China Covid: Shocking protests are huge challenge for China's leaders

[Scott]

 

Acts of dissent are not unusual in China.

Over the years, sudden, local explosions of defiance have been triggered by a range of issues - from toxic pollution to illegal land grabs, or the mistreatment of a community member at the hands of the police.

But this time it's different.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-63772365

[thaibeachlovers]

Suppress too many people for too long and the result is usually unpleasant or unwanted for the suppressors.

Eg French revolution, American revolution, Russian revolution, the current protests in Iran, and now apparently in China.

One can only hope it's as unpleasant for Xi and his cronies as those in the past.

[AhFarangJa]

Maybe we will see more scenes like this from 30 years ago.................

[Srikcir]

1 hour ago, AhFarangJa said:

Maybe we will see more scenes like this from 30 years ago.................

Or in street protests, a "leg to stand on."

[RichardColeman]

"We want our freedom to go to Thailand and buy a Pattaya condo" they were reported as chanting !

[stevenl]

2 hours ago, AhFarangJa said:

Maybe we will see more scenes like this from 30 years ago.................

I'm afraid they'd simply run him over now.

[JonnyF]

I suspect this will cause Xi to double down on his zero Covid policy. He won't allow himself to be seen as weak and pandering to the protesters.

 

I'd expect further lockdowns, and increasing force used by the authorities.

 

Terrible for the Chinese people (but good for residents of tourist areas of Thailand).

[vandeventer]

5 minutes ago, stevenl said:

I'm afraid they'd simply run him over now.

It's the young that want their freedom, the covid 19 protest's is just the start as the hunger for freedom is growing. 

[MrJ2U]

You look at the "crisis" and wonder how far this will go. 

 

It's usually just stomped out and life returns back to the Communist one party rule.

 

One guy and his cronies calling the shots for billions of people. 

[Cake Monster]

The Chinese dream bubble is bursting

The dream of all Chinese having a house, good Job etc seems to be sliding away with the Covid lockdowns

This is probably the very worst thing that could be happening within the Country for the CCP.

With the   Manufacturing Engine  of the World starting to go into revolt, and the increasing threat of India stealing much of the Market, China has some very serious issues to contend with.

[SunnyinBangrak]

China's leader is super relieved the population are disarmed. Tyrannical regimes thrive with an unarmed population unable to defend themselves. A valuable lesson in there somewhere.

[thaibeachlovers]

3 hours ago, AhFarangJa said:

Maybe we will see more scenes like this from 30 years ago.................

That was in one place. Current protests more spread out. Still they have more soldiers than protestors, so perhaps.

[Peterphuket]

Leaders????

Oppressors is a better word.

[Purdey]

I guess the Chinese are more aware of what goes on in the western world than we thought. 

I wouldn't be surprised if they got it from television - though that doesn't mean the Chinese are copying but perhaps feeling more empowered. 

[bangon04]

6 hours ago, MrJ2U said:

You look at the "crisis" and wonder how far this will go. 

 

It's usually just stomped out and life returns back to the Communist one party rule.

 

One guy and his cronies calling the shots for billions of people. 

yes - wishful thinking........   let us hope there is not too much bloodshed.

[bangon04]

11 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Suppress too many people for too long and the result is usually unpleasant or unwanted for the suppressors.

Eg French revolution, American revolution, Russian revolution, the current protests in Iran, and now apparently in China.

One can only hope it's as unpleasant for Xi and his cronies as those in the past.

but you forgot to mention Thailand ( choose your favorite coup), DPRK,   Myanmar, Cambodia, Laos PDR, North Vietnam, Afghanistan (oops), PRC/Taiwan, ......

[still kicking]

China protests: Influx of racy Twitter posts are a ploy to stop news | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site

[vandeventer]

China seems to have many problems not just the protesters on covid or the aged population or it's lack of water, which is it's biggest problem as the video shows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9EmyLnVzWI

 

[candide]

On 11/28/2022 at 9:25 AM, still kicking said:

China protests: Influx of racy Twitter posts are a ploy to stop news | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site

From the linked article:

One former employee at Twitter said the problem of foreign political interference was common on the platform and claimed “all the China influence operations and analysts at Twitter all resigned” following Elon Musk’s takeover last month.

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1 hour ago, vandeventer said:

China seems to have many problems not just the protesters on covid or the aged population or it's lack of water, which is it's biggest problem as the video shows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9EmyLnVzWI

 

What struck me most about this video is how it avoids the central issue: human caused global warming. Even when it briefly mentioned China's coal industry, no reference was made to the fact that China's burning of coal was a major contributor to this. It just referred to it as a pollutant and consumer of large amounts of water. This video also made no mention of the fact that the same issues that affect China are affecting the world at large, also. But keeps on saying that it's China's fault if the failure of its water supply hurts the global economy. It ignores that similar problems afflict the rest of the world. The USA is suffering the effects of a massive drought in the Southwest. The giant Oglalla aquifer has been massively overpumped for years. Stretches of the Mississippis river, which is crucial for transport of grain, have run dry.   Europe is also experiencing a big problem with drought and not just the southern portion. Transport on the Rhine is threatened because of low water levels. In fact most of the  Northern Hemisphere suffered from drought this year. And much that which didn't experienced disastrous flooding. Climatologists know that greenhouse gases are fueling drastic changes in weather patterns. But you wouldn't get that from this video. I'm guessing that the source of this is some right-wing Taiwanese based organization which is using China's water problems to bash the CCCP.  Which would explain why no mention is made of human caused climate change.

 

Anyway, those of us who are literate, might want to turn to more balanced and better sources You know, the kind that use something called the "written word".

Here's a link to a brief article which covers  the same ground as the video, but more succinctly and more precise data.

https://www.lowyinstitute.org/the-interpreter/water-scarcity-challenges-china-s-development-model

 

This one offers a deeper dive:

https://www.wilsoncenter.org/event/seeking-solutions-for-water-scarcity-china