Object over Northern Canada shot down, Trudeau says

[Scott]

 

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau ordered the downing of a high altitude object over Canadian airspace on Saturday, he said in a tweet.

“I ordered the take down of an unidentified object that violated Canadian airspace. @NORADCommand shot down the object over the Yukon. Canadian and U.S. aircraft were scrambled, and a U.S. F-22 successfully fired at the object,” Trudeau said.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/02/11/politics/norad-additional-object-northern-canada/index.html

[Tug]

Something is up NAS Miramar and NAS San Diego seem to be humming I’m sure curious as to who’s craft they are not smart to keep poking America in the eye

[pegman]

20 minutes ago, Tug said:

Something is up NAS Miramar and NAS San Diego seem to be humming I’m sure curious as to who’s craft they are not smart to keep poking America in the eye

Yeah, kinda  like it wasn't smart for Nancy to go to Taiwan. Did Biden really think that wouldn't be responded to? 

[Hanaguma]

53 minutes ago, pegman said:

Yeah, kinda  like it wasn't smart for Nancy to go to Taiwan. Did Biden really think that wouldn't be responded to? 

I agree that she shouldn't have gone. She is a domestic political leader and should steer clear of most international policy- it ain't her bailiwick.  But there is nothing wrong with the principle of reinforcing the reality that Taiwan is an independent, sovereign nation.

[vandeventer]

Are there no pictures of the last 2 objects that where shot down? Surely the pilots would have taken many pictures before shooting them down?

[daveAustin]

PRC pushing its luck. I think they should be nuked (60 years ago), but that's just me. ????

[Tug]

1 hour ago, pegman said:

Yeah, kinda  like it wasn't smart for Nancy to go to Taiwan. Did Biden really think that wouldn't be responded to? 

Yea right we here in the USA must kowtow to China .nope the speaker of the house was 100% right to travel to Taiwan and show the flag.looks like our guys are getting some free target practice.that’s if they are from china could be from N Korea or perhaps comrade Putin 

[Hummin]

1 hour ago, Hanaguma said:

I agree that she shouldn't have gone. She is a domestic political leader and should steer clear of most international policy- it ain't her bailiwick.  But there is nothing wrong with the principle of reinforcing the reality that Taiwan is an independent, sovereign nation.

Thats the question, does really Taiwan have sovereignty, or is it still part of China? 

 

Only 13 countries recognize Taiwan. 

 

China will never give up Thaiwan, we know that, so there will be great consequences trying to protect the the government there. Thaiwan have been part of China since 1683, why should they give it up? Why would they? 

[Hanaguma]

6 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Thats the question, does really Taiwan have sovereignty, or is it still part of China? 

 

Only 13 countries recognize Taiwan. 

 

China will never give up Thaiwan, we know that, so there will be great consequences trying to protect the the government there. Thaiwan have been part of China since 1683, why should they give it up? Why would they? 

More countries used to recognize Taiwan until the PRC began to flex their muscles and forced them to make political choices.  China has already given up Taiwan but they just can't acknowledge it. The Taiwanese do not want to be part of the mainland, they loathe the CPC. 

[Hummin]

14 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

More countries used to recognize Taiwan until the PRC began to flex their muscles and forced them to make political choices.  China has already given up Taiwan but they just can't acknowledge it. The Taiwanese do not want to be part of the mainland, they loathe the CPC. 

We will see, and with more distractions from NK, Russia, Iran, a few Islam fractions, as well internal problems in Usa, we will know soon enough. 

 

Predictions of a war after the elections in 24 have been heard many times now, and also the csis war game with the outcomes of a war as well.

 

Not exactly a bright future we have ahead of us.

 

 https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/01/27/us-general-minihan-china-war-2025/

 

 

 

https://www.airandspaceforces.com/csis-simulation-offers-rare-look-us-china-taiwan-world-of-wargaming/

Edited February 12, 2023 by Hummin

[pegman]

2 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

I agree that she shouldn't have gone. She is a domestic political leader and should steer clear of most international policy- it ain't her bailiwick.  But there is nothing wrong with the principle of reinforcing the reality that Taiwan is an independent, sovereign nation.

I thought the USA had a one China policy?

[VocalNeal]

My take???? It is not simply the big island of Taiwan. Taiwan claims many small islands a few kms from the Chinese mainland.

[Hummin]

Why didnt Canada shoot it down by themselves? Must be embarrassing to let the Americans do it for them.

[Social Media]

A US F-22 stealth fighter jet has shot down an unidentified cylindrical object over Canada - the second incident of its type in as many days.

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced the latest shootdown had occurred over the mountainous and sparsely-populated territory of Yukon in the northwest.

 

Canada's Defence Minister Anita Anand would not speculate on where the object came from.

She described it as cylindrical in shape but said it was smaller than the Chinese balloon shot down off the coast of South Carolina in the US a week ago.

It was flying at 40,000ft and posed a risk to civilian air traffic when it was brought down about 100 miles from the border at 3.41pm EST (8.41pm GMT), she added.

[VocalNeal]

19 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Why didnt Canada shoot it down by themselves? Must be embarrassing to let the Americans do it for them.

Cheaper????

Closer????

Edited February 12, 2023 by VocalNeal

[Danderman123]

Weather balloon.

[Hummin]

Just now, VocalNeal said:

Cheaper????

And if damaged or hurt Canadian property and citizens, could blaim Usa Airforce?

 

My best guess, Americans shot it down without asking!? I just cant believe the proud Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau would let the Americans have the shot, unless the Canadians did not have proper arms with them.

[chickenslegs]

[VocalNeal]

4 minutes ago, Hummin said:

And if damaged or hurt Canadian property and citizens, could blaim Usa Airforce?

 

My best guess, Americans shot it down without asking!? I just cant believe the proud Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau would let the Americans have the shot, unless the Canadians did not have proper arms with them.

Anchorage is closer to Yukon than BC or Alberta. I believe it was officially shot down by NORAD. 

Why spend money when your loud neighbor will do it for you.

[Hummin]

4 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

Anchorage is closer to Yukon than BC or Alberta. I believe it was officially shot down by NORAD. 

Why spend money when your loud neighbor will do it for you.

A missile worth 150k usd?

[pegman]

12 minutes ago, Hummin said:

And if damaged or hurt Canadian property and citizens, could blaim Usa Airforce?

 

My best guess, Americans shot it down without asking!? I just cant believe the proud Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau would let the Americans have the shot, unless the Canadians did not have proper arms with them.

A general in my city was in command of those NORAD jets. F-22's from Alaska & CF-18's from Cold Lake, Alberta.  Instructions given were that whichever plane had the best clear shot was to take it 

[VocalNeal]

12 minutes ago, Hummin said:

A missile worth 150k usd?

Well, Canada doesn't have as much money as the US.???? Maybe because they don't tax citizens living  abroad. 

[Hummin]

14 minutes ago, pegman said:

A general in my city was in command of those NORAD jets. F-22's from Alaska & CF-18's from Cold Lake, Alberta.  Instructions given were that whichever plane had the best clear shot was to take it 

I just become aware of Norad and its purpose of command.

 

 

[stoner]

57 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Why didnt Canada shoot it down by themselves? Must be embarrassing to let the Americans do it for them.

eh.

[stoner]

27 minutes ago, Hummin said:

A missile worth 150k usd?

aren't most missiles pretty expensive ? tomahawk bunker buster 9.7 version update alpha command. 

[Hummin]

1 minute ago, stoner said:

aren't most missiles pretty expensive ? tomahawk bunker buster 9.7 version update alpha command. 

I doubt they used a bunker buster ????

[stoner]

9 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I doubt they used a bunker buster ????

knowing canada they probably dropped a brick out the window of the plane. 

[Kwasaki]

4 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

I agree that she shouldn't have gone. She is a domestic political leader and should steer clear of most international policy- it ain't her bailiwick.  But there is nothing wrong with the principle of reinforcing the reality that Taiwan is an independent, sovereign nation.

How often has this repeated line "Independent sovereign nation " been used, it is not taken much notice of these days when countries believe it belongs to them. 

[Emdog]

I agree China should have one government. The one in Taiwan. What they have done on that island in the last 75 outshines any growth the PRC may have had. And after much struggle, they are a democracy.

[Kwasaki]

1 hour ago, chickenslegs said:

 

That's done it they will be assimilated.