Chang Wattana Annual Extension - heads up guys. Important!

[cliveshep]

Where before Chang Wattana Immigration wanted one copy only they have now only recently changed that to 2 copies. So all the millions of papers needed for an annual extension must now be submitted in duplicate. Anyone who was in Chang Wattana today around 1.30pm might have heard an exasperated farang, on being given the less than welcome news causing him to miss his pre-booked slot, loudly exclaim "Fer fecks sake, what is WRONG with you people?" He (I really of course) was not alone in his frustration and the photo-copy booth downstairs has been doing a roaring trade for angry applicants caught out by this sudden change of requirement that no one told us about. 

[ozfarang]

I use an agent to avoid all this.

[DrJack54]

11 minutes ago, cliveshep said:

Where before Chang Wattana Immigration wanted one copy only they have now only recently changed that to 2 copies

Was this for extension based on marriage or retirement? 

[TaoNow]

If OP is referring to an extension based on retirement with money in the bank, then the only forms I prepare are the following:

 

1. The application form with photo

2. A map to my home in Bangkok

3. A photocopy of my last 90-day report receipt

4. A photocopy of my passport photo page, and visa/latest extension pages

5. A photocopy of my updated fixed savings account bank book (pages dating back one year)

6. A bank letter verifying the balance, and

7.  A bank statement for the previous 12 months.

 

Not really "millions" of photocopies.

 

Indeed, I keep multiple copies of these documents on hand in any case when I visit Immo.

 

What's the problem?

[tubby johnson]

26 minutes ago, TaoNow said:

What's the problem?

Didn't you read the OP?

 

Read it again.

[chippendale]

41 minutes ago, TaoNow said:

What's the problem?

What you don't seem to understand is that whereas until now a single copy of all documents has always been enough, the Immigration staff have suddenly foisted their demand for double copies on unsuspecting clients, causing a lot of delays and even longer queues. All too avoidable if they had either announced this well in advance or simply deemed the extra paperwork unnecessary.

[cliveshep]

Well said Tubby Johnson. Loads of us turned up with a folder all prepared as for last year only to get caught out and send "er indoors" (who is far younger with very shapely and beautiful working legs) down for more copies. 

 

Yes - not millions, just a slight exageration but it is a serious amount of paper mostly repeated every year, and in the case of passport pages every 3 months with the posted 90-day report. Incidentally signed up for internet reporting in spite of the Royal Thai Embassy warning foreigners not to trust their internet  - sites nor software. I kid you not, they actually say that.

 

Immigration assert they posted the receipt last month, still waiting! They blame the postal service but even so it took them 2 months to post a reply as it arrived at CW on 22nd December 2022 (tracked) and to date the receipt has not arrived.

 

Back on topic - extension based on marriage Dr Jack, but if you think it won't also apply to one based on retirement do please let us know if you go to CW with only one copy of everything and get a "flea in your ear" huh?

 

[homeseeker]

So, it's for marriage extension, right? Not retirement?

Someone please clarify.

 

If correct only marriage then kindly put this in the thread title...:

CW Annual Marriage extension

Edited March 2, 2023 by homeseeker

[John Drake]

Unnecessarily blindsided. But I would like to know if anybody else at CW today submitting for a retirement extension also had to provide two copies of all paperwork. I usually go in with two copies anyway (including bank book) but still it seems poorly thought out doing this without prior notification. Of course, today's turmoil could be what immigration considers "notification."

[Jack1988]

I just renewed my annual marriage extension and yes I already knew that now immigration need two copies of every paper work because I went to ask one month in advance before submitting my application. They also wanted my wife and I signed all of our photos around and outside the house. We prepared all the paper work in hour house as we have a printer, the next day we went to submit it to the immigration and everything went great. Payed just 1900 BHT!

Edited March 2, 2023 by Jack1988

[Jack1988]

2 hours ago, ozfarang said:

I use an agent to avoid all this.

yeah but is too expensive. I do it alone and I just pay 1900 bhat at the immigration for one year. I prepared all the paper work at home, it only took less than one hour

[ozfarang]

9 minutes ago, Jack1988 said:

yeah but is too expensive. I do it alone and I just pay 1900 bhat at the immigration for one year. I prepared all the paper work at home, it only took less than one hour

Yeah, but I'm prepared to pay for convenience and only deal with Immigration at the border on exit and entry

[phetphet]

2 hours ago, TaoNow said:

If OP is referring to an extension based on retirement with money in the bank, then the only forms I prepare are the following:

 

1. The application form with photo

2. A map to my home in Bangkok

3. A photocopy of my last 90-day report receipt

4. A photocopy of my passport photo page, and visa/latest extension pages

5. A photocopy of my updated fixed savings account bank book (pages dating back one year)

6. A bank letter verifying the balance, and

7.  A bank statement for the previous 12 months.

 

Not really "millions" of photocopies.

 

Indeed, I keep multiple copies of these documents on hand in any case when I visit Immo.

 

What's the problem?

Is that all?

 

We also have to provide photocopies of all passport pages, a hand drawn map (it seems the Google Maps one with GPS co-ordinates isn't enough), a medical certificate, and sign another form stating that we understand all the visa rules and the consequences for breaking them.

 

Oh! And all must be in portrait layout.

Plus they keep slightly changing the visa application form TM.7? and will refuse to accept any older versions. Makes it almost impossible to scan and keep as a .pdf to fill in on computer.

 

[OneMoreFarang]

3 hours ago, cliveshep said:

might have heard an exasperated farang, on being given the less than welcome news causing him to miss his pre-booked slot, loudly exclaim "Fer fecks sake, what is WRONG with you people?"

And lots of Thais will have heard that and probably they thought: What is wrong with that guy?

Or more in general: What is wrong with those farangs who like to swear?

 

Stay cool, relax, you won't get better or faster service when you behave like that. They should have escorted you outside the building to give you a chance to cool down.

 

[DrJack54]

23 minutes ago, phetphet said:

We also have to provide photocopies of all passport pages, a hand drawn map (it seems the Google Maps one with GPS co-ordinates isn't enough), a medical certificate, and sign another form stating that we understand all the visa rules and the consequences for breaking them.

Which immigration office requires photocopies of  ALL pages of pp 

along with medical certificate? 

 

[Hamus Yaigh]

3 hours ago, ozfarang said:

I use an agent to avoid all this.

One can use an agent for anything in life. What's your point?

[OneMoreFarang]

43 minutes ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

One can use an agent for anything in life. What's your point?

Maybe his point is that if you can't keep your cool for an hour then maybe let someone else do it for you.

[soi3eddie]

Thanks to @cliveshepfor this update. I use CW and will be going at end of March for 4th retirement extension so your notice is very useful. WhyTheF they want all this extra paper now? At least I can be prepared. Only issues before was when I got barked at by female IO for printing a scan of passport rather than a photocopy. 

 

[DrJack54]

7 minutes ago, soi3eddie said:

. I use CW and will be going at end of March for 4th retirement extension so your notice is very useful

I would wait for a post regarding extension based on retirement at CW.

The OP post was regarding extension based on marriage however that was not made clear. 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 2, 2023 by DrJack54

[soi3eddie]

4 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

I would wait for a post regarding extension based on retirement at CW.

The OP post was regarding extension based on marriage however that was not made clear. 

@DrJack54Thanks. The few times that I have seen any grief at CW L desks has always been marriage extensions. Seems the burdens are way too onerous. I really have never had any issues with retirement extension but live in fear (and hope for the best). ???? 

  

[DrJack54]

Just now, soi3eddie said:

@DrJack54Thanks. The few times that I have seen any grief at CW L desks has always been marriage extensions. Seems the burdens are way too onerous. I really have never had any issues with retirement extension but live in fear (and hope for the best). ???? 

  

Slightly off topic , but my last extension retirement at CW , Nov last year I was hassled regarding only providing bank book pages photocopies.

 

I use dedicated bank account and there were some months with zero activity. 

Almost was refused despite that being ok for 10 years.

 

They are bunch of A.H.

This year I will bring along bank statements.

 

[soi3eddie]

14 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Slightly off topic , but my last extension retirement at CW , Nov last year I was hassled regarding only providing bank book pages photocopies.

 

I use dedicated bank account and there were some months with zero activity. 

Almost was refused despite that being ok for 10 years.

 

They are bunch of A.H.

This year I will bring along bank statements.

 

I always have done 12 month bank statements as well. Switched to dedicated account for the 800K two years ago but that also has frequent deposits from overseas and then outflows to my main account for monthly expenses so no issues with dormancy. One thing for sure, we never know what nasty surprises they have in store for us until we get there. Part of the excitement of wanting to be here I suppose ???? I'll be doing double copies anyway this year just in case.

 

 

[freedomnow]

5 hours ago, ozfarang said:

I use an agent to avoid all this.

Well, that is the point of changing the goal posts as much as they can, isn't it ?

[tomazbodner]

5 hours ago, ozfarang said:

I use an agent to avoid all this.

Do you guys use agents to serve your wives and girlfriends as well? Use agent seems to be answer to everything...

[Maybole]

"the photo-copy booth downstairs has been doing a roaring trade"

There is the real reason for the change, extorting more money.

[Kaptain Asia]

I did my extension a couple of weeks back and the IO wanted a receipt of my last 90 day report (which I didn't have with me) before handing my passport over. 

She did eventually give me my passport but warned me to have a printout for any future extensions - so just be aware that they might try to trip you up with that requirement.

 

Edited March 2, 2023 by Kaptain Asia

[DrJack54]

2 minutes ago, Kaptain Asia said:

I did my extension a couple of weeks back and the IO wanted a receipt of my last 90 day report (which I didn't have with me) before handing my passport over

That is correct.

My last extension retirement was Nov 2022 and first time ever the doc check chicks wanted my 90 day report TM47 receipt.

Just making up more rubbish.

 

The OP is reporting about 2 copies for documents. 

Was that a requirement for your extension based on retirement.

Guessing answer : NO

[Kaptain Asia]

7 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

The OP is reporting about 2 copies for documents. 

Was that a requirement for your extension based on retirement.

Guessing answer : NO

No, I wasn't asked for duplicate docs but just giving a heads up as per the thread title.

 

[DrJack54]

4 minutes ago, Kaptain Asia said:

No, I wasn't asked for duplicate docs but just giving a heads up as per the thread title.

 

The OP thread title was vague 

Turns out to be extension based on marriage. 

So your extension based on retirement recently at CW duplicate not required.

Pretty much what I suggested throughout the thread. 

[Kaptain Asia]

3 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

The OP thread title was vague 

Turns out to be extension based on marriage. 

So your extension based on retirement recently at CW duplicate not required.

Pretty much what I suggested throughout the thread. 

Jeez.......take a day off pal, you're taking being pedantic to a different level