google) that will hurt them plenty i'm sure...

[Laughing Gravy]

46 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

You could make it up, and it was made up, the original article in Siam Rath did not report it as "he was ordered to report for paper shuffling".

I can always rely on the ultimate apologist to defend the police here. I quoted what was there. You should learn to get over it.

[KhunLA]

Why just Chinese ... blacklist all convicted of any felony, FOR LIFE.  

 

Plenty of criminals here, locals & expats already, don't need to import known ones ????

[rbkk]

50 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Don't Quibble Gweiloman ok the cash in their pockets.

Yellow card ????

[tomacht8]

Gen Damrongsak Kittipraphat, RTP chief, said the force has the power to not only deport them but blacklist them for life.

 

I wonder. Is the police here both investigators and judges in one person?

 

Normally, the police investigate and provide evidence, the prosecutor files charges, and a court decides the sentence.

 

The statement that the police alone can decide on a blacklisting sounds more than questionable.

[champers]

Prayut wants Xi to come to APEC next month, yet in both Pattaya and now Bangkok the police are demonising the Chinese and stirring up anti-Chinese sentiment.

The police are tuned out politically and their motivation seems to be brown envelopes or the amounts inside them.

In Pattaya the mostly Thai clentele left the raided club without being drug tested. The club's Chinese owner is being demonised (maybe justifiably).

In Bangkok all the mostly Chinese clientele can't leave the building and all get drug tested.

[JeffersLos]

One rule for Chinese tourists, another rule for Thai bus drivers. 

[JeffersLos]

7 minutes ago, tomacht8 said:

Gen Damrongsak Kittipraphat, RTP chief, said the force has the power to not only deport them but blacklist them for life.

 

I wonder. Is the police here both investigators and judges in one person?

 

Normally, the police investigate and provide evidence, the prosecutor files charges, and a court decides the sentence.

 

The statement that the police alone can decide on a blacklisting sounds more than questionable.

Immigration are a branch of the RTP.

 

If the RTP chief tells RTP immigration officers to deport and blacklist certain non-Thais for certain behavior, then deport and blacklist them they can. 

[BarraMarra]

Like i said Money Number One . The cake will be already smoothed over with icing. The BKK Administration won't rock the boat with the Chinese Consulate in BKK, if any threats are made to deport Chinese Nationals.

[tomacht8]

39 minutes ago, JeffersLos said:

Immigration are a branch of the RTP.

 

If the RTP chief tells RTP immigration officers to deport and blacklist certain non-Thais for certain behavior, then deport and blacklist them they can. 

That would then be legally on shaky ground. If a cop doesn't like your nose and can then deport and blacklist you without a court decision and court order, that would be the completion of an arbitrary police state.

[Cake Monster]

A couple of things spring to mind about these " Tourists '

It was reported through another source, that a large number of Luxury Cars , including a Roller were seized during the Raid.

Where do these " Tourists " manage to rent such vehicles in Thailand.

And secondly

Why ban them ?, or Deport them ?

Do as they would do to a Thai being caught with Drugs or even a White Falang

Throw them in the Bangkok Hilton for a few Years.

 

[JeffersLos]

16 minutes ago, tomacht8 said:

That would then be legally on shaky ground. If a cop doesn't like your nose and can then deport and blacklist you without a court decision and court order, that would be the completion of an arbitrary police state.

You obviously don't understand.

 

Immigration are a branch of the royal Thai police. 

 

A regular 'cop' cannot deport or blacklist you. The immigration department, which is a department of the RTP, can.

 

 

[connda]

Why not deport drug taking Thais forever?

[tomacht8]

38 minutes ago, JeffersLos said:

You obviously don't understand.

 

Immigration are a branch of the royal Thai police. 

 

A regular 'cop' cannot deport or blacklist you. The immigration department, which is a department of the RTP, can.

 

 

I know the structures of the police apparatus. I doubt that even the immigration police have the right to expel someone and blacklist them for life without a court order if it's not a visa violation at the border.

 

What bothers me is that the chief of police is trumpeting his apparent power here, although it contradicts the usual legal procedure for drug offenses by foreigners. My wife's cosin is a well-known criminal attorney and has handled dozens of such drug cases.

 

That's why I'm surprised that, according to the police chief, now punishments without a court hearing for drug offenses should only be determined by the police. And that is wrong and dangerous  from my point of view.

[Liverpool Lou]

3 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

4 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

You could make it up, and it was made up, the original article in Siam Rath did not report it as "he was ordered to report for paper shuffling".

I can always rely on the ultimate apologist to defend the police here. I quoted what was there. You should learn to get over it.

I can always rely on you to not read what I wrote and then comment on a fallacy.  There was no defence of the police in my comment.   There was an observation on the very loose interpretation of the original article that did not mention paper shuffling at all.   You should learn to read what I actually wrote.

[BayArea]

8 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

Bit of bad publicity aimed at the Chinese lately. Is it because their golden Egg has stopped laying so its time to moan about them for not coming to their rescue? oh they have a new goose from Malaysia so they don't need the yen.

the Thai will not stray too far from their Chinese masters. it's a temporary hiccup until the hoard returns then everything will be restored.

[Gweiloman]

24 minutes ago, BayArea said:

the Thai will not stray too far from their Chinese masters. it's a temporary hiccup until the hoard returns then everything will be restored.

Wonder if they will oust the barbarians.

[daveAustin]

“Get tough RTP chief calls to ban Chinese drug taking tourists for life!”

 

Any better?

[BonMot]

How nice.

 

White skinned farang get jail terms and life banishment.

 

 

[BonMot]

10 hours ago, champers said:

Prayut wants Xi to come to APEC next month, yet in both Pattaya and now Bangkok the police are demonising the Chinese and stirring up anti-Chinese sentiment.

The police are tuned out politically and their motivation seems to be brown envelopes or the amounts inside them.

In Pattaya the mostly Thai clentele left the raided club without being drug tested. The club's Chinese owner is being demonised (maybe justifiably).

In Bangkok all the mostly Chinese clientele can't leave the building and all get drug tested.

No one is being demonized. There was clearly a grocery list of serious illegal activities going on. Certainly no Chinese official would tell them to go easy on the lot of them purely because the are Chinese. That's ridiculous. Serious laws were apparently broken. I doubt Xi would say anything but they should pay the price. Moreover, as the whole debacle was writ large it's possible the Chinese even take stock on their end. Sheeeesh ..