In his keynote address at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) Saturday evening, former President Donald Trump aired grievances with his familiar foes: President Biden, the Department of Justice, and the litany of legal fights he is embroiled in.

 

But Trump, now an official presidential candidate who is expected to see a crowded field of other challengers, also took subdued shots at his potential opponents, and argued that any GOP option that's not him represents an establishment "we're never going back to."

 

"This is the final battle," he said. 

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/trump-cpac-2023-03-04/

 

Did he say anything coherent?

Nobody like a sore loser.

53 minutes ago, Tug said:

Did he say anything coherent?

How many years ago did that happen?

19 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Nobody like a sore loser.

It seems there are about 70 million losers who like to be part of a loser cult. They call it MAGA. 

1 minute ago, OneMoreFarang said:

It seems there are about 70 million losers who like to be part of a loser cult. They call it MAGA. 

I believe the self selected new name is ‘Ultra MAGA’.

 

Identifiable by wearing two Chinese made red hats.

 

 

6 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

How many years ago did that happen?

He becomes very coherent when under oath, and repeats ‘Fifth Amendment’ with perfect annunciation.

 

Donald who???

Here's a shocker:

Trump claimed the 2020 election was stolen!

2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

It seems there are about 70 million losers who like to be part of a loser cult. They call it MAGA. 

Actually, it's called democracy and you don't have to agree with them. I'm sad that someone that usually posts good stuff resorts to such language to describe people you disagree with.

23 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Actually, it's called democracy and you don't have to agree with them. I'm sad that someone that usually posts good stuff resorts to such language to describe people you disagree with.

The question is not if I disagree with people or politics. I.e. people can have different opinions about social supports, wars, abortion, and many other issues, I accept that.

The problem with many losers and stupid people is, that they don't care about the truth and reality. I.e. if Trump would say something like: I lost the last election, and now I will work harder to win your trust so that I win next time. 

That would make sense. I still wouldn't like him, but I would accept that he fights for his believes.

But Trump still denies reality on so many levels. And his followers should know that he is lying all the time. Why do they support a serial liar? 

1 minute ago, OneMoreFarang said:

The question is not if I disagree with people or politics. I.e. people can have different opinions about social supports, wars, abortion, and many other issues, I accept that.

The problem with many losers and stupid people is, that they don't care about the truth and reality. I.e. if Trump would say something like: I lost the last election, and now I will work harder to win your trust so that I win next time. 

That would make sense. I still wouldn't like him, but I would accept that he fights for his believes.

But Trump still denies reality on so many levels. And his followers should know that he is lying all the time. Why do they support a serial liar? 

You called 70 million people losers- that's not nice and they have every right to like someone you don't. I'm sure you are better than that, from your posts on other threads but you seem to have a problem when it comes to Trump.

 

BTW, they may not like him, but hate Washington so much they support him over the professional politicians. I can understand why that is.

 

 

 

 

56 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Actually, it's called democracy and you don't have to agree with them. I'm sad that someone that usually posts good stuff resorts to such language to describe people you disagree with.

Not that anyone on the left of politics objects to being labelled "woke" or "communist" every time they open their mouth because the right wing have no coherent policy platform.

21 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

You called 70 million people losers- that's not nice and they have every right to like someone you don't. I'm sure you are better than that, from your posts on other threads but you seem to have a problem when it comes to Trump.

 

BTW, they may not like him, but hate Washington so much they support him over the professional politicians. I can understand why that is.

Define "professional politicians". Oh wait, don't bother, it's all politicians.

https://www.politico.com/video/2023/03/03/haley-wokeness-is-a-virus-more-dangerous-than-any-pandemic-850138

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

You called 70 million people losers- that's not nice and they have every right to like someone you don't. I'm sure you are better than that, from your posts on other threads but you seem to have a problem when it comes to Trump.

 

BTW, they may not like him, but hate Washington so much they support him over the professional politicians. I can understand why that is.

 

 

 

 

Thats right,uh huh! Growing up watching the Washington politicians and establishment bureaucrats 

make a mess of things domestically and world wide while living in Massachusetts/California and now here as a Independent  voter , Trump was and still is the only practical choice for 2024.

 

55 minutes ago, riclag said:

Thats right,uh huh! Growing up watching the Washington politicians and establishment bureaucrats 

make a mess of things domestically and world wide while living in Massachusetts/California and now here as a Independent  voter , Trump was and still is the only practical choice for 2024.

 

Trump is the GOP establishment.

He is also the one that made a mess of things domestically and worldwide while president.

48 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Trump is the GOP establishment.

He is also the one that made a mess of things domestically and worldwide while president.

Your opinion!

 

Mine!
He / America First wants to change that according to this Cnn story but I wouldn’t phrase it like Cnn does! 

“Donald Trump’s main goal? Kill off the Republican establishment”.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/20/politics/donald-trump-gop-establishment-mitch-mcconnell/index.html

1 minute ago, riclag said:

Your opinion!

 

Mine!
He / America First wants to change that according to this Cnn story but I wouldn’t phrase it like Cnn does! 

“Donald Trump’s main goal? Kill off the Republican establishment”.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/20/politics/donald-trump-gop-establishment-mitch-mcconnell/index.html

The white house will be renamed crazy house.

11 hours ago, Tug said:

Did he say anything coherent?

Why should he start now?

6 hours ago, riclag said:

Thats right,uh huh! Growing up watching the Washington politicians and establishment bureaucrats 

make a mess of things domestically and world wide while living in Massachusetts/California and now here as a Independent  voter , Trump was and still is the only practical choice for 2024.

 

I sat through his spiel nothing but wanting to destroy our government lies about the election he lost grifting trying to sell fake trump coins to a half empty venue vengeance just the usual attempts to destroy our democracy no wonder the Russians love him his crowds are smaller every day that’s a good thing Imo.furthermore keep in mind the folks living in ca and mass are paying higher taxes to support the poor failing red states 

Some of you may be shocked, but it turns out Trump's speech to CPAC was full of falsehoods

 

1)He claimed killings are at an unprecedented level in NYC. This is false. In 2020 and 2021 murders started falling again. In 2021 there were a total of 433 homicides in NY. In 1990 the total was 2245

 

2)He claimed the US left 85 billion dollars worth of equipment in Afghanistan. The total was actually about 7 billion.

 

3)He claimed "windmills" created the most expensive form of energy every developed. False. He also claimed that they kill birds which is ture but the numbers are negligible compared to what slaughter domestic cats , the fossil fuel industry and buildings are responsible for. Isn't Trump in real estate?

 

4) Trump said he shut down border crossings. Not true. And they began to climb back up again in 2020.

 

5)He claimed that no previous administration had gotten anything from China. Again false. Tariffs from Chinese imports on a yearly basis varied between 8 and 14 billion dollars per year.

 

6)He claimed that NATO members were delinquent in paying their bills. 

 

7)He claimed that the Obama administration only sent blankets to Ukraine. Actually, the rendered assistance worth about 600 million dollars.

 

8)He claimed that the wall between Mexico and the USA was "completed".

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/04/us/politics/fact-check-trump-cpac.html

 

 

 

 

The 'crowd' at CPAC 

 

 

On 3/5/2023 at 8:20 PM, stevenl said:

Trump is the GOP establishment.

He is also the one that made a mess of things domestically and worldwide while president.

I think he went in with the intent to make America great again, but the constant attacks on him and the recusal of that <deleted> sessions prevented much from being done.

Much of the little that he did achieve was of benefit to the US, but he wasn't able to do much.

On 3/5/2023 at 1:23 PM, onthedarkside said:

"This is the final battle," he said. 

I hope he gives up before the election, but I have slim hope of that.

Hopefully he won't get the financial backing that any POTUS campaign requires.

11 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I hope he gives up before the election, but I have slim hope of that.

Hopefully he won't get the financial backing that any POTUS campaign requires.

Trump never in his life been a gracious loser. Fear his crazy mob and not whether he gets financial backing. 

So Mr Trump is likely to be the next Republican Presidential Candidate?

 

Well, if nothing else, the cat fight over the Vice Presidential slot between Lauren Boebert and Marjorie Taylor-Greene should be magnificent!

1 hour ago, herfiehandbag said:

So Mr Trump is likely to be the next Republican Presidential Candidate?

 

Well, if nothing else, the cat fight over the Vice Presidential slot between Lauren Boebert and Marjorie Taylor-Greene should be magnificent!

I hope he isn't the candidate, but if he is I expect everything about it to be very interesting. I said that before he was elected and I was not disappointed in the ensuing 4 years.

Joe is every bit as bad as I expected and what's worse, he's boring.

14 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I hope he isn't the candidate, but if he is I expect everything about it to be very interesting. I said that before he was elected and I was not disappointed in the ensuing 4 years.

Joe is every bit as bad as I expected and what's worse, he's boring.

Yes, boring is bad' isn't it. Sanity is bad. Predictability is bad. Grown-up behavior is bad. Doing sensible things is bad. 

Bad Biden!

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I think he went in with the intent to make America great again, but the constant attacks on him and the recusal of that <deleted> sessions prevented much from being done.

Much of the little that he did achieve was of benefit to the US, but he wasn't able to do much.

No, it wasn't anyone else who prevented him from doing what he wanted, it was himself not wanting anything except being at the pillar.