Thailand welcomes Russian refugees

[webfact]

 

According to government spokesman Rachada Dhnadirek, the contents of the pact align with extradition agreements Thailand has with other nations, which will strengthen cooperation to combat crime.

 

Since the extradition agreement has no impact on Thailand’s territory, economy, society, or commerce and investment, she argued, Parliament does not need to approve it.

 

Since the invasion in February of last year, tens of thousands of Russians have traveled to Thailand in an effort to evade conscription and the economic effects of the war with Ukraine.

 

Full story: https://bangkokone.news/thailand-welcomes-russian-refugees/

 

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[ezzra]

I too would have preferred to lay on a far away sunny beach then being a cannon fodder on Putin's Ukrainian battlefields.

[Henk Langeweg]

Russia will take of their passports and then? get a Thai one. 5555

[bradiston]

Russian what?  Refugees? Are you kidding?

[Stefanix]

A good part might be relatives and friends of oligarchs and other powerful figures in Russia, to some degree supporting the regime or tolerating it. I could accept them only if they are truly dissidents. Otherwise I would not call them refugees.

[Millcx]

That’s nice welcoming all those Rich Russians refugees…Hope there is enough room for the 5 deck cruisers  and can help with PTSD 

[Emeraldisle]

How can these Russians be refugees?

They are either draft dodgers , criminals or Russian Mafia.

They do not meet the criteria for "refugees"

 

https://www.unhcr.org/en-ie/what-is-a-refugee.html

 

[CANSIAM]

Authorites are just figuring it now ? I believe the 1st Russian aircraft arrival in October had a 2 truck water cannon welcoming.........I'm sure if Immigration clamps down on corruption, most will have to leave at some point ????  

[Bday Prang]

Strangely written article,  almost like there is something missing 

[Venom]

Hopefully they reach a peace deal soon and put an end to this war. 

[JoseThailand]

I am one of the Russian war refugees. Will be happy to answer your questions and bust some myths.

[bradiston]

4 minutes ago, Emeraldisle said:

How can these Russians be refugees?

They are either draft dodgers , criminals or Russian Mafia.

They do not meet the criteria for "refugees"

 

https://www.unhcr.org/en-ie/what-is-a-refugee.html

 

Well no, I don't entirely agree that they are this, that or the other.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_emigration_following_the_invasion_of_Ukraine_(2022–present)

 

Plus, same every year. Refugees from winter, maybe, like a million other tourists. They'll return to their homeland, eventually.  But calling them refugees from the war in Ukraine is deeply offensive surely to the 6 million or so Ukrainian people forced from their homes, to flee their country in the depths of winter, on account of the brutal Russian invasion of their country.

 

But, economic migrants, political refugees, anyone expressing anti war sentiments or opinions, and a million others, yes. they might be termed refugees, from their own government's persecution and disastrous policies, if nothing else. Unfortunately, hiding inside these groups will be the groups you mention. So I think it's really a mixture of people. Can't call them all bad! But Bali might be a lesson for eg Phuket.

 

BTW, what pact, and what extradition treaty does the OP article mention? We seem to have come in on a previous article.

 

[1duckyboy]

9 minutes ago, JoseThailand said:

I am one of the Russian war refugees. Will be happy to answer your questions and bust some myths.

Who is invading your country?

[hotchilli]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

According to government spokesman Rachada Dhnadirek, the contents of the pact align with extradition agreements Thailand has with other nations, which will strengthen cooperation to combat crime.

All the young Russians that have escaped the front-line have to make money to fund their stay in Thailand... just how do you think they're going to do that?

No marriage visa, no retirement visa, no work permit and limited funds?

Russians will do what Russians do, turn to crime to make money.

 

[bradiston]

17 minutes ago, JoseThailand said:

I am one of the Russian war refugees. Will be happy to answer your questions and bust some myths.

My question would be, how do Russian people really view the conflict?

[bradiston]

9 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

All the young Russians that have escaped the front-line have to make money to fund their stay in Thailand... just how do you think they're going to do that?

No marriage visa, no retirement visa, no work permit and limited funds?

Russians will do what Russians do, turn to crime to make money.

 

You could say that about a whole host of immigrants. But many have technical skills, programming skills, etc. There has been a huge uptake in ed visas I believe. Also, a lot are bringing wealth with them, coin, or whatever. It's not just here in Thailand, which didn't even rate a mention as a destination. It's a global phenomenon if you read the link I posted.

[JoseThailand]

10 minutes ago, bradiston said:

My question would be, how do Russian people really view the conflict?

The Russian society is split over this. A lot of people, especially the younger generation, oppose the war, some even go to jail for openly expressing their views. On the other hand, a lot of people support the war and believe the propaganda.

[jacko45k]

41 minutes ago, Venom said:

Hopefully they reach a peace deal soon and put an end to this war. 

Not looking good is it......reality is not one bullet has been fired on Russian soil, so all they are avoiding is conscription. Not the usual reason to try and claim asylum. 

[CANSIAM]

3 minutes ago, bradiston said:

You could say that about a whole host of immigrants. But many have technical skills, programming skills, etc. There has been a huge uptake in ed visas I believe. Also, a lot are bringing wealth with them, coin, or whatever. It's not just here in Thailand, which didn't even rate a mention as a destination. It's a global phenomenon if you read the link I posted.

A huge uptake in Ed. Visas being purchased.............. 

[jacko45k]

Just now, CANSIAM said:

A huge uptake in Ed. Visas being purchased.............. 

Exactly, that is what Big Jok is investigating. Chinese even opened schools who could then support ED applicants....

[CANSIAM]

3 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Exactly, that is what Big Jok is investigating. Chinese even opened schools who could then support ED applicants....

Well if Big Joke is determined, many will be leaving or on overstay. 

[JoseThailand]

1 minute ago, CANSIAM said:

Well if Big Joke is determined, many will be leaving or on overstay. 

Or have to go to school haha

[goatfarmer]

1 hour ago, Emeraldisle said:

How can these Russians be refugees?

They are either draft dodgers , criminals or Russian Mafia.

They do not meet the criteria for "refugees"

 

https://www.unhcr.org/en-ie/what-is-a-refugee.html

 

"The 1951 Refugee Convention is a key legal document and defines a refugee as:

“someone who is unable or unwilling to return to their country of origin owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group, or political opinion.”"

 

Draft dodging would seem to imply opposing the war. Is that not 'membership of a particular social group' with 'a political opinion'?

[CANSIAM]

42 minutes ago, JoseThailand said:

I am one of the Russian war refugees. Will be happy to answer your questions and bust some myths.

What date is your permission to stay stamp and your plan beyond that date ?

[Cricky]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

Thailand welcomes Russian refugees

Will they be given refugee privileges?

Thai nationality, PR etc.

[pchappo]

scraping ... the .... barrel ...

[sammieuk1]

I personally can't wait to find out what their refugee status will be when the money runs out, I suspect they will find out their hosts aren't so welcoming and print vinyl boards of them and point sticks at it ???? 

[wombat]

1 hour ago, Bday Prang said:

Strangely written article,  almost like there is something missing 

Reality perhaps?

[jacko45k]

2 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said:

I personally can't wait to find out what their refugee status will be when the money runs out, I suspect they will find out their hosts aren't so welcoming and print vinyl boards of them and point sticks at it ???? 

Already saw some reporting that Thailand is reconsidering the Visa / Visa waiver arrangements they have with Russia (and Ukraine) as the numbers arriving are very high already. 

[Bday Prang]

10 minutes ago, Cricky said:

Will they be given refugee privileges?

Thai nationality, PR etc.

That would upset a few on here, might be a need for an "outraged" emoji