Elon Musk says Twitter will offer 'amnesty' to suspended accounts

[SunnyinBangrak]

22 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Musk claimed that the info on the account could endanger him. But to his way of thinking, it's perfectly OK to endanger Yoel Roth by spreading falsehoods about him and inciting anti-gay bigots.

Pointing out someones own words is not "spreading falsehoods", whether the words come from Roth or Caraballo, or anyone. Of course, it can be hugely embarrasing being caught in undeniable hypocrisy like they both were.

[SunnyinBangrak]

26 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Musk claimed that the info on the account could endanger him. But to his way of thinking, it's perfectly OK to endanger Yoel Roth by spreading falsehoods about him and inciting anti-gay bigots.

Having seen the hivemind focusing all its hatred on Musk - and after Kavanaughs attempted murder - hardly surprising he wants the tracker account taken down. Basic safety and common sense. Any leftists still not unable to understand this, try to imagine the plane tracker was of an elderly Hungarian chap with prominent eye bags, and it ought to clear up the confusion.

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38 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Pointing out someones own words is not "spreading falsehoods", whether the words come from Roth or Caraballo, or anyone. Of course, it can be hugely embarrasing being caught in undeniable hypocrisy like they both were.

Selectively quoting someone's words to misrepresent their stance on an issue is definitely "spreading hoods." And that's exactly what Musk did. Karma of course, you completely ignore the evidence that I offered to establish that.

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37 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Having seen the hivemind focusing all its hatred on Musk - and after Kavanaughs attempted murder - hardly surprising he wants the tracker account taken down. Basic safety and common sense. Any leftists still not unable to understand this, try to imagine the plane tracker was of an elderly Hungarian chap with prominent eye bags, and it ought to clear up the confusion.

I'm not criticising his move to taking down of that account. What I am criticising it is double standard. His post has clearly endangered someone's life. If Musk was consistent in his standards, he would ban himself from Twitter.

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Pointing out someones own words is not "spreading falsehoods", whether the words come from Roth or Caraballo, or anyone. Of course, it can be hugely embarrasing being caught in undeniable hypocrisy like they both were.

Roth stood up for Musk when he took over and was rewarded with an out of context snippet from a 500 page thesis that earned him his phd. That snippet missed entirely the context of the paragraph from which it was taken, the link to that has already been shared. Stop trying to defend the indefensible. Roth is now suffering extreme hate speech on Musk's own twitter and other platforms for baseless accusations. Hate speech can lead to real world actions.

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Having seen the hivemind focusing all its hatred on Musk - and after Kavanaughs attempted murder - hardly surprising he wants the tracker account taken down. Basic safety and common sense. Any leftists still not unable to understand this, try to imagine the plane tracker was of an elderly Hungarian chap with prominent eye bags, and it ought to clear up the confusion.

Who said leftists don't understand this? By the way, the new policy has stated tracking in real time is now banned but its ok if its delayed. So how much of a delay is that and who gets to decide? I wonder how this will be policed when there are live events with public figures.

[Bkk Brian]

12 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

The answer, of course, is "never".  Espezioncially high school age, and especially when the student and teacher are in the same school.  

That may well be the awnser. However the debate in the article was whether it was illegal for an 18 yr old student when the legal age of sex id 16. 

 

Hence the discussion they had in court. Rolp providing a link to the article does not label him a pedo as has been thrown at him by twitter users.

Edited December 15, 2022 by Bkk Brian

[ozimoron]

The white rabbit is no longer the world's richest man.

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-15/who-is-bernard-arnault-the-new-richest-person-elon-musk/101774806

[Phoenix Rising]

26 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

The white rabbit is no longer the world's richest man.

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-15/who-is-bernard-arnault-the-new-richest-person-elon-musk/101774806

White rabbit? I thought he went by 'Space Karen'!

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, Phoenix Rising said:

White rabbit? I thought he went by 'Space Karen'!

Lets just say he's lost touch with ground control......lol insert "white rabbit" "Space Karen" "Major Musk"

[Jingthing]

8 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Lets just say he's lost touch with ground control......lol insert "white rabbit" "Space Karen" "Major Musk"

He's rich so he's eccentric but take away his cash and it's looney bin time city.

[ozimoron]

25 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

He's rich so he's eccentric but take away his cash and it's looney bin time city.

He's not the Messiah, he's just a naughty boy.

[Phoenix Rising]

1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

He's not the Messiah, he's just a naughty boy.

He's achieved amazing things but he's a bum cavity of epic proportions, totally infatuated with his own image. Must have been a severe kick in the proverbial gonads to get booed off stage for the first time in his life.

Edited December 15, 2022 by Phoenix Rising

[Phoenix Rising]

QAnon is finding new life in Elon Musk's conspiracy theories

 

"The billionaire has spread bogus theories about the violent attack on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's husband to his 120 million followers, and he called for the criminal prosecution of infectious-disease expert Anthony S. Fauci. He has thrown around baseless accusations about adults sexualizing children, helping stir up an angry online mob against Yoel Roth, a former Twitter safety executive Musk praised in October for his "high integrity.""

[Bkk Brian]

Banning him from twitter was not enough. Due to his son being stalked he's now decided to take legal action against the 20 year old who had this account and others. The account holder was not the stalker.

 

Elon Musk taking legal action over Twitter account that tracks his private jet

Elon Musk says he is taking legal action against the holder of a Twitter account that tracks his private jet, arguing it put his son at risk.

The @ElonJet account, which has more than half a million followers, was suspended on Wednesday.

Its owner Jack Sweeney, 20, used publicly available flight-tracking information to tweet every time Mr Musk's jet took off and landed.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63978323

 

Yet he's more than happy to promote his conspiracy theory tweets against Fauci and put Fauci's family at risk. Along of course with Roth 

 

Fauci denounces 'low-life' trolls for harassing his wife and daughters and says disagreeing with Trump 'triggered a lot of hostility'

Anthony Fauci, the White House's chief medical advisor, has denounced the "low-life" trolls that harassed his wife and children in a BBC interview.

He told Marianna Spring, the disinformation correspondent at the BBC, that he could "compartmentalize" the hate he receives, but he cannot ignore the vitriolic abuse his wife and three adult daughters experience.

https://sports.yahoo.com/dr-fauci-denounces-lowlife-trolls-134532184.html

 

Musk is happy to stoke up hate speech and let the loonies take over with death threats to others but when it comes to him its a different matter.

Edited December 15, 2022 by Bkk Brian

[heybruce]

2 hours ago, ozimoron said:

He's not the Messiah, he's just a naughty boy.

Thank you for that.  ????????????

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6 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

The answer, of course, is "never".  Especially high school age, and especially when the student and teacher are in the same school.  

"high school age"? What is high school age? 18 years old is at least the age of consent virtually everywhere. So should a teach have sex with someone who is 18 years old? Is that immoral? The ethical problem in this case has nothing to do with age but the fact that a teacher is having sex with a student. That is unethical regardless of the ages of the teacher and the student even if the teacher is the younger party.

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[Bkk Brian]

12 minutes ago, placeholder said:

 

ooops, I'm surprised he's not deleted that yet like he does many of his other rants. Screenshot for prosperity.......lol

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

Elon's version of free speech on display yet again:

 

https://twitter.com/Dexerto/status/1603563911889952768

 

[Bkk Brian]

Now in media

 

NYT statement on Twitter suspending the accounts of prominent journalists, including NYT's Ryan Mac, calls the move "questionable and unfortunate."

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/15/technology/twitter-suspends-journalist-accounts-elon-musk.html

 

Twitter suspends journalists who have been covering Elon Musk and the company

Thursday's suspensions come as Musk has backtracked on his promise that he would run Twitter as a free speech absolutist.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/twitter-suspends-journalists-covering-elon-musk-company-rcna62032

Edited December 16, 2022 by Bkk Brian

[ozimoron]

Elon Muskovite not allowing free speech.

 

As of this writing, Twitter has suspended the accounts of CNN's Donie O'Sullivan, New York Times reporter Ryan Mac, Washington Post reporter Drew Harwell, Mashable reporter Matt Binder, and independent progressive commentator Aaron Rupar.

Twitter has given no explanation for the suspensions, although all of the journalists mentioned were either writing stories on or commenting on Musk's content moderation policies at the social networking website.

O'Sullivan, for instance, had just posted a report he filed in which he quoted the Los Angeles Police Department as saying there had not yet been a criminal report filed over Musk's claim that an unidentified man attacked a car carrying his son earlier this week.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/elon-musk-twitter-ban/

[Bluespunk]

To paraphrase Jack Nicholson regarding musk and free speech

 

“you can’t handle free speech”

 

Twitter bans some journalists who cover Elon Musk https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63996061

[Phoenix Rising]

Twitter Suspends Accounts of Keith Olbermann, Aaron Rupar and More Journalists Who Cover Elon Musk

 

"Twitter appeared to suspend the accounts of several high-profile journalists who cover Elon Musk on Thursday night, including Keith Olbermann and Aaron Rupar.

The New York Times’ Ryan Mac, The Washington Post’s Drew Harwell, CNN’s Donie O’Sullivan, Mashable’s Matt Binder, The Intercept’s Micah Lee and Tony Webster have also been suspended, according to NBC News."

 

Of course the MAGA crowd on AN are slobbering all over Musk. One even wrote something like "Thank you Elon for making Twitter all about free speech again". ????

[James105]

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Elon's version of free speech on display yet again:

 

https://twitter.com/Dexerto/status/1603563911889952768

 

If I posted your private address on here (a public forum) would you like it to:

 

a) be deleted 

or 

b) be kept online as its free speech  

 

If I kept doing it even though it's against the rules do you think my account should be suspended or should I continue to be able to do it because of free speech?   

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1 hour ago, James105 said:

If I posted your private address on here (a public forum) would you like it to:

 

a) be deleted 

or 

b) be kept online as its free speech  

 

If I kept doing it even though it's against the rules do you think my account should be suspended or should I continue to be able to do it because of free speech?   

Well, for one thing, there is this:

 

For another, not all the suspensions were about the location of his jet:

 

'Binder, a tech reporter at Mashable, said he was suspended after tweeting a screenshot from another suspended reporter, CNN’s O’Sullivan, of an LAPD statement.

"I’ve been on it since 2008. I never got so much as a slap on the wrist because I always follow the rules," Binder said.

https://finance.yahoo.com/twitter-suspends-journalists-covering-elon-010856604.html

 

Here's what happened after Musk posted a poll offering Twitter members options about what action to take against these journalists:

"When a plurality of respondents voted to restore the accounts immediately, he deleted the poll and started a new one with fewer options."

https://finance.yahoo.com/twitter-suspends-journalists-covering-elon-010856604.html

Edited December 16, 2022 by placeholder

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, James105 said:

If I posted your private address on here (a public forum) would you like it to:

 

a) be deleted 

or 

b) be kept online as its free speech  

 

If I kept doing it even though it's against the rules do you think my account should be suspended or should I continue to be able to do it because of free speech?   

Only you could come up with such a false equivalent, hypothetical scenario that is already covered adequately here:

https://aseannow.com/terms/

 

Just as a reminder to you, this is not about me, an anonymous user, it is about Elon Musk a public figure with a large security detail including a team of bodyguards. Has publicly available records on their flight data for their own private jet, is courting publicity daily and responsible himself for spreading conspiracy theories on Pelosi, Fauci and Roth. Which in turn led to one of them having to move house, arrests and threats to life and family.

 

So let me ask you now. What evidence do you have these high profile journalists shared his private address?

[James105]

10 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Well, for one thing, there is this:

 

For another, not all the suspensions were about the location of his jet:

 

'Binder, a tech reporter at Mashable, said he was suspended after tweeting a screenshot from another suspended reporter, CNN’s O’Sullivan, of an LAPD statement.

"I’ve been on it since 2008. I never got so much as a slap on the wrist because I always follow the rules," Binder said.

https://finance.yahoo.com/twitter-suspends-journalists-covering-elon-010856604.html

 

Here's what happened after Musk posted a poll offering Twitter members options about what action to take against these journalists:

"When a plurality of respondents voted to restore the accounts immediately, he deleted the poll and started a new one with fewer options."

https://finance.yahoo.com/twitter-suspends-journalists-covering-elon-010856604.html

Is he not allowed to change his mind once he realised just how unhinged the "be kind" brigade are?  If these "journalists" do not like the rules that a private platform sets they can always go and start their own platform, can they not?  

[Chomper Higgot]

Freedom of speech,,, Yeh .. OK:

 

Unless of course you are a journalist reporting on Musk.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/dec/15/twitter-suspends-accounts-journalists-musk

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Just now, James105 said:

Is he not allowed to change his mind once he realised just how unhinged the "be kind" brigade are?  If these "journalists" do not like the rules that a private platform sets they can always go and start their own platform, can they not?  

Change his mind about what? He said he wouldn't ban the account posting his jet's location. How does a reportedly allegedly being unhinged affect the simple factual content of that account?

Funny. So, you were okay with Twitter suspending and banning accounts it deemed dangerous. I don't recall you ever writing liks this in defense of twitter: " If these "journalists" do not like the rules that a private platform sets they can always go and start their own platform, can they not?"

Hypocritical much?