6 hours ago, proton said:

Look depressed is it the singing practice?

It's because it was caught doing something it knew it shouldn't be doing

19 hours ago, Andre0720 said:

"There is nothing such as a bad dog, only bad owners."

As long as such narratives are still used, the tragedies will keep on happening.

No such thing as a bad dog, then one would have to explain why, for example, Pit Bulls could not be used by police, who consider them too dangerous and uncontrollable to be of any use.

And this appears to suggest that poodles and Pit Bulls, well, they are all dogs, same family of animals.

As if a poodle raised by a bad owner would start killing the neighbors and owners as well.

 

What a terrible end. A brave man.

What can you say about a dog that has a long history of attacking.

Ignorant owners caging up an animal, or perhaps caging because as it matured it simply became obvious it was dangerous and they had nowhere to go to seek training and behaviour amendment.

I imagine zero socialisation with other animals or people as the article seems to hint at, indicate.

ALL dogs have the capacity to bite. Some because of their breeding are particularly dangerous and bred specifically as specialist killing dogs from past centuries (bear killing).

We have dogs, all socialised and well trained, and not bred, designed with a 'strong predation instinct' to hunt and kill.

 

I love animals, but say put this animal down quietly with the 2 needles immediately! 

 

 

If one of those things bit me it would get a beer bottle hamburger over the wall in the middle of the night,

13 hours ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

Where does it say I allow it to 'sit on the furniture'? She jumped on the chair when we weren't looking. As a good owner she didn't remain there longer than it took to take the picture. Nice try nchuckle

Fair enough…  ???? 

11 hours ago, Andre0720 said:

Well, agree.

"Instead of spending $10,000 to $15,000 for a trained Belgian [Malinois] or GSD [German Shepherd], they are now taking pit bulls from shelters and training them, and they are proving themselves to be amazing police and military K9s."

Dogs are selected from shelter Austin Pets Alive! and trained by Universal K9, before being placed in police departments around the country at no charge.

The New York-based Animal Farm Foundation provides a sponsorship to Universal K9 to contribute to the cost of the training. Since the program started two years ago, 11 pit bulls have been placed with police departments.

 

All for the sake of saving money. 11 Pit Bulls were able to be trained. So obviously, some are trainable.

The problem is to eliminate those Pit Bulls that have the instinct of biting and shaking whatever they were able to grab, and render someone handicapped.

Does not happen with German Shepherds. Which simply bite, and hold, without causing damage.

So how could these 11 Pit Bulls, saved from euthanasia perhaps, compensate for all these people, many of which children, were injured by so many Pit Bulls.

Just look at the pictures of injured people. from Pit Bull compared to German Shepherds.

I hope it does not happen to members of your family.

You have no idea about the power of a bite,most people bitten by a PSD

have to go to the hospital before going to jail.

They can do a of of damage

 

 

12 hours ago, IslandLover said:

They sell them for huge amounts of money and the transaction is usually done down the local pub.

The pub nearest my mates gaff in Ormskirk sometimes has old, unwashed 7-series Beemers and the occasional dinged up Evoque with Burberry seat covers blocking the kerb. When we see this, we know the chav pit bull breeders are having a sale.

These PETS should be illegal everywhere

 

Ownership dign of poor breeding (the owner)

 

3 minutes ago, SuperSilverHaze said:

These PETS should be illegal everywhere

Should we just stop at Pit Bulls?      

 

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10 Potentially Dangerous Dog Breeds to Be Aware Of

• Alaskan Malamutes. These are large dogs originally bred for hauling loads. ...
• Chow Chows. These are compactly built dogs known for their strong protective instincts. ...
• Dalmatians. ...
• Doberman Pinschers. ...
• German Shepherds. ...
• Great Danes. ...
• Pit Bull Terriers. ...
• Rottweilers.

 

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1 minute ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

Should we just stop at Pit Bulls?      

 

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Well the thing is if you ban one breed then people will find another breed

to abuse.

All dogs are dangerous in a way.

15 hours ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

Here's my man eater.   

yeah have a big laugh after reading how a pit attacked 10 people then finally killed it's owner by ripping his guts out....hilarious..until it happens to you or your family

12 hours ago, IslandLover said:

Ironic that so many fatal dog attacks occur in Liverpool.

Which Liverpool?

On 2/10/2023 at 10:11 AM, Andre0720 said:

"There is nothing such as a bad dog, only bad owners."

As long as such narratives are still used, the tragedies will keep on happening.

No such thing as a bad dog, then one would have to explain why, for example, Pit Bulls could not be used by police, who consider them too dangerous and uncontrollable to be of any use.

And this appears to suggest that poodles and Pit Bulls, well, they are all dogs, same family of animals.

As if a poodle raised by a bad owner would start killing the neighbors and owners as well.

 

What is the point of having such a dangerous dog at home? Impressing people? Snobbery? Sheer stupidity? Aren’t there enough other kinds of dogs on the market that make wonderful and safe companions? Sorry for the guy who lost his life: one more victim to such a dog. People who choose a pit bull as a companion are crazy.

Maybe the reason  as to why people have problems with Pit Bulls?

 

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Pit Bulls are the most abused dogs in the world.

In addition to thousands of Pit Bulls mistreated and abused by their owners, many of them die every year in dogfighting rings.

https://petpedia.co/pit-bull-statistics/#:~:text=Pit Bulls are the most abused dogs in the world.,-(PETA)&text=In addition to thousands of,every year in dogfighting rings.

 

Above a must read. 

Other dogs that show more aggression than Pit Bulls include the tiny Yorkshire Terriers (83.7% pass rate), Corgis (79.6%), and Chihuahuas (69.6%).

17 hours ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

Here's my man eater.   

???? Until it does, and what then?

1 hour ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

Maybe the reason  as to why people have problems with Pit Bulls?

 

https://petpedia.co/pit-bull-statistics/#:~:text=Pit Bulls are the most abused dogs in the world.,-(PETA)&text=In addition to thousands of,every year in dogfighting rings.

 

Above a must read. 

Other dogs that show more aggression than Pit Bulls include the tiny Yorkshire Terriers (83.7% pass rate), Corgis (79.6%), and Chihuahuas (69.6%).

and the bite strength of a terrier or chuahauas is not even in same league as a pit bull...getting bitten by a litle lapdog sure can hurt but the chances are excellent that it will not be fatal..

 

.seems you missed the point is not so much that you might get bitten it is that with a pit they do not just nip and run...they want to rip your throat or guts out and often the only way to get them to let go is to shoot them...one good punch to a terrier and you win...not so with pit bull attacks...

10 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Which Liverpool?

In the UK.  Liverpool and its districts.

15 hours ago, Tropposurfer said:

What a terrible end. A brave man.

What can you say about a dog that has a long history of attacking.

Ignorant owners caging up an animal, or perhaps caging because as it matured it simply became obvious it was dangerous and they had nowhere to go to seek training and behaviour amendment.

I imagine zero socialisation with other animals or people as the article seems to hint at, indicate.

ALL dogs have the capacity to bite. Some because of their breeding are particularly dangerous and bred specifically as specialist killing dogs from past centuries (bear killing).

We have dogs, all socialised and well trained, and not bred, designed with a 'strong predation instinct' to hunt and kill.

 

I love animals, but say put this animal down quietly with the 2 needles immediately! 

 

 

I think some people seem to forget that the ancestor of the domestic dog is the wolf.  Sometimes they revert to type.

11 hours ago, jvs said:

Well the thing is if you ban one breed then people will find another breed

to abuse.

All dogs are dangerous in a way.

Domestic dogs are descended from the wolf.  Sometimes they revert to type.

9 hours ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

Maybe the reason  as to why people have problems with Pit Bulls?

 

https://petpedia.co/pit-bull-statistics/#:~:text=Pit Bulls are the most abused dogs in the world.,-(PETA)&text=In addition to thousands of,every year in dogfighting rings.

 

Above a must read. 

Other dogs that show more aggression than Pit Bulls include the tiny Yorkshire Terriers (83.7% pass rate), Corgis (79.6%), and Chihuahuas (69.6%).

Yep, even the late Queen Elizabeth II's corgis were known for biting people. ????

8 hours ago, IslandLover said:

Domestic dogs are descended from the wolf.  Sometimes they revert to type.

Can be said of all creatures on the planet.

I know many Thais that train their dogs to attach strangers...

1 hour ago, BEngBKK said:

I know many Thais that train their dogs to attach strangers...

There you go,you mean "attack" strangers?

How do they do that?Teaching aggression without control is a recipe

for disaster.

I can guarantee you there are not many qualified trainers in Thailand.

1 hour ago, BEngBKK said:

I know many Thais that train their dogs to attach strangers...

I don't think the word is 'train'. I think the Thais just 'ignore' their dogs when attacking strangers as it serves a purpose and sends a message to potential burglars.

3 hours ago, BEngBKK said:

I know many Thais that train their dogs to attach strangers...

"I know many..."

 Many?    How many?  

What sort of people do you hang around with?

1 hour ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

3 hours ago, BEngBKK said:

I know many Thais that train their dogs to attach strangers...

I don't think the word is 'train'. I think the Thais just 'ignore' their dogs

I think that he's just "exaggerating", to use a kinder word than I want to.   I don't think that many foreigners really know "many Thais" and the chances that "many" of those Thais that they do know train their dogs that way stretches the bounds of credibility.  Unless he's a member of a dog club!

On 2/12/2023 at 12:37 AM, IvorBiggun2 said:

Can be said of all creatures on the planet.

Yep, some humans revert to being Neanderthals, or worse! ????

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