God is neither male nor female': Church of England is considering gender-neutral terms

[xtrnuno41]

GN (as now god is gender neutral) didnt had problems creating Adam, but needed the rib of Adam to create a woman, Eve.

He saw Adam was alone and therefor tada Eve. And what Eve brought? Destruction.

Well it is a story from the bible.

Then some time further, there was a Noah. Built a ship (took him a century!) and stayed alive, while all other people died. They really seemed to grow old in those days.

yha yha he had his wife and 3 sons. It seems his sons had wives. All of the wives had incredible names, compared to just the males.

So why you create a world population on those figures and keep on going with these creations? GN could have made total new ones and start from scratch again, as he wasnt pleased with the old creation. No, GN keeps on playing with old material and of course fails again.

 

Some later injects some seed in a woman and tada , his son. We know he created Adam from scratch. Complicated way of GN to do so. But guess GN likes to fool around a bit.

By the miracles his son did and some talking about his "father", he was his son.

Today we have Dynamo, magician. He walks over water, straight down from a wall and let fish flow out an empty bucket and also talks about his grandfather as model. He must be GN's son. Therefor his grandfather is GN?

Im in a matrix? Maybe, no one has ever proven it im not, same as a GN.

 

Now we try to be GN, as they are working on bringing back the woolly mammoth and the dodo. It would be good to control the tundra's in Russia

Korea is capable of cloning your dog and you can order your old dog in new package.

I bet some other inventions were done, but you still dont know about.

 

[vandeventer]

God a male or a female? We will all find out one day and all God asks is for us to trust in HIM!

[Will B Good]

19 hours ago, bangon04 said:

In addition to Stephen Fry, I recommend Christopher Hitchens .

....and Richard Dawkins

[transam]

8 hours ago, hotchilli said:

There is rather compelling evidence to suggest it did happen.

Yes, I am sure there is, but I would love to hear from Dino about it....????

[transam]

7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Nominally. He's also head of state of NZ but he gets no say in how it's run.

Head of Church in NZ....?

[xylophone]

5 hours ago, vandeventer said:

God a male or a female? We will all find out one day and all God asks is for us to trust in HIM!

[Bluespunk]

5 hours ago, vandeventer said:

God a male or a female? We will all find out one day and all God asks is for us to trust in HIM!

Not going to happen…

[Walker88]

13 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Firstly, why do you ascribe human qualities to God. Do you think God is a human?

 

Secondly, why do you think God cares about an insignificant species on an insignificant planet in an insignificant solar system in an insignificant galaxy?

A species that is so demented it is busily destroying the wonderful planet it was given to live on and invests most of it's effort in killing each other. If God had human emotions likely God would have exterminated us by now so a better dominant species could emerge.

I ascribe human qualities to all deities. I'm ecumenical in that way. I do that because all of the evidence screams that every single deity, whether yahweh or zeus or thor or bokonon or any other are all figments of human imagination and---in many instances---need.

 

So we get deities okay with things like slavery (just treat them well, as the bible says) or human sacrifice or eternal damnation for not being sufficiently appreciative or groveling, or even demanding humans correct 'celestial quality control errors' like giving women pleasure buttons between their legs that must be sliced off.

 

Humans---not all, but many---manufactured deities to give them simple and easy answers when precious little was understood about the nature of reality. Many humans also needed badly to believe someone or someones were in control and that life---which used to suck badly---wasn't all. As quality of life improved and science began to understand the nature of reality, deities became increasingly unnecessary, or at best had many of their powers stripped away. Rationality took hold.

 

Some make a silly argument that deities are necessary in order to instill morality in humans (despite most deities being okay with the obscene immorality of slavery). Those who so argue would have us believe moses came down from the mountain with a couple of stone tablets, gathered his mates, and announced, "Got some bad news, guys...we can't murder, rape or steal".

 

Randomness---which existence is at the level of humans (though physical laws apply) is just too much for many people to accept. There can be no deal with randomness, no promise. There is the possibility of a deal with even the most malevolent deity, and many humans find that more comforting than "non-existence->birth->life->death->non-existence".

 

The thread is silly and---like all religion---a product of its time and the needs of believers. Male or female?  JFC! Of course that could get in the way of the 'knocking up the Earthgirl' thing.

 

I never knew why it was once considered 'civilized' to have just one deity, the old monotheism thing. Why not a couple? A team? How about competing teams who take turns 'creating' Universes to see which team does it best?

 

And why all this "loves YOU" stuff, when everything from childhood cancer to tsunamis says the deity/deities are vicious and sadistic sons of b!tches.

 

Believe as you need. Just don't expect others to embrace the fantasy you embrace. And PLEASE, if you're going to have a deity or two, make sure they're omnipotent and don't need any Earthlings help to address 'transgressions' like blasphemy, heresy, apostasy, cartoon drawing, etc. Monarchs, maybe, can install lese majeste laws, but omnipotent deities ought to be able to straighten things out without anyone's help.

[Walker88]

14 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I guess that was a rhetorical question.

No, it's a real question.

 

Why -eternity to -13.8 billion years just to toss one sentient species on one planet in a galaxy of a trillion stars in a Universe of 200,000,000,000+ galaxies?

 

Why the need to be praised and loved? Sounds like a former POTUS I know, as in the worst of human frailties.

 

It seems an inefficient use of 10^56 hydrogen atoms if all one really needs is a bunch of home sapiens to tell it how great of a guy it is.

[Mac Mickmanus]

11 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

 

Why the need to be praised and loved? Sounds like a former POTUS I know, as in the worst of human frailties.

 

Have you tried reading the Bible or listening to Trumps speeches with an open mind ?

   If you have the faith and belief , you would naturally praise the person who enlightened you .

   Trump and Jesus do deserve some recognition from the enlightened 

[Kwasaki]

7 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Have you tried reading the Bible or listening to Trumps speeches with an open mind ?

   If you have the faith and belief , you would naturally praise the person who enlightened you .

   Trump and Jesus do deserve some recognition from the enlightened 

The sad and the laughing emoji are definitely needed ( ad interventions)  That said put away childish things (ad intervention) when you are an adult.

[Baht Simpson]

13 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Have you tried reading the Bible or listening to Trumps speeches with an open mind ?

   If you have the faith and belief , you would naturally praise the person who enlightened you .

   Trump and Jesus do deserve some recognition from the enlightened 

????

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 minutes ago, Baht Simpson said:

????

Could you give an exaptation of why you posted the video ?

Trump says the Bible..............................and ?

[Baht Simpson]

17 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Could you give an exaptation of why you posted the video ?

Trump says the Bible..............................and ?

Just listening to Trump with an open mind as you suggested Mac.  I made no comment so people can make their own mind up as to Trump's supposed faith.

[Scott]

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