Scott Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 Republican presidential hopefuls are vowing to wage a war on "woke," but a new USA TODAY/Ipsos Poll finds a majority of Americans are inclined to see the word as a positive attribute, not a negative one. Fifty-six percent of those surveyed say the term means "to be informed, educated on, and aware of social injustices." That includes not only three-fourths of Democrats but also more than a third of Republicans. Overall, 39% say instead that the word reflects what has become the GOP political definition, "to be overly politically correct and police others' words." https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-war-woke-most-americans-100008176.html
Popular Post Yellowtail Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted March 9, 2023 "to be informed, educated on, and aware of social injustices." ???? 2 3
Popular Post BritManToo Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted March 9, 2023 (edited) How I view 'woke' Like every other totalitarian movement, what some call liberalism and others more recently often describe as Cultural Marxism has developed an ideology which its adherents use to justify the imposition of tyranny on the society they seek to overtake. The ideology of America’s contemporary totalitarian left can be called wokeism. The four intellectual pillars of wokeism are: 1. Anti-white racism disguised under the euphemism social justice. 2. Rejection of traditional morality, which is primarily carried out by the promotion of sexually deviant lifestyles such as homosexuality and transgender. In a truly surreal inversion of reality, they paint traditional morality as immoral by charging it with being homophobic, transphobic, and similar terms. 3. Environmentalism based on the notion that it is desirable and possible to arrest climate change. 4. Intense hostility toward Christian religion, which they negatively paint as patriarchal, intolerant, and oppressive. 4. is a bit of an odd one, 'cos the wokes love Islam even though it's more extreme and way more homophobic and anti-women's rights than Christianity. Edited March 9, 2023 by BritManToo 2 1 3 2 10 10
Popular Post formanth Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted March 9, 2023 It just means more distractions. "Look over here! Not there, now go back to saleep". Sow fear, animosity and division. Distort and subvert original representations, intentions and meanings. Has worked for millennia. 4 2 1
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted March 9, 2023 Republicans policies and actions are toxically unpopular and yet they continue to pushed past the boundaries of acceptability by the general public and even some conservatives. It's like a death wish. 5 1 3 1
Popular Post Yellowtail Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted March 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Eric Loh said: Republicans policies and actions are toxically unpopular and yet they continue to pushed past the boundaries of acceptability by the general public and even some conservatives. It's like a death wish. Examples ? 3 1 1
Popular Post KhunLA Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted March 9, 2023 To the title 'positive' ... ... they didn't poll anyone I know .. ???? 2 4
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted March 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: Examples ? Climate change, tax cuts, abortion, election denialism, Ukraine war, vaccine, mask mandate etc. GOP is an unpopular party that will never win if the election is based on popular votes. Their own hope to to win by the the medieval relic electoral college which is also unpopular among general population. 7 1 1 5 5
Popular Post Yellowtail Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted March 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: Climate change, tax cuts, abortion, election denialism, Ukraine war, vaccine, mask mandate etc. GOP is an unpopular party that will never win if the election is based on popular votes. Their own hope to to win by the the medieval relic electoral college which is also unpopular among general population. That's what I thought, carry on 2 3 2 2
Popular Post Hanaguma Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted March 9, 2023 36 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: Climate change, tax cuts, abortion, election denialism, Ukraine war, vaccine, mask mandate etc. GOP is an unpopular party that will never win if the election is based on popular votes. Their own hope to to win by the the medieval relic electoral college which is also unpopular among general population. Strange then, that they WON the popular vote in the 2022 mid terms. 1 2 1 2 1
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted March 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Scott said: Ipsos Poll finds a majority of Americans are inclined to see the word as a positive attribute, not a negative one. Great news for 2024 let MAGA keep up the good work of using their war against woke, it will lose them the election, again................ 3 1 1 1 2 1
Popular Post bamnutsak Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted March 9, 2023 This American's view? Woke = Progress. And you can't stop progress, no matter how perjorative a word you use to frame it. 2 3 1 3
Popular Post ozimoron Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted March 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Yellowtail said: "to be informed, educated on, and aware of social injustices." ???? How can "educated and aware" not be considered as a positive? Oh, wait.... 3 1 3
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted March 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: Strange then, that they WON the popular vote in the 2022 mid terms. Not a general election but still GOP underperformed in 2022 House election especially in seats that have candidates with extreme views on abortion and the 2020 election. 2 1
ozimoron Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 1 hour ago, KhunLA said: To the title 'positive' ... ... they didn't poll anyone I know .. ???? The probability would be like winning the lottery 9 times in a row. That doesn't mean nobody else won it. 1
mr336 Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 3 hours ago, KhunLA said: To the title 'positive' ... ... they didn't poll anyone I know .. ???? Only Disney employees. 2
Popular Post LatPhrao Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted March 9, 2023 3 hours ago, BritManToo said: How I view 'woke' Like every other totalitarian movement, what some call liberalism and others more recently often describe as Cultural Marxism has developed an ideology which its adherents use to justify the imposition of tyranny on the society they seek to overtake. The ideology of America’s contemporary totalitarian left can be called wokeism. The four intellectual pillars of wokeism are: 1. Anti-white racism disguised under the euphemism social justice. 2. Rejection of traditional morality, which is primarily carried out by the promotion of sexually deviant lifestyles such as homosexuality and transgender. In a truly surreal inversion of reality, they paint traditional morality as immoral by charging it with being homophobic, transphobic, and similar terms. 3. Environmentalism based on the notion that it is desirable and possible to arrest climate change. 4. Intense hostility toward Christian religion, which they negatively paint as patriarchal, intolerant, and oppressive. 4. is a bit of an odd one, 'cos the wokes love Islam even though it's more extreme and way more homophobic and anti-women's rights than Christianity. 555 File under: 'Fry in own words' .... until crisp ... "I try to never disagree with fools, but I will ignore them once identified." 3
Popular Post Gandtee Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted March 9, 2023 4 hours ago, BritManToo said: How I view 'woke' Like every other totalitarian movement, what some call liberalism and others more recently often describe as Cultural Marxism has developed an ideology which its adherents use to justify the imposition of tyranny on the society they seek to overtake. The ideology of America’s contemporary totalitarian left can be called wokeism. The four intellectual pillars of wokeism are: 1. Anti-white racism disguised under the euphemism social justice. 2. Rejection of traditional morality, which is primarily carried out by the promotion of sexually deviant lifestyles such as homosexuality and transgender. In a truly surreal inversion of reality, they paint traditional morality as immoral by charging it with being homophobic, transphobic, and similar terms. 3. Environmentalism based on the notion that it is desirable and possible to arrest climate change. 4. Intense hostility toward Christian religion, which they negatively paint as patriarchal, intolerant, and oppressive. 4. is a bit of an odd one, 'cos the wokes love Islam even though it's more extreme and way more homophobic and anti-women's rights than Christianity. 'I try to never disagree with fools, but I will ignore them once identified.' I've taken your advice. 4 1
Popular Post vandeventer Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted March 9, 2023 3 hours ago, bamnutsak said: This American's view? Woke = Progress. And you can't stop progress, no matter how perjorative a word you use to frame it. Most Americans view woke= stupid crt= stupid progressive= backward gun control = disarming good Americans 1 3 2 1 1
Popular Post ozimoron Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted March 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, vandeventer said: Most Americans view woke= stupid crt= stupid progressive= backward gun control = disarming good Americans Proof that republican illiteracy is a thing. Home schooling has a lot to answer for. 2 1 1 2
Popular Post Bluetongue Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted March 9, 2023 25 minutes ago, LatPhrao said: 555 File under: 'Fry in own words' .... until crisp ... "I try to never disagree with fools, but I will ignore them once identified." I like it when someone lays out an argument sensibly, whether I disagree or not, and that is then followed by people who clearly disagree but cannot lay out logically and sensibly why. Their response is to play the insult card, and thus lose the debate to any reader that is undecided. But their sense of having won the debate still exists, that is woke. Of course nothing will stop "woke", demographics and the great dumbing will see to that. 2 4 1 1
ozimoron Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 Just now, Bluetongue said: I like it when someone lays out an argument sensibly, whether I disagree or not, and that is then followed by people who clearly disagree but cannot lay out logically and sensibly why. Their response is to play the insult card, and thus lose the debate to any reader that is undecided. But their sense of having won the debate still exists, that is woke. Of course nothing will stop "woke", demographics and the great dumbing will see to that. His problem is that the member in question rarely (I'm being generous) provides links to back up his arguments. 2 1
Popular Post candide Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted March 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, vandeventer said: Most Americans view woke= stupid crt= stupid progressive= backward gun control = disarming good Americans Poll with one respondent? 3 1 1
Popular Post rudi49jr Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted March 9, 2023 (edited) 57 minutes ago, vandeventer said: Most Americans view woke= stupid crt= stupid progressive= backward gun control = disarming good Americans That’s the problem with right-wingers/conservatives/evangelicals: they think their own view represents that of the vast majority. But it (almost)never does….. Edited March 9, 2023 by rudi49jr 5 1 1 2
Popular Post Yellowtail Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted March 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, rudi49jr said: That’s the problem with right-wingers/conservatives/evangelicals: they think their own view represents that of the vast majority. But it (almost)never does….. That’s the problem with left-wingers/leftists/hedonists : they think their own view represents that of the vast majority. But it (almost)never does….. 1 2 2 1 1
Popular Post rudi49jr Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted March 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: That’s the problem with left-wingers/leftists/hedonists : they think their own view represents that of the vast majority. But it (almost)never does….. Turns out in this case 56% of Americans (which is a majority, and not just the loony left) disagree with you: “Fifty-six percent of those surveyed say the term means "to be informed, educated on, and aware of social injustices." That includes not only three-fourths of Democrats but also more than a third of Republicans.” 4 1 1
Popular Post Yellowtail Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted March 9, 2023 1 minute ago, rudi49jr said: Turns out in this case 56% of Americans (which is a majority, and not just the loony left) disagree with you: “Fifty-six percent of those surveyed say the term means "to be informed, educated on, and aware of social injustices." That includes not only three-fourths of Democrats but also more than a third of Republicans.” Do you have a like to the survey? 1 1 1
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted March 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, rudi49jr said: That’s the problem with right-wingers/conservatives/evangelicals: they think their own view represents that of the vast majority. But it (almost)never does….. Don't think they care as they are performing to their captive minority audience for the purpose of grifting and partisan loyalty that help them win in the electoral college. GOP is simply not interested in developing popular agenda. They can survive just by catering to their base. Trump has shown that unpopular candidate with little interest in public policy can still win. America politics is an embarrassment. 3 1 1
Popular Post riclag Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted March 9, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, BritManToo said: How I view 'woke' Like every other totalitarian movement, what some call liberalism and others more recently often describe as Cultural Marxism has developed an ideology which its adherents use to justify the imposition of tyranny on the society they seek to overtake. The ideology of America’s contemporary totalitarian left can be called wokeism. The four intellectual pillars of wokeism are: 1. Anti-white racism disguised under the euphemism social justice. 2. Rejection of traditional morality, which is primarily carried out by the promotion of sexually deviant lifestyles such as homosexuality and transgender. In a truly surreal inversion of reality, they paint traditional morality as immoral by charging it with being homophobic, transphobic, and similar terms. 3. Environmentalism based on the notion that it is desirable and possible to arrest climate change. 4. Intense hostility toward Christian religion, which they negatively paint as patriarchal, intolerant, and oppressive. 4. is a bit of an odd one, 'cos the wokes love Islam even though it's more extreme and way more homophobic and anti-women's rights than Christianity. I like your opinion so much . I had to look up the meaning .I found one site , urban dictionary that describes it basically started out as a social justice euphemism and then it was recklessly taken over to assert they have a moral high ground and their opinion is correct while rejecting any criticism ! https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Woke Edited March 9, 2023 by riclag 2 2
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