Her miscarriage left her bleeding profusely. An Ohio ER sent her home to wait

[Scott]

 

Christina Zielke and her husband were excited when she got pregnant in July. It was her first pregnancy at age 33 – everything was new. But during the ultrasound at her initial prenatal appointment in Washington D.C., there was no heartbeat. Bloodwork taken a few days apart showed her pregnancy hormone levels were dropping.

 

A doctor from her Ob-Gyn's office called her to confirm that the pregnancy had ended in a miscarriage. They laid out her options: Take medication to make the pregnancy tissue come out faster, have a dilation and curettage or D&C procedure to remove the pregnancy tissue from her uterus, or wait for it to come out on its own.

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/11/15/1135882310/miscarriage-hemorrhage-abortion-law-ohio

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Remember that earlier case in Ohio? Where an 11 year old had to travel to Indiana to get an abortion. In the wake of the incident the Ohio governor asserted that the law clearly allowed for an  11 year old to get an abortion. When asked what about a 12 year old, no answer.

As long as doctors face severe criminal penalties, these kinds of incidents will occur. In fact, as some state increase the severity of their anti-abortion laws, more women will pay a terrible price.

 

[Credo]

The current process puts undo pressure on medical providers.  Hospitals and Clinics are not interested in getting sued, and doctors aren't interested in going to jail.  It's far too easy to challenge the decision of the medical providers, even when it is the wish of the patient.   

 

[thaibeachlovers]

The problem with non medical people making non informed opinions about things like "heavy bleeding" is that they don't actually know how much is dangerous, and claims by the woman that the bottom of the bathtub was full is subjective. As I learned on a first aid course, one can lose what seems to be a lot of blood without it being a threat to life.

 

Medical people don't willingly send people away to die, so as non of us were in the ER perhaps we can wait for the outcome of the investigation/ court case before casting stones.

 

BTW, had she opted for the D & C likely none of the problem would have occurred.

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18 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The problem with non medical people making non informed opinions about things like "heavy bleeding" is that they don't actually know how much is dangerous, and claims by the woman that the bottom of the bathtub was full is subjective. As I learned on a first aid course, one can lose what seems to be a lot of blood without it being a threat to life.

 

Medical people don't willingly send people away to die, so as non of us were in the ER perhaps we can wait for the outcome of the investigation/ court case before casting stones.

 

BTW, had she opted for the D & C likely none of the problem would have occurred.

What don't you understand about the fact the medical people can be prosecuted for performing an abortion in Ohio?

 

Had this happened to her in a state without brutal restrictions on abortion, it likely wouldn't have occurred either.

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And in entirely unrelated news:

 

Ohio Republicans Want to Make Ballot Measures Harder to Pass, Because Abortion Is Popular

On Thursday, in allegedly unrelated news, Ohio Republicans announced that they want to make it harder to pass ballot initiatives. Currently, ballot measures need 50 percent of the vote to pass, but Ohio Secretary of State Frank LaRose and state Rep. Brian Stewart want to up that to 60 percent. In a press conference, LaRose said the proposed change would make it harder for “special interest groups” to influence changes to the state constitution.

https://news.yahoo.com/ohio-republicans-want-ballot-measures-175900525.html

 

The Republicans tried this in South Dakota, too. It failed.

[stevenl]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

And in entirely unrelated news:

 

Ohio Republicans Want to Make Ballot Measures Harder to Pass, Because Abortion Is Popular

On Thursday, in allegedly unrelated news, Ohio Republicans announced that they want to make it harder to pass ballot initiatives. Currently, ballot measures need 50 percent of the vote to pass, but Ohio Secretary of State Frank LaRose and state Rep. Brian Stewart want to up that to 60 percent. In a press conference, LaRose said the proposed change would make it harder for “special interest groups” to influence changes to the state constitution.

https://news.yahoo.com/ohio-republicans-want-ballot-measures-175900525.html

 

The Republicans tried this in South Dakota, too. It failed.

Imo it makes sense that a change needs a convincing majority, not just 51 percent.

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2 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Imo it makes sense that a change needs a convincing majority, not just 51 percent.

I think it depends on what you're voting for. But it's obvious in this case why it's being done. Well, and not just this case. Ohio voters passed a referendum imposing honest reapportionment of congressional districts. Republicans flagrantly violated that law for the 2022 elections. Supposedly, in 2024 the law will be observed.

[Bkk Brian]

On 11/19/2022 at 9:45 PM, placeholder said:

Remember that earlier case in Ohio? Where an 11 year old had to travel to Indiana to get an abortion. In the wake of the incident the Ohio governor asserted that the law clearly allowed for an  11 year old to get an abortion. When asked what about a 12 year old, no answer.

As long as doctors face severe criminal penalties, these kinds of incidents will occur. In fact, as some state increase the severity of their anti-abortion laws, more women will pay a terrible price.

 

Is this the one you were referring to, she was 9 when raped but 10 when she finally managed to have the abortion. He's just been jailed for life but the poor girls emotional stress will be with her for life.

 

Man jailed for life for raping girl, 9, who had to travel to neighbouring US state for abortion

Gerson Fuentes impregnated the girl during the attack, and she had to travel to Indiana to terminate the pregnancy after Ohio banned abortions at the first detectable "foetal heartbeat" in the wake of the Roe v Wade ruling.

A man has been jailed for life for raping a nine-year-old - who then had to travel to another US state for an abortion.

Gerson Fuentes admitted attacking the girl in Columbus, Ohio.

The 28-year-old, the live-in boyfriend of the child's mother at the time, impregnated the girl.

She then had to travel from Ohio to the neighbouring state of Indiana to terminate the pregnancy, according to her physician, Dr. Caitlin Bernard.

https://news.sky.com/story/man-jailed-for-life-for-raping-girl-9-who-had-to-travel-to-neighbouring-us-state-for-abortion-12915697

[billd766]

It seems to me that all these anti abortion laws are being made by the people of the wrong sex.

 

MEN.

 

Men, who don't have the faintest idea about pregnancy or how a womans body works.

 

IF anti abortion laws ARE required, then IMHO only women should bring the subject up and vote on it, and there should be a 75% minimum vote in favour.

[Purdey]

Could it be about the cost of the D&C procedure? I have heard so many people say they cannot afford hospital care in the US - even with insurance due to copay and whatever.

 

Saw a stand up comedienne say that the reason Republican states banned abortion was to ensure school shootings continue. The women in the audience applauded. Sad situation.

[BritManToo]

7 month old story revived!

[Chomper Higgot]

On 11/19/2022 at 8:23 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

The problem with non medical people making non informed opinions about things like "heavy bleeding" is that they don't actually know how much is dangerous, and claims by the woman that the bottom of the bathtub was full is subjective. As I learned on a first aid course, one can lose what seems to be a lot of blood without it being a threat to life.

 

Medical people don't willingly send people away to die, so as non of us were in the ER perhaps we can wait for the outcome of the investigation/ court case before casting stones.

 

BTW, had she opted for the D & C likely none of the problem would have occurred.

A bit like politicians making decisions on what medical procedures may or may not be performed.

[Bkk Brian]

7 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

7 month old story revived!

He was just convicted yesterday. Perhaps you'd prefer a new OP or does justice being given not figure for you

Edited July 6, 2023 by Bkk Brian

[Yellowtail]

40 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

7 month old story revived!

I think just to point out that it probably happens every day. 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 6, 2023 by Yellowtail
clarity

[Bkk Brian]

17 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Just to point out that it happens every day. 

 

 

Can you provide a link to that claim. I was unawarw of so many children being raped and having to go to another state for an abortion

[Yellowtail]

10 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Can you provide a link to that claim. I was unawarw of so many children being raped and having to go to another state for an abortion

Sorry about that, should be okay not.