Lack of psychiatrists leaves Thailand grappling with rising suicides, depression

[webfact]

 

The number of people in Thailand suffering from mental problems rose from 1.3 million in 2015 to 2.3 million last year, while the number of suicides is also on the increase.

 

These alarming figures suggest the country’s mental health is a ticking time bomb that needs to be tackled urgently to avoid the disastrous effects of an explosion.

 

Wasted lives

 

One mother told Thai PBS World of her anguish as she watches her son’s life spiral out of control after he chose a path of drug abuse to deal with his mental issues.

 

“I noticed the change in his behavior, but could not afford treatment,” the mother said on condition of anonymity.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/lack-of-psychiatrists-leaves-thailand-grappling-with-rising-suicides-depression/

 

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[spidermike007]

A friend of mine who is a paramedic in Bangkok, told us she is astonished at the number of homes they show up to, where multiple family members have taken themselves and left a note that they just could not find a way to make ends meet anymore. They are doing their best to hide this, and the media rarely reports on it. The police warned her if she shared any of the photos, she would be arrested. 

[RichardColeman]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

The number of people in Thailand suffering from mental problems rose from 1.3 million in 2015 to 2.3 million last year, while the number of suicides is also on the increase.

Seems just co-incidence then that this coincides with the latest Junta takeover, banning of free speech, deliberate junta destruction of the economy.

[ikke1959]

In the meantime the rich are richer and the poor poorer and no help in a hospital or shelter or whatever.. Thai elite is only helping themselves and don't care about its people.. Shameful as they write that there 4,4 million Thais living with less than 3.000 THB a month and I am wondering how many live with less than 8.000 THB because that is very poor too...Schools are recruiting teachers for 6000 THB a month while budget for education is huge... Where goes the money too and how long will people take it?

[Tarteso]

Actually Thailand has only 845 practicing psychiatrists – or about one for every 100,000 people. However, an estimated one in every 2,721 people require counseling.

 

 

Prior to the period of King Rama V of Thailand, Thai people traditionally believed that mental illness was caused by possession, black magic, or other supernatural forces. Thus, the treatments of these illnesses were often rooted in religious beliefs and commonly included whipping, the use of holy water by Buddhist monks, or torture until the symptoms disappeared.

 

If they lack a Mental Health System, if they lack an up-to-date Education System, they will continue to use amulets and monks or finally, in many cases suicide, as the only and last solution, apart of alcohol, drugs or anything else that alters their psychic condition looking falsely for peace of mind.

 

 

Edited October 31, 2022 by Tarteso

[steven100]

I think being a psychiatrists in Thailand one would have permanent employment forever without really ever solving a single patients problem.   ????

[Sparktrader]

1 hour ago, ikke1959 said:

In the meantime the rich are richer and the poor poorer and no help in a hospital or shelter or whatever.. Thai elite is only helping themselves and don't care about its people.. Shameful as they write that there 4,4 million Thais living with less than 3.000 THB a month and I am wondering how many live with less than 8.000 THB because that is very poor too...Schools are recruiting teachers for 6000 THB a month while budget for education is huge... Where goes the money too and how long will people take it?

Thailand is overpopulated like Indonesia and Japan. Small land mass.

 

 

 

 

[nobodysfriend]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

The number of people in Thailand suffering from mental problems rose from 1.3 million in 2015 to 2.3 million last year

And that is only the reported cases ...

 

5 hours ago, webfact said:

the country’s mental health is a ticking time bomb that needs to be tackled urgently to avoid the disastrous effects of an explosion.

As Tarteso mentioned above , the key is in education , and the prospect of a better future ... but , in Thailand , many do seem to prefer the daily dose of Yaba and alcohol . Living just from day to day without any will or power to change this , they are bound for depression and mental problems . 

[Sparktrader]

5 minutes ago, nobodysfriend said:

And that is only the reported cases ...

 

As Tarteso mentioned above , the key is in education , and the prospect of a better future ... but , in Thailand , many do seem to prefer the daily dose of Yaba and alcohol . Living just from day to day without any will or power to change this , they are bound for depression and mental problems . 

Depression rates are very high in the west. Society is more detached, less warm.

 

Living day to day is actually a good method for beating depression. A lot of depression is worrying about things outside your control. You can only control today.

 

Drugs and alcohol will make depression worse though.

 

 

 

 

[OneMoreFarang]

2 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Seems just co-incidence then that this coincides with the latest Junta takeover, banning of free speech, deliberate junta destruction of the economy.

I guess the red shirts had no sponsor anymore and they could work or just kill themselves. They choose the easier alternative.

 

Not that I am sure that my interpretation is correct. It is based on hot air just like your interpretation.

Just blame the others. They must be responsible! 

[zyphodb]

2 hours ago, Sparktrader said:

Thailand is overpopulated like Indonesia and Japan. Small land mass.

 

 

 

 

How do you work that out? Thailand's the size of France, with the population of the UK...

[Sparktrader]

9 minutes ago, zyphodb said:

How do you work that out? Thailand's the size of France, with the population of the UK...

Uk more organised for things. Less poverty.

Edited October 31, 2022 by Sparktrader

[Sparktrader]

10 countries with the highest prevalence of depression

1. Ukraine, 6.3%
2. Australia, 5.9%
3. Estonia, 5.9%
4. USA, 5.9%
5. Brazil, 5.8%
6. Portugal, 5.7%
7. Greece, 5.7%
8. Belarus, 5.6%
9. Finland, 5.6%
10. Lithuania, 5.6%

https://www.factsinstitute.com/ranking/countries-with-the-highest-prevalence-of-depression/

 

10 countries with the lowest prevalence of depression

1. Solomon Islands, 2.9%
2. Papua New Guinea, 3.0%
3. Timor-Leste, 3.0%
4. Kiribati, 3.1%
5. Micronesia, 3.1%
6. Vanuatu, 3.1%
7. Laos, 3.2%
8. Samoa, 3.2%
9. Tonga, 3.2%
10. Nepal, 3.2%

Mostly hot countries low depression,vitamin d, getting outdoors

Edited October 31, 2022 by Sparktrader

[Fat is a type of crazy]

2 hours ago, Sparktrader said:

Thailand is overpopulated like Indonesia and Japan. Small land mass.

 

 

 

 

Off topic but Indonesia 77 and Thailand 80 are not particularly densely populated out of 195 countries. Indonesia is large being 15th biggest in the world.

[Fat is a type of crazy]

7 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

10 countries with the highest prevalence of depression

1. Ukraine, 6.3%
2. Australia, 5.9%
3. Estonia, 5.9%
4. USA, 5.9%
5. Brazil, 5.8%
6. Portugal, 5.7%
7. Greece, 5.7%
8. Belarus, 5.6%
9. Finland, 5.6%
10. Lithuania, 5.6%

https://www.factsinstitute.com/ranking/countries-with-the-highest-prevalence-of-depression/

I think other countries would be higher where they don't feel free to speak. Still not good that Australia is so high. I wonder what it is. Could be rural folk. Or kids on computers. 

Edited October 31, 2022 by Fat is a type of crazy

[Sparktrader]

Just now, Fat is a type of crazy said:

I think other countries would be higher where they don't feel free to speak. Still not good that Australia is so high. I wonder what it is. 

High cost of living

Boring

No culture

Full of bogans

The country is run by parasites

[Sparktrader]

4 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

Off topic but Indonesia 77 and Thailand 80 are not particularly densely populated out of 195 countries. Indonesia is large being 15th biggest in the world.

Still small though. Not many large countries. Oz is large but 90% unliveable.

[Sparktrader]

Lao people are happy. Simple life.

[Fat is a type of crazy]

7 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

High cost of living

Boring

No culture

Full of bogans

The country is run by parasites

The cost of living is a bit bad.

I remember there being more bogans before, i.e. the seventies as a kid, and the eighties and many bogans now are cashed up due to big pay for trades. Do you think bogans are depressed or cause depression in others.

I am suspicious of culture. Aspects are nice for sure  but when I hear the word culture I often think of something created by those in power to give wishes and dreams but not a good reality to those with no power. 

Surely much worse political and public servant parasites in Thailand. 

Edited October 31, 2022 by Fat is a type of crazy

[Sparktrader]

4 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

The cost of living is a bit bad.

I remember there being more bogans before, i.e. the seventies as a kid, and the eighties and many bogans now are cashed up due to big pay for trades. Do you think bogans are depressed or cause depression in others.

I am suspicious of culture. Aspects are nice for sure  but when I hear the word culture I often think of something created by those in power to give wishes and dreams but not a good reality to those with no power. 

Surely much worse political and public servant parasites in Thailand. 

Bogans seem happy being bogans. I think they cause depression in others being bogans. Non bogans dont want to be near them.

 

Thailand has food culture, friendly women. Go to glasses shop or dr flirt with nurses or assistant. In Oz they think you creepy for being a man.

 

I see more happy people in Thailand. The bad Thais seem to be into drugs.

[hotchilli]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

The number of people in Thailand suffering from mental problems rose from 1.3 million in 2015 to 2.3 million last year, while the number of suicides is also on the increase.

Well lets face it over the last 7 to 8 years there hasn't been much to look forward to.

For some the stress of everything going backwards leads many to drink/drugs and unfortunately some to an early grave.

[Sparktrader]

3 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

Well lets face it over the last 7 to 8 years there hasn't been much to look forward to.

For some the stress of everything going backwards leads many to drink/drugs and unfortunately some to an early grave.

7 or 8 years? Covid lasted 2.5 years.

[hotchilli]

4 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

7 or 8 years? Covid lasted 2.5 years.

I wasn't concentrating solely on Covid..

more of another coincidental time-frame.

[actonion]

This loss of face thing  i think must play a role  in built up anger / frustration, causing them to expolde  after they cant take the loss of face thing anymore...

[ikke1959]

My sister in laws says she is an psychologist, ( But I don't believe it anyway), but she says she can't find a job... Now it seems very strange to me, as so many Thais have mental problems caused by several problems and sometimes reslting in alcoholism, drugs, or suicides..Never heard of groups for people to talk about sexual abuse, victims of accidents, or traumatic experiences, people who caused a deadly accident, gambling addicted etc etc.. Why??? These people need help....   

[ChrisY1]

5 hours ago, Sparktrader said:

High cost of living

Boring

No culture

Full of bogans

The country is run by parasites

I think that just about covers it!

[steven100]

10 hours ago, Sparktrader said:

High cost of living

Boring

No culture

Full of bogans

The country is run by parasites

are you referring to Logan & Ipswich near Brisbane ?

[scorecard]

13 hours ago, Tarteso said:

Actually Thailand has only 845 practicing psychiatrists – or about one for every 100,000 people. However, an estimated one in every 2,721 people require counseling.

 

 

Prior to the period of King Rama V of Thailand, Thai people traditionally believed that mental illness was caused by possession, black magic, or other supernatural forces. Thus, the treatments of these illnesses were often rooted in religious beliefs and commonly included whipping, the use of holy water by Buddhist monks, or torture until the symptoms disappeared.

 

If they lack a Mental Health System, if they lack an up-to-date Education System, they will continue to use amulets and monks or finally, in many cases suicide, as the only and last solution, apart of alcohol, drugs or anything else that alters their psychic condition looking falsely for peace of mind.

 

 

Qualified. How well qualified? 

 

Farang buddy was put in contact with a farang 'psychologist' a couple of years back in Bkk.

 

Each session 2,000Baht payable b4 session starts. After a number of sessions patient asked for a report using the xxx assessment protocol plus evidence of Dr's qualifications, as requested by his health insurance providor.

 

Psychologist disappeared, Office of condo where he was renting discovered he had given them a copy of a fake passport.

[Sparktrader]

49 minutes ago, steven100 said:

are you referring to Logan & Ipswich near Brisbane ?

Whole country

[Sparktrader]

2 hours ago, scorecard said:

Qualified. How well qualified? 

 

Farang buddy was put in contact with a farang 'psychologist' a couple of years back in Bkk.

 

Each session 2,000Baht payable b4 session starts. After a number of sessions patient asked for a report using the xxx assessment protocol plus evidence of Dr's qualifications, as requested by his health insurance providor.

 

Psychologist disappeared, Office of condo where he was renting discovered he had given them a copy of a fake passport.

Farangs allowed to do that work in Thailand? Alarm bells 2000 baht upfront plus farang.

 

He probably watched Oprah and Dr Phil for ideas.