Gary Lineker told to step back from presenting Match of the Day

[brewsterbudgen]

  On 3/11/2023 at 10:43 AM, Mac Mickmanus said:

Let me see "All Jews must be exterminated and wiped off the face of the Earth" and "We must stop people risking their lifes by sailing across the sea in small boats "

   Not similar at all 

 

    

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I suggest you do some research.

[puchooay]

  On 3/11/2023 at 12:49 PM, RuamRudy said:

Because the Nasty party has always been focused on alleviating the suffering of the masses...

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SNP?

[RuamRudy]

  On 3/11/2023 at 12:57 PM, Mac Mickmanus said:

This is a thread about Gary Lineker and illegal immigrants , its not a thread about Conservatives and Labour and which one is the best 

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You should direct that comment to the person to whom I was replying.

[Mac Mickmanus]

  On 3/11/2023 at 1:13 PM, brewsterbudgen said:

I suggest you do some research.

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I don't need to do any research .

I am correct about the Nazis policies towards Jews and I am aware of the UK Govs policies towards immigrants and thus no need for me to research anything 

[brewsterbudgen]

  On 3/11/2023 at 1:30 PM, Mac Mickmanus said:

I don't need to do any research .

I am correct about the Nazis policies towards Jews and I am aware of the UK Govs policies towards immigrants and thus no need for me to research anything 

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I meant research about what Lineker tweeted.  He referred to the language used in Germany in the 30s - not specifically any government. 

[Mac Mickmanus]

  On 3/11/2023 at 1:34 PM, brewsterbudgen said:

I meant research about what Lineker tweeted.  He referred to the language used in Germany in the 30s - not specifically any government. 

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Lineker's tweet was a clear reference to Nazi Germany , comparing the language the Nazis used towards the Jews and others and the UK Govs language about illegal immigrants 

[metisdead]

A troll post has been reported and removed.

[brewsterbudgen]

  On 3/11/2023 at 1:44 PM, Mac Mickmanus said:

Lineker's tweet was a clear reference to Nazi Germany , comparing the language the Nazis used towards the Jews and others and the UK Govs language about illegal immigrants 

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Well, that's your interpretation.  I think he made a very apt point about the language of intolerance and scapegoating minorities. Are you saying there are no similarities?

[Chomper Higgot]

  On 3/11/2023 at 1:44 PM, Mac Mickmanus said:

Lineker's tweet was a clear reference to Nazi Germany , comparing the language the Nazis used towards the Jews and others and the UK Govs language about illegal immigrants 

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And so?

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

BBC Scores a home goal:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/media/live/2023/mar/11/bbc-gary-lineker-match-of-the-day-alex-scott-latest-reaction-news

[Chomper Higgot]

  On 3/11/2023 at 1:30 PM, Mac Mickmanus said:

I don't need to do any research .

I am correct about the Nazis policies towards Jews and I am aware of the UK Govs policies towards immigrants and thus no need for me to research anything 

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You might want to research how it was that singling out a minority group escalated into crimes against humanity and how the question came to be asked ‘Why didn’t anyone speak up against this before it was too late?’. 
 

 

[kickstart]

  On 3/11/2023 at 12:08 AM, kwilco said:

The BBC has been under the government's thumb since 2015. It is no longar an independent organisation but now little more than a government mouth piece.

Just look at the scandal of the loan to Boris Johnson

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That loan is also making big news the guy, Richard Sharp is only Chairman of the BBC, and he did declare that he facilitated the loan during the appointment prosses, and he has given money to the Tory party in the past, that is being looked in to, but do not hold your breath on any outcome.

Note. A lot of BBC Radio 5 programs are off the air this afternoon, presenters coming out in sympathy. 

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

  On 3/11/2023 at 2:16 PM, brewsterbudgen said:

Well, that's your interpretation.  I think he made a very apt point about the language of intolerance and scapegoating minorities. Are you saying there are no similarities?

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Keep it in perspective  , the U.K are talking measures to stop illegal immigration and I don't recall Hitler ever making a speech about stopping illegal immigration , his speeches were more about wiping out certain German citizens and Germany taking over the World etc.

   I cannot see any similarities between Rishi Sunak speeches  and Adolf Hitlers speeches   myself

[Mac Mickmanus]

  On 3/11/2023 at 2:29 PM, kickstart said:

 

Note. A lot of BBC Radio 5 programs are off the air this afternoon, presenters coming out in sympathy. 

 

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Radio 5 currently live on air, commentating from the Wales v Italy rugby game this afternoon 

 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/live:bbc_radio_five_live

 

[kickstart]

  On 3/11/2023 at 9:41 AM, James105 said:

In all fairness this would be an ideal opportunity for the BBC to pluck some fresh talent from YouTube.   There are some excellent football channels out there that create better content than what is served by MOTD.  

 

It's about time the BBC realised that presenting highlights of football matches does not require the services of someone on £1.5 million per year and can be presented by fresher, better talent for a tenth of that cost.    A win for the BBC who save a bit of cash, a win for the MOTD audience who get better presenters, and a win for Lineker who can use his free time to enter politics and/or do his ranting on Twitter without consequence.   This would be a Win/Win/Win situation.   

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Talk on the radio today, with no presenters and pundits on MOTD ,what happens if audience figures go up, this might happen as a one off, what happens if it continues.

[kickstart]

  On 3/11/2023 at 2:36 PM, Mac Mickmanus said:

Radio 5 currently live on air, commentating from the Wales v Italy rugby game this afternoon 

 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/live:bbc_radio_five_live

 

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Ture, but the football related programs and a boxing program are off the air. 

[Chomper Higgot]

  On 3/11/2023 at 2:33 PM, Mac Mickmanus said:

Keep it in perspective  , the U.K are talking measures to stop illegal immigration and I don't recall Hitler ever making a speech about stopping illegal immigration , his speeches were more about wiping out certain German citizens and Germany taking over the World etc.

   I cannot see any similarities between Rishi Sunak speeches  and Adolf Hitlers speeches   myself

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We know you can’t see the similarities, we got that.

[kwilco]

  On 3/11/2023 at 2:29 PM, kickstart said:

That loan is also making big news the guy, Richard Sharp is only Chairman of the BBC, and he did declare that he facilitated the loan during the appointment prosses, and he has given money to the Tory party in the past, that is being looked in to, but do not hold your breath on any outcome.

Note. A lot of BBC Radio 5 programs are off the air this afternoon, presenters coming out in sympathy. 

 

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Yes I know

[kwilco]

  On 3/11/2023 at 2:33 PM, Mac Mickmanus said:

Keep it in perspective  , the U.K are talking measures to stop illegal immigration and I don't recall Hitler ever making a speech about stopping illegal immigration , his speeches were more about wiping out certain German citizens and Germany taking over the World etc.

   I cannot see any similarities between Rishi Sunak speeches  and Adolf Hitlers speeches   myself

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That's what they are relying on.....

 

BtW were you alive in the 1930s?

[kwilco]

You realise that they arent "illegal immigrants"?

However the UK government is trying to legislate they are.

Just as Hilter legislated against the Jews and others.

Concentration camps were LEGAL, it's governments that makes laws

[Mac Mickmanus]

  On 3/11/2023 at 2:42 PM, kickstart said:

Ture, but the football related programs and a boxing program are off the air. 

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Live Football is on Sky TV these days ., the BBC just have the highlights later in the evening and which boxing program are off air, because nothing comes up with a websearch

[Bkk Brian]

  On 3/11/2023 at 2:53 PM, Mac Mickmanus said:

Live Football is on Sky TV these days ., the BBC just have the highlights later in the evening and which boxing program are off air, because nothing comes up with a websearch

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https://www.bbc.com/news/live/entertainment-arts-64895316

 

Fighting Talk along with other cancelations

[Mac Mickmanus]

  On 3/11/2023 at 2:52 PM, kwilco said:

You realise that they arent "illegal immigrants"?

However the UK government is trying to legislate they are.

Just as Hilter legislated against the Jews and others.

Concentration camps were LEGAL, it's governments that makes laws

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Its the "illegal immigrants" from Albania who are the reason why the U.K has clamped down on asylum seekers .

  Tens of thousands of illegal  Albanian immigrants were posing as asylum seekers .

   Dont worry, the U.K will not be putting the people into concertation camps and killing them and I wasn't born in 1930

[Scott]

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[vinny41]

  On 3/11/2023 at 2:52 PM, kwilco said:

You realise that they arent "illegal immigrants"?

However the UK government is trying to legislate they are.

Just as Hilter legislated against the Jews and others.

Concentration camps were LEGAL, it's governments that makes laws

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Tony Blair stated in 2005 So we've legislated to make it an offence to enter the UK without a valid passport

So if you attempt to enter the UK without any paperwork you are illegal 

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/risks-of-illegal-migration-to-the-uk#:~:text=Penalties and jail sentences&text=It will be a criminal,country if you arrive illegally.

[proton]

  On 3/11/2023 at 2:52 PM, kwilco said:

You realise that they arent "illegal immigrants"?

However the UK government is trying to legislate they are.

Just as Hilter legislated against the Jews and others.

Concentration camps were LEGAL, it's governments that makes laws

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what are Albanians coming over in boats and claiming asylum when they are not even entitled to, if not illegal immigrant's? Never mind others pretending to be from countries they cannot even spell and lying about their ages. People left Germany to get away from the Nazi's, they were not putting Jews up in 5 star hotels were they. 

[josephbloggs]

This sums it up perfectly for me. The hypocrisy. The government are using this as a smokescreen, it is so obvious. It is also sad and pathetic, just as their policies are. The most awful government the UK has seen in my lifetime.

 

 

[kwilco]

Impartiality, bias and neutrality are not words for freedom of speech. They are words used by repressive governments to suppress criticism in the media

[kwilco]

  On 3/11/2023 at 4:48 PM, proton said:

what are Albanians coming over in boats and claiming asylum when they are not even entitled to, if not illegal immigrant's? Never mind others pretending to be from countries they cannot even spell and lying about their ages. People left Germany to get away from the Nazi's, they were not putting Jews up in 5 star hotels were they. 

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They aren't illegal though..You are rolling out the same demonising cliches that authoritarian governments love... you are expressing views exactly the same as those encouraged by the Nazis. The sad thing is that neither they then nor yourself now seem to understand this. Perfect for dictatorial governments...you are the fodder on which they exist.

[Mac Mickmanus]

  On 3/11/2023 at 11:10 PM, kwilco said:

They aren't illegal though..You are rolling out the same demonising cliches that authoritarian governments love... you are expressing views exactly the same as those encouraged by the Nazis. The sad thing is that neither they then nor yourself now seem to understand this. Perfect for dictatorial governments...you are the fodder on which they exist.

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Do stop all this deflective Nazi comparisons .

You are just avoiding the subject .

Many of the people coming across in boats are attempting to enter the UK illegally without a visa or permission , these are typically Albanian people who want a better life in the U.K

  They are attempting to avoid UK immigration  and sneak into to the UK through the back door