5 hours ago, Sparktrader said:

My gf has had 5 shots. Covid is bad. Similar to swine flu in my experience.

Depends on individual.

I had it and no worse than a cold. Lasted about 5 days.

I had not long before had second jab- IMO useless.

Pneumonia shot for older folks is worthwhile. 

It's over for pandemic, but covid will stay forever, as flu and common cold. 
It mutates constantly and future strains can be as dangerous as delta. 
So vacces should be constantly developed, as for season flu. Offered for elderly and those with underlying conditions. 
But pharma doesn't care much about new generation doses. Governments still have large surplus and won't be ordering more, so there is no any pressure on pharmaceutical companies to run research and new production lines. 

Edited November 9, 20223 yr by internationalism

1 hour ago, Lizzy Duang said:

I noticed a while ago that cardiology in BPH was more crowded than ever. Anyone here who developed heart problems after the shots?

No because that doesn't happen.

 

Covid is still out there and can kill you along with the flu. Easy to stay up to date with vaccinations and a yearly flu shot. It's crazy that anyone would roll the dice on their own health. 

 

I see there are still plenty of idiots out there willing to die to cuck the libs. Turn off Fox News.  

So are the proteins in the vaccines the new varients i don't know do but do some research and form a better understanding of our present position ????????

Just sayin! 

5 hours ago, TooMuchTime said:

Always went about maskless in California and Thailand.

Well that's disrespectful. You wearing a mask is not to protect you, but rather to protect others from you.

2 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

so-called vaccines do nothing to prevent transmission

This is a low-information voter response.

 

Whilst it's true that some remarkable vaccines do prevent transmission, most don't. The Covid vaccine is doing what you'd expect it to do. Well. 

 

I'm aware that in America, politicians and other hype machines made extravagant claims, but then why would you expect politicians to stick to the truth? Such a strange position to take.

 

Without getting too epistemological here, somebody is not lying if they knew you wouldn't believe them before they spoke; it can only be a lie if it was expected to be true. So... you only fooled yourself by expecting what they said to be true.

12 minutes ago, IAMHERE said:

Pneumonia shot for older folks is worthwhile. 

For some maybe.....  had part 1  in November 2019 = 5 days in Hospital, told not to have the final part. of this Vaccine.

2 hours ago, RickyJB said:

 i wore my mask in the airport and on the plane home. still caught something ,,

The main purpose of wearing a mask is not to protect the person wearing the mask, but rather to protect others from that person. It's amazing how many people still don't understand that.

 

Similarly some people are proud to announce that they still go into work when they have a cold/flu, not caring that by doing so they will cause others to suffer too.

On 11/9/2022 at 9:17 AM, ThaSalaPaul said:

Well that's disrespectful. You wearing a mask is not to protect you, but rather to protect others from you.

LOL. scared people can protect themselves with proper masks. It's not non mask wearers job to protect them.

 

1 hour ago, Rockhound said:

Don't like my graphs?  How about OWID/Johns Hopkins?  (They are identical to mine - same data and same smoothing.

 

What that graph is showing is the people who were vulnerable got ill first and then rates fell as potential victims who were left were more robust. Impossible to say what effect the vaccines had at this point. Correlation doesn't equal causation etc... etc...

The vaccines should in most cases stop you from falling seriously ill or dying from Covid, but they're not very effective at preventing you from getting it in the first place. After surviving 3 years of the pandemic in Pattaya, without a single sick day, I went back to the UK in September and, within a week, I'd caught the wretched virus. And that was less than 2 months after my second Pfizer booster, so four shots of vaccine in total. I was down for a week, symptoms very much like a bad cold but with loss of smell and appetite. Worse was the tiredness and brain fog it left me with for around 3 weeks afterwards, that only passed a week before my flight back to Thailand last month. Being a generous sort, I also gave it to my older brother, and he had the same symptoms but almost 2 months later is still suffering the 'long Covid' effects. He'd had 3 shots of Pfizer in total, but his last one was almost a year ago. Whether it was the lack of protection from a recent vaccination or just his age (he's 6 years older than me) that caused him to have much worse problems that I did I have no idea.

1 hour ago, superal said:

You said "i wore my mask in the airport and on the plane home. still caught something " as if a mask will give protection against an airborne virus , sorry but it does not . The mask will stop your projectiles from coughs and sneezes from hitting others but that is about it   

Wrong

Really?

6 hours ago, Sparktrader said:

My gf has had 5 shots. Covid is bad. Similar to swine flu in my experience.

If you are a swine you deserved it...555.

29 minutes ago, Pinot said:

It's crazy that anyone would roll the dice on their own health. 

There are plenty of people who are medically unable to take certain vaccines due to allergy issues - for the mRNA vaccines, there are plenty of people who are allergic to either polyethylene glycol, phosphocholine or trimethamine. They are at risk of anaphylactic shock, which is potentially fatal.

 

On 11/9/2022 at 9:37 AM, Kaopad999 said:

 

Covid is worse than average flu.

48 minutes ago, Pinot said:

yearly flu shot.

Most flus are mild.

40 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

What that graph is showing is the people who were vulnerable got ill first and then rates fell as potential victims who were left were more robust. Impossible to say what effect the vaccines had at this point. Correlation doesn't equal causation etc... etc...

Vaccines work. My gf had 5 shots didnt get sick. I had 2 got very sick. My last shot was more than a year old.

3 hours ago, RickyJB said:

i returned from Thailand 3 weeks ago, and was floored by some virus, fever for 2 weeks, felt worse than when i had covid last year..(i was also in hospital then) i was tested 3 times and all came back negative for covid.. so there are things out there  a lot worse than covid,, but certain people keep pushing this scaremongering nonsense,,  i started feeling ill the day i was in the airport to come home, people coughing and spluttering and not wearing masks.. i wore my mask in the airport and on the plane home. still caught something ,,

You wore your mask and yet you still got sick. What does that tell you about the benefit of wearing a mask?

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Depends on individual.

I had it and no worse than a cold. Lasted about 5 days.

I had not long before had second jab- IMO useless.

You should wait 3 months after covid before getting another shot.

3 hours ago, RickyJB said:

i returned from Thailand 3 weeks ago, and was floored by some virus, fever for 2 weeks, felt worse than when i had covid last year..(i was also in hospital then) i was tested 3 times and all came back negative for covid.. so there are things out there  a lot worse than covid,, but certain people keep pushing this scaremongering nonsense,,  i started feeling ill the day i was in the airport to come home, people coughing and spluttering and not wearing masks.. i wore my mask in the airport and on the plane home. still caught something ,,

Food poisoning? Std?

Covid killed millions

11 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

Covid is worse than average flu.

already had covid. i've had flu that was far worse. 

Just now, Kaopad999 said:

already had covid. i've had flu that was far worse. 

The death rates say otherwise.

"Public Health Ministry announcement cancelling the decree dated Oct 9, 2020 that had allowed the ministry to procure Covid-19 vaccines to protect the public interest, control the outbreak or maintain national security."

 

https://www.thestar.com.my/aseanplus/aseanplus-news/2022/11/04/thailand-stops-procuring-covid-19-vaccine

 

Hopefully it stays relatively mild and cases don't spike because there won't be many vaccines available in any case. 

3 hours ago, Chosenfew said:

Thailand didn’t get the memo - the new emergency is climate change…

But even if they did, there would be next to nothing done.

3 hours ago, Chosenfew said:

Thailand didn’t get the memo - the new emergency is climate change…

Covid is real though.

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4 hours ago, VinnieK said:

Most vaxxed ppl that I know have had Covid already.(afterwards)

One of them, (Thai woman), developed myocarditis after the 'v' and a few weeks later lost her mind.

I had mild Covid myself, in the early months.

Never took the 'v' 

Too many questions still un-answered about the origin of this disease and the efficacy of vaccines imo

Bat soup?....????????

 

 

I certainly won’t be having anymore jabs. Arthritic fingers & thumbs on occasion post-vaccine... I am not old, though of course it can come post-40. May just be a coincidence and doctors say there’s no connection (they would wouldn’t they), but I’d sooner suffer that cold and will let my immune system do its job in future. 

7 hours ago, TooMuchTime said:

Always went about maskless in California and Thailand.

So brave....