Emergency Room admissions for cannabis up 566% as parties call for it to again be criminalised

[zzzzz]

meanwhile they dont tell ya, accidents and people being charged for drunk driving has dropped in half   ????

[JBChiangRai]

5 minutes ago, zzzzz said:

meanwhile they dont tell ya, accidents and people being charged for drunk driving has dropped in half   ????

Please quote your evidence

[jmccarty]

‘Recently, three people were admitted to Siriraj Hospital after ingesting cookies which contained more tetrahydrocannabinol than what is legally allowed under Thai laws,’ Dr Chariya explained.

 

Hmm, maybe I will start accepting those cookies I keep getting offered on the net!

[Orinoco]

22 minutes ago, ikke1959 said:

.No wonder there are problems , but this is common in Thailand. First do , than think

I'm not 100% convinced the latter always happens here. 

 

 

Edited November 7, 2022 by Orinoco

[khunjeff]

2 hours ago, Classic Ray said:

I agree, the statistic of 566% is meaningless without actual trustworthy numbers, which I cannot find anywhere. It could be the difference between 1 & 7. 

"He pointed out that last year 3% of all Emergency Room (ER) admissions to Thai hospitals were linked to cannabis or marijuana ingestion. 

That figure, so far, for this year, has risen to 17% or nearly 6 times what it was."

 

Even the 3% figure is absurd, but a claim that 17% of emergency room admissions are linked to weed is utterly ridiculous. Studies in the US have indicated that only about 0.1% of hospital admissions there are caused by marijuana, and there's no reason to think that the situation here would be radically different.

 

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/jul/06/patrick-kennedy/has-marijuana-caused-emergency-room-visits-skyrock/

[fvw53]

3 hours ago, TheFishman1 said:

It’s really strange that Amsterdam it’s been legal for so many years I can’t even remember and you never hear anything about a hospitalization in the countries of some goofy amount only in Thailand do you hear statistic numbers like this and many states in America is the goal you don’t hear hospitalization is up due to it just doesn’t all add up to me but then again TIT

I guess in Thailand they use cannabis with other lethal drugs

[internationalism]

not as if Democrats ever cared about health. 

They are conservatives and on a moral crusade. Their move is ideologically and also politically motivated.

 

Some people might end up in emergency after they indulge the first time. They are minor ailments, which will sort out by themselves within a few hours. Nobody is running to hospital after binge drinking - unless they are losing eye sight from home made metyl.

 

Nothing can stop kids from smoking ganja, as much as from cigarettes, alcohol or even yaba. They are readily available to everyone despite all legal obstacles. Ganja will gradually replace all the other substances simply because it's much less harmful, more fun and cheaper (it's grown everywhere now). Kids know it and they will grow up to know more.

[realfunster]

 

"This week, Dr Muhammad Fahmee Talib of Prince of Songkla University’s Faculty of Medicine, in an objective assessment of the situation made clear that while the current problem is still manageable for Thailand’s health service, the picture is changing rapidly with rising cause for concern. He pointed out that last year 3% of all Emergency Room (ER) admissions to Thai hospitals were linked to cannabis or marijuana ingestion.  That figure, so far, for this year, has risen to 17% or nearly 6 times what it was."

 

Is the "Dr" really expecting anyone to seriously believe that 1 in 5 ER admissions across Thailand are related to marijuana ? Absolutely incredible and wholly embarrassing for a 'professional' to put his name on such a statement/statistic.....

 

 

[Bert got kinky]

11 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

Please quote your evidence

I'm presuming that the remark of the poster 'zzzzz' was to highlight how fabricated and ridiculous Jurin Laksanawisit's claim of 566% (without evidence) really is.

Strange how a sense of humour post can go over some people's heads. ????

 

[Raphael Hythlodaeus]

2 hours ago, RJRS1301 said:

One has question what are the conditions being treated on admission?

Or is just people presenting for conditions and they happen to be stoned and now admit it?

Are people being admitted for incidents such as falls minor injuries while stoned,?

Been using dope for about 55 years no problems for me or anyone I know with exception of a green out on some really good hash

Exactly my thoughts. What treatment do they give? When I was using high THC cannabis oil (to treat cancer), if I overdid it I just wanted to lie down and rest. I haven't heard of anyone dying of a cannabis overdose. As far as I know other countries have not experienced such an increase which makes me suspicious of the numbers quoted. By the way, unlike nicotine, I did not find cannabis in the least bit addictive. Naturally, a minority will abuse it.

[Venom]

In Cali the they are clogging up  hospitals to the point of hindering efforts to fight the pandemic. Personally, I think they should just send them back home. ????

[nana kid]

I think there is a mental clash between Thai cultural thinking, and the mind expanding

result of getting stoned.

[Orinoco]

37 minutes ago, zzzzz said:

meanwhile they dont tell ya, accidents and people being charged for drunk driving has dropped in half   ????

Yes, but that can be,  a case of more people are just paying the cops off

[marcusb]

Couple hundred people at the hospital last week when I went. Apparently that would be 34 people for cannabis.  Yeahhhhhh right... 

[sambum]

6 hours ago, kwilco said:

As Thailand is notoriously bad at gathering statistics, it's hard to find credibility in stats that have been gathered in just a few weeks - my guess is that their political aims have overruled any objectivity or accuracy.

 

Thailand's de-criminalisation of cannabis is so incompetent it can only be compared with Liz Truss's handling of the UK economy - a total mess of unplanned chaos driven purely be dogma.

 

It's a shame as cannabis should be decriminalised on a worldwide scale but...TIT.

 

 

Yes, Liz Truss could fit in well with the current Thai Government - especially when the Minister of Health openly promotes and "legalises" a product that was illegal, and "can be" a health hazard in some people, but in which he has personally invested a lot of money. But as you say - TIT!

[sambum]

"A top Thai government agency has revealed that the number of young people under 20 now using the drug has doubled since it was decriminalised in June."

 

Now I presume that will come as a HUGE surprise to the Minister of Health!  

[cnx101]

Of course more people are using it, it’s been decriminalized.

[Balance]

6 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Maybe the first thing they should do is to sell it not more openly than cigarettes.

In shops which sell cigarettes they must be hidden until a customer demands them.

With cannabis in it is advertised and sold in the open on the street. I.e. walk through Sukhumvit Soi 11 and there are many cannabis shops on the street - all openly advertising.

 

What could possibly go wrong?

And who ever thought that could be a good idea?

Did anybody think before they allowed this situation?

TiT!

Get rid of all of the cheap rot-gut being MANUFACURED in Thailand and imported.  Why? (1) to start with; It is probably responible for a over half of traffic deaths and serious injuries as well as domestic violence.  It is not called rot-gut for nothing as it rips up your stomach, not to mention the damage done to kidneys, liver, and intestines, to name a few organs. 

 

Replace the rot-gut in the shops selling it with regulated and TESTED weed under 25% THC. Price it under going street prices. Weed does not cause an known problems with the body outside of alergic rare allergic reactions.  It also slows down most drivers. No, I do not know how it does this, perhaps by reducing competitive urges.

 

The government saves billions in health care costs, gets rid of truly dangerous booze,  and initiates  the first step in common sense regulation.  At the same time it leaves in place canibus shops that generate tax revenue and create jobs.

 

Just some thoughts 

[Woof999]

14 minutes ago, Balance said:

It also slows down most drivers. No, I do not know how it does this, perhaps by reducing competitive urges.

You seriously advocating for driving while stoned?

[BritManToo]

4 hours ago, Geoffggi said:

You have to be joking Top shelf stuff is selling at 700-800 Baht a gram. Obviously you must be quoting for sweeping ups

Do you always drink a $10,000 bottle of wine, or is a $10-$20 bottle sometimes good enough?

 

Back to the OP,

If someone goes to an emergency room with a cut finger or stubbed toe, but admits to regular cannabis use, is that counted as a cannabis related emergency treatment?

Edited November 7, 2022 by BritManToo

[Pouatchee]

4 hours ago, Orinoco said:

Maybe they were doing hot knives and missed ( to stoned ) and stabbed themselves in the face with the red hot tip of the knife. 

Don't think they have hash in Thailand. And surely smoking weed with knives and oven/torch doesn't work...

[CanadaSam]

1 + 566% = 5.66

 

So, before legalization, there was 1 hospitalization, now, there are a little less than 6 people hospitalized.

[Orinoco]

1 minute ago, Pouatchee said:

Don't think they have hash in Thailand. And surely smoking weed with knives and oven/torch doesn't work...

Don't spoil the joke. Chill and skin up.

[hotchilli]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

Deputy Prime Minister Anutin Charnvirakul and his Bhumjaithai Party, already at the bottom of opinion polls, are facing a continued backlash from his controversial cannabis legalisation policy with Emergency Room (ER) admissions in relation to marijuana up 566% this year so far.

Anutins legacy for Thailand... 

[Sheryl]

The problem is not legalization per se but:

 

1 - excessive hyping/over-promotion by government (tied to vested financial interests) leading people to think it is a cure all

 

2- failure of government  to enforce existing regulations e.g. THC levels - again, linked to vested financial interests.

 

There is a middle ground between the present situation and a return to jailing people for possession of even small amounts of the stuff.

[Orinoco]

15 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

Anutins legacy for Thailand... 

And that special Thailand catch phrase of his.

Dirty Falang.

[Arthur Mullard]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

A top government agency has also revealed that the number of young people under 20 now using the drug has doubled since it was decriminalised in June.

GOOD for you young people.... unshackle yourselves and get a taste of freedom ????

4 hours ago, Smithson said:

The Thai Enquire is often running Reefer Madness type stories. Even one saying a bloke cut his old fella off because he was stoned.

Ladyboy??

[JimboB4]

This is just propaganda Laksanawisit is using against Anutin. I listened to the article in English and it’s complete bs. What this is is Laksanawisit has his people in Parliament and the media backing him up. This Thai Examiner article is clearly trying to be bias in favor of Laksanawisit, the entire article was complete bull S***. 

[Arthur Mullard]

10 minutes ago, Orinoco said:

And that special Thailand catch phrase of his.

Dirty Falang.

I think we should get behind him... the more spats/personal remarks in the cabinet the better...

[JimboB4]

34 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

The problem is not legalization per se but:

 

1 - excessive hyping/over-promotion by government (tied to vested financial interests) leading people to think it is a cure all

 

2- failure of government  to enforce existing regulations e.g. THC levels - again, linked to vested financial interests.

 

There is a middle ground between the present situation and a return to jailing people for possession of even small amounts of the stuff.

That was the point of legalizing it. That’s WHY they legalized it so they wouldn’t have to regulate it anymore. Kind of the whole point of taking it off the narcotics list and letting everyone grow it. You all should stop spreading misinformation and face the facts. It’s legal and here to stay. 
 

BTW, you obviously don’t know anything about cannabis kind of hard to regulate the THC level in various plants scattered throughout the country, impossible in fact LMAO. You all have been spreading misinformation about cannabis since they first started legalizing it. The Thai Examiner article is obviously just spreading pro Laksanawisit propaganda and he has his people in parliament doing it as well. 
 

This whole article is basing THC levels on the early thinking when they first started legalizing it. You’re dealing with natural medicine not pills with exact MG doses. Nor should anyone care about the THC level, that’s almost comical. Try some it’s easy to buy online. Great stuff to. 

Edited November 7, 2022 by JimboB4