Ron DeSantis government bans new advanced African American history course

[Scott]

Florida officials have blocked the introduction of a new advanced-level high school course that teaches African American history.

Governor Ron DeSantis' administration said the proposed course "lacks educational value and is contrary to Florida law".

The course is being rolled out in a pilot programme by the US College Board to 60 high schools across the country.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64348902

[Jingthing]

From Don't Say Gay to Don't Say Black. It's disgusting that this neo fascist populist demagogue is so popular. Yeah he would be better than Trump but that's like saying eating liverwurst is better than eating cockroaches. 

 

This charlatan doesn't care about solving real problems for Floridians like the housing crisis. It's all about his divisive culture war garbage in his attempt to propel him to the presidency. Will Americans be fooled again? 

 

 

Edited January 20, 2023 by Jingthing

[Chomper Higgot]

Oh look ‘Cancel Culture’, and from a darling of the Rightwing.

[Tug]

Looks like old Ron DeSantis is doing his usual outrage theater instead of trying to govern sad ???? hope he runs for President it would be side splitting funny he and old Donnie could see just who is more of a racist gas lighter !a truly bottom dwelling piece of slime a true maga piece of (insert favorite word here)it would be fun to see just how much taxpayer dollars he’s waisted chasing imaginary voter fraud bussing asylum seekers ect ect and it would be nice to have an idea of how many have lost their lives due to his gaslighting of the Covid vaccines yup a real piece of work is old Ronnie!!

[still kicking]

In my country he would be charged with racism and sacked 

[KhunLA]

Good, enough BS time wasted on special interest group agendas.   Where's the Native American studies, the English, Irish, German, Dutch, Italian studies ?

 

Try teaching subjects students can benefit from;  more science, math, political science, computer science.  Stop with the dumbing down, divisive BS.

 

IMHO ... what they teach already is too much, as mandatory learning for special interest groups.   Want to learn it, take an elective course.

 

"While DeSantis has favored legislation that limits the teaching of critical race theory in his state's schools, Redfern noted Florida law requires instruction on African American history in K-12 education.

 

According to Florida statutes, state schools must teach the "history of African Americans, including the history of African peoples before the political conflicts that led to the development of slavery, the passage to America, the enslavement experience, abolition, and the history and contributions of Americans of the African diaspora to society."

https://www.newsweek.com/ron-desantis-administration-defends-banning-african-american-studies-class-florida-1775151

 

Edited January 20, 2023 by KhunLA

[Jingthing]

American democracy under threat.

Trumpist without the baggage.

A real and present danger.

 

DeSantis Is 'Very Dangerous Individual' Without Trump's Drama: Expert (businessinsider.com)

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DeSantis is a 'very dangerous individual' because he has 'already absorbed all the lessons of Trump' but doesn't have any of the baggage, an expert on fascism argues

 

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis could be the GOP's natural successor to former President Donald Trump as a 2024 presidential candidate, and he doesn't come with Trump's drama, an expert on authoritarianism told Insider.

Ruth Ben-Ghiat is a historian at New York University, and the author of the book, "Strongmen: Mussolini to the Present." She has studied the backsliding of democracy, from the US to Russia, and elsewhere.

 

 

[spidermike007]

This man is so sad and out of touch with reality. He might was well be saying we don't want to face our past and it is not good for us white men to learn and progress. So, let us "whitewash" the books and just deny and forget.

 

I sure hope some of his skeletons get unearthed. He would not make a good, or forward thinking leader. 

Edited January 20, 2023 by spidermike007

[OneMoreFarang]

5 hours ago, Scott said:

Florida officials have blocked the introduction of a new advanced-level high school course that teaches African American history.

Governor Ron DeSantis' administration said the proposed course "lacks educational value and is contrary to Florida law".

I think text like above leaves just too much space for imagination and is almost useless.

Maybe he blocked it because he doesn't want that anybody learn something about slaves or racism.

But maybe he banned it because this specific course was just bad and/or super woke. Maybe it included that all white people should feel guilty for the suppression of all black people or similar BS.

It's also possible that he banned it because i.e. students don't learn enough math and such a new course would take away time from more important courses.

There are lots of possibilities.

Obviously DeSantis has some kind of reputation and that is why we interpret news like that with a bias. And maybe that is correct. But maybe it's not.

America and the world will not improve when everybody from the left thinks all the people on the right always do bad things and the other way around. Let's try to be open minded about what is really going on and why.

[SunnyinBangrak]

5 hours ago, Jingthing said:

From Don't Say Gay to Don't Say Black. It's disgusting that this neo fascist populist demagogue is so popular. Yeah he would be better than Trump but that's like saying eating liverwurst is better than eating cockroaches. 

 

This charlatan doesn't care about solving real problems for Floridians like the housing crisis. It's all about his divisive culture war garbage in his attempt to propel him to the presidency. Will Americans be fooled again? 

 

 

We.ve been over this false statement numerous times. There is a good article gentle debunking the disinformation surrounding what the left dishonestly call the "don't say gay bill" which does not include the wording or meaning don't say gay. It is a bill to protect young children in the school system.

 

 The WSL article after listing false - but widely accepted as fact among the msm consumers - claims by Jen Psaki and others of the left

 

"None of this criticism is true. The legislation is a response to public-school educators who think parents should stay out of school decisions. But parents have a right to ensure that the curriculum is age appropriate, and that it is focused on learning instead of promoting someone’s cultural agenda. The bill lets them vindicate parental authority."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/does-the-dont-say-gay-bill-say-that-11647041916

 

 

[SunnyinBangrak]

4 hours ago, Tug said:

Looks like old Ron  dsanblotus is doing his usual outrage theater instead of trying to govern sad ???? hope he runs for President it would be side splitting funny he and old Donnie could see just who is more of a racist gas lighter !a truly bottom dwelling piece of slime a true maga piece of (insert favorite word here)it would be fun to see just how much taxpayer dollars he’s waisted chasing imaginary voter fraud bussing asylum seekers ect ect and it would be nice to have an idea of how many have lost their lives due to his gaslighting of the Covid vaccines yup a real piece of work is old Ronnie!!

Ron  dsanblotus?

old Donnie?

gaslighting of the Covid vaccines?

bottom dwelling piece of slime a true maga piece of (insert favorite word here)?

 

Can I assume from all this you do not approve of Mr DeSantis and his campaigns to protect young children from predators(of all shapes, sizes, colors and identities) in the classroom, and want young blacks to be fed misleading narratives that will increase their feelings of being victims and destined to fail in a hostile nation, rather than to be taught the reality that we are all the same and even a layabout can become POTUS with a bit of EFFORT.

[Tug]

26 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Ron  dsanblotus?

old Donnie?

gaslighting of the Covid vaccines?

bottom dwelling piece of slime a true maga piece of (insert favorite word here)?

 

Can I assume from all this you do not approve of Mr DeSantis and his campaigns to protect young children from predators(of all shapes, sizes, colors and identities) in the classroom, and want young blacks to be fed misleading narratives that will increase their feelings of being victims and destined to fail in a hostile nation, rather than to be taught the reality that we are all the same and even a layabout can become POTUS with a bit of EFFORT.

Nope he is what he is a gas lighting waste of oxygen his policy’s are pure ignorance his gaslighting Covid vaccines has cost lives all in a quest for power as for blotus it fits to a tee im surprised old Donnie dident use it he’s not protecting any kids he’s using them he is what he is 

[Jingthing]

2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I think text like above leaves just too much space for imagination and is almost useless.

Maybe he blocked it because he doesn't want that anybody learn something about slaves or racism.

But maybe he banned it because this specific course was just bad and/or super woke. Maybe it included that all white people should feel guilty for the suppression of all black people or similar BS.

It's also possible that he banned it because i.e. students don't learn enough math and such a new course would take away time from more important courses.

There are lots of possibilities.

Obviously DeSantis has some kind of reputation and that is why we interpret news like that with a bias. And maybe that is correct. But maybe it's not.

America and the world will not improve when everybody from the left thinks all the people on the right always do bad things and the other way around. Let's try to be open minded about what is really going on and why.

His reputation is actually correct.

All fascist demagogues need scapegoats.

DeSantis is betting his career on his vile Putinesque hate tactics.

His main scapegoat of course is LGBT people but also the fake campaign against critical race theory.

 

Quacks like a duck. Is a duck. When people tell you what they are about -- believe them.

 

Ron DeSantis’s War on LGBTQ People Is Essential to His Agenda | The New Republic

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Ron DeSantis’s War on LGBTQ People Is Essential to His Agenda

The Republican is using the full force of the state government against them and their supporters.

 

 

Edited January 21, 2023 by Jingthing

[RichardColeman]

On the other hand, at least he is not coming up with mad policies to pay EVERY black person $500,000 or whatever for historic 'slave' issues like the mad insane idiots in California !

[SunnyinBangrak]

39 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

On the other hand, at least he is not coming up with mad policies to pay EVERY black person $500,000 or whatever for historic 'slave' issues like the mad insane idiots in California !

Correct, and that it is happening at all scotches the notion these people want equal treatment for all.

 

 How it started..

 

"The civil rights movement was a struggle for social justice that took place mainly during the 1950s and 1960s for Black Americans to gain equal rights under the law in the United States."

https://www.history.com/topics/black-history/civil-rights-movement

 

How it's going..

 

"San Francisco reparations committee proposes a $5 million payment to each Black resident"

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/19/us/san-francisco-reparations-proposal-reaj/index.html

[Tug]

1 hour ago, RichardColeman said:

On the other hand, at least he is not coming up with mad policies to pay EVERY black person $500,000 or whatever for historic 'slave' issues like the mad insane idiots in California !

What mad insane idiots?has a bill been voted on?has it passed?or has someone expressed that idea,is that what you are trying to say?as far as I know that hasent happened and as a native Californian (I was born in California)I can assure you that wouldent fly so please try not to tar everyone else with a statement from one 

[Thai Visa Member 999999]

4 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Ron  dsanblotus?

old Donnie?

gaslighting of the Covid vaccines?

bottom dwelling piece of slime a true maga piece of (insert favorite word here)?

 

Can I assume from all this you do not approve of Mr DeSantis and his campaigns to protect young children from predators(of all shapes, sizes, colors and identities) in the classroom, and want young blacks to be fed misleading narratives that will increase their feelings of being victims and destined to fail in a hostile nation, rather than to be taught the reality that we are all the same and even a layabout can become POTUS with a bit of EFFORT.

I'm not very familiar with the course proposed. Could you elaborate on how it is misleading. 

[JonnyF]

If this course involves racist, divisive topics such as Critical Race Theory then I think it needs to be seriously looked at.

 

Teaching racist theory is not OK just because Caucasians are the subject of the racism.

 

If ever there was a case for banning hate speech, CRT would be number 1 on the list. 

 

Sooner or later, America needs to move away from the retribution driven race baiting from the left. Especially marxist, racist, corrupt organizations like BLM that sow even more division in an already deeply divided country. 

 

 

[vandeventer]

2 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

On the other hand, at least he is not coming up with mad policies to pay EVERY black person $500,000 or whatever for historic 'slave' issues like the mad insane idiots in California !

Do Democrat's really want to go there? The truth is they were the biggest owner of slaves read the real history. 

[OneMoreFarang]

29 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Sooner or later, America needs to move away from the retribution driven race baiting from the left. Especially marxist, racist, corrupt organizations like BLM that sow even more division in an already deeply divided country. 

Do you prefer the racism of the right?

Why don't we just agree that all racism should be avoided? 

[Tug]

6 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

Do Democrat's really want to go there? The truth is they were the biggest owner of slaves read the real history. 

No they don’t and won’t it’s just gas lighting 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

If this course involves racist, divisive topics such as Critical Race Theory then I think it needs to be seriously looked at.

 

Teaching racist theory is not OK just because Caucasians are the subject of the racism.

 

If ever there was a case for banning hate speech, CRT would be number 1 on the list. 

 

Sooner or later, America needs to move away from the retribution driven race baiting from the left. Especially marxist, racist, corrupt organizations like BLM that sow even more division in an already deeply divided country. 

 

 

It doesn’t involve ‘Critical Race Theory’ which is not taught in schools and is not a ‘racist, divisive topic’.

 

All the rest of your comments stem from these first two misunderstandings of yours.

 

 

[alex8912]

This is one specific course only.  There are many African American history classes available in the Florida public school system. I think the article is biased ( as usual ) and leaving a lot out. Just more propaganda. Similar to " Don't say gay" It's cute and it rhymes, that's it. It's not true and gays especially living in Florida and have children in the system know this already. Why are there huge amounts of LGBTQ already living so happily in Florida now? Why do so many keep going there to create their future and others for retirement? It's a gay friendly welcoming place. American Blacks also are flocking there and love living there. Imagine some news network ever doing a show on that? It won't happen.  

[Jingthing]

The oppression is really happening.

The policy of the fascist DeSantis law is rooted in the intention to ERASE the existance of LGBT people including students in Florida schools UP TO GRADE 12!

In Miami there was a proposal to include some information about LGBT HISTORY in the 12th grade!

To 17 and 18 year olds.

This was rejected because of the fascist DeSantis law.

Erase the history, erase the people.

To add, I don't really believe that DeSantis hates LGBT people. Instead I think he thinks he can demagogue this issue to put him into the white house. What a total sleazeball. 

 

Putin would love this fascist law. That's how Putin started with the schools but now has gone further to criminalize anything gay (such as in books or movies) for the entire population. Schools were the first step and may well be in the US as well. 

 

Equality FL Responds to Miami Dade Public Schools Vote to Reject LGBTQ History Month | Equality Florida (eqfl.org)

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STATEMENT: Equality Florida Responds to Miami-Dade School Board Vote to Reject LGBTQ History Month

MIAMI, FL -- Last night, the Miami Dade School Board rejected, by an 8-1 vote, a proclamation recognizing October as LGBTQ History Month in the district. This simple, non-binding resolution was nearly identical to a similar resolution passed with a 7-1 vote of support by the same Board just last year. The measure, introduced by Board Member Lucia Baez Geller, would have symbolically declared October LGBTQ History Month in Miami Dade County Public Schools and included a request to district staff to explore ways to support 12th grade civics teachers interested in including landmark Supreme Court cases on marriage equality and nondiscrimination in their course work

 

 

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It doesn’t involve ‘Critical Race Theory’ which is not taught in schools and is not a ‘racist, divisive topic’.

 

All the rest of your comments stem from these first two misunderstandings of yours.

 

 

The reactionary "anti wokes" that rail against CRT almost never can actually define CRT if you ask them directly. 

[thecyclist]

13 hours ago, Jingthing said:

From Don't Say Gay to Don't Say Black. It's disgusting that this neo fascist populist demagogue is so popular. Yeah he would be better than Trump but that's like saying eating liverwurst is better than eating cockroaches. 

 

This charlatan doesn't care about solving real problems for Floridians like the housing crisis. It's all about his divisive culture war garbage in his attempt to propel him to the presidency. Will Americans be fooled again? 

 

 

Comparing cockroaches to Trump is an insult to cockroaches. Although being hideous creatures, they do serve some valuable purpose within the ecosystem. The orange retard is a wrecker of ecosystems, a merely destructive force, an imminent danger to human life, so hideous inside and out, that extermination is a moral imperative. 

A similar case could be made for the Floridian Neofascist and liverwurst. 

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, thecyclist said:

Comparing cockroaches to Trump is an insult to cockroaches. Although being hideous creatures, they do serve some valuable purpose within the ecosystem. The orange retard is a wrecker of ecosystems, a merely destructive force, an imminent danger to human life, so hideous inside and out, that extermination is a moral imperative. 

A similar case could be made for the Floridian Neofascist and liverwurst. 

I realize a lot of people actually like liverwurst but sorry I really really don't like cockroaches and wouldn't like to eat them either.

[jaywalker]

7 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

This man is so sad and out of touch with reality. He might was well be saying we don't want to face our past and it is not good for us white men to learn and progress. So, let us "whitewash" the books and just deny and forget.

 

I sure hope some of his skeletons get unearthed. He would not make a good, or forward thinking leader. 

In Florida now. Have been the past couple years.

 

I have a daughter. She is a girly girl. I have a son he os a macho man.

 

Governor Desantis is a "wapaho" Indian. He's a gangster WOP. If you want your boy to think it's OK to be a girl, or your pretty baby girl to think she should be all BUTCH....That's fine. UP2U.

 

Just NOT in public schools, in Florida. I kinda like THAT IDEOLOGY.

 

If you want your kid to identify as a SEEDLESS WATERMELON FROM MARS. that's your choice. live and let live.....but the Left will NEVER just leave us normal folks alone.

 

My son has a penis.

 

My daughter has a vagina.

 

End of story.

Edited January 21, 2023 by jaywalker

[Jingthing]

11 minutes ago, jaywalker said:

In Florida now. Have been the past couple years.

 

I have a daughter. She is a girly girl. I have a son he os a macho man.

 

Governor Desantis is a "wapaho" Indian. He's a gangster WOP. If you want your boy to think it's OK to be a girl, or your pretty baby girl to think she should be all BUTCH....That's fine. UP2U.

 

Just NOT in public schools, in Florida. I kinda like THAT IDEOLOGY.

 

If you want your kid to identify as a SEEDLESS WATERMELON FROM MARS. that's your choice. live and let live.....but the Left will NEVER just leave us normal folks alone.

 

My son has a penis.

 

My daughter has a vagina.

 

End of story.

Whatever, dude, but if your macho son turns out to be gay, please still love him the same. 

[Trippy]

Summary of politics in 2023:

 

If you don't think like me, I Hate you.  I'm always right, and you're always wrong. 

 

The end.