Thailand welcomes Russian refugees

[ThailandRyan]

1 hour ago, stoner said:

blackrock will make sure that doesn't happen. 

Your sure trying to insinuate that Blackrock is fighting the war with Ukraine. They are not. They will be helping to rebuild the destroyed country.

 

https://nypost.com/2022/12/28/zelensky-blackrock-ceo-larry-fink-tout-deal-to-help-rebuild-ukraine/

[realfunster]

4 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

Strangely written article,  almost like there is something missing 

You are being polite. It reads as if prepared by a small child or google translate. From what I can tell, it is actually from an English language news page. 

 

Kindly take note "AseanNOW" and " Bangkok One News ". I think members can reasonably expect better content than this nonsensical drivel. 

 

On your own head be it for your brand reputation to publish or share such a poorly written "article"...

[ThailandRyan]

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

Phuket, Pattaya, Europe. What's your point on a thraed about Thailand where this buying spree is pushing prices of condos and holiday villas, particularly in Phuket, sky high? 

His post is pure deflection 

[NoshowJones]

5 hours ago, Venom said:

Hopefully they reach a peace deal soon and put an end to this war. 

Yes, then maybe all these price increases will be back to normal again.  

[Lee65]

5 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

Strangely written article,  almost like there is something missing 

Doesn't matter.  Just post a few incoherent words, call it "news", and people here will feverishly comment on it ... 

[bradiston]

12 minutes ago, ChaiyaTH said:

To be honest, they lost almost anywhere they went. Even the end of WW2 had more to do with the Russians helping out right before that than them.

Russians helping out? They were defending the motherland. Only reason they joined. For the first 2 years Hitler's Germany and Stalin's Russia were allies.

[Zapitapi]

12 minutes ago, BananaStrong said:

Loss how?  financially?  NO.   Deaths?  Millions versus 58,000.  NO NO

 

Yes, we left.... OK, you "win".  Can you check to see how America did AFTER this "loss" and how strong they are now???????????????

 

Go to your village master and tell them you will gather some sticks to charge NYC.  lol

usa did well.. on the back of the supressed countries.. and holding the reserve currency.. and a few other points.. us was a great country .. but it lost its way

[Lopchan]

7 minutes ago, bradiston said:

Russians helping out? They were defending the motherland. Only reason they joined. For the first 2 years Hitler's Germany and Stalin's Russia were allies.

As opposed to the U.S who sat on their hands and profiteered from the Axis until 1942

[alex8912]

3 hours ago, Iron Tongue said:

I sincerely doubt that any of these are in fear of being drafted to fight (and die) in Ukraine.  Residents of Moscow & St. Petersburg somehow aren't getting draft notifications.  Only the minority populations in far-away republics & oblasts are getting selected.

Besides, friends, relatives of Oligarchs, and powerful figures wouldn't have to sneak to Thailand and hang-out on public beaches.

"Connected" Russians live in London, party in Berlin and  access private beaches in Monaco.

How is it hanging out on the private beaches in Monaco HALF the year from late October to late April??? They are in Phuket and other hot spots buddy. Get real. 

[alex8912]

41 minutes ago, BananaStrong said:

How do you know all these names?   I've never heard of such ridiculous stuff.

 

Why are you following these trends so closely???????????????? lol

Obviously a Tic Tok FANATIC!! 

[robertson468]

I believe that the first Nationaliity that should be offered Refugee Status are the Ukranians.  They did not initiate the War and are fighting hard for their Sovereinty against the Russian Invaders.  Thailand has sadly go it wrong again!

[Rimmer]

Misleading unatributed troll posts and replies removed

[bradiston]

15 minutes ago, Zapitapi said:

i  will answer point by point:

 

i am westerner and disagree that our news arent censored.. we are driven into a narrative imho

 

agreed its a war crime to do so... but russia has not gon after civilians.. but after infrastructure used for war purposes by ukraine..so in my opinion energy and transportation grid is fair game

 

the point that the ukraine president is jewish makes no sense to refute anything.. its like saying "this is not a sand beach because there is 1 stone in it" 

unfortunately u might know that ukraine is the only country in the whole wide world that has an official yearly nazi parade with 100k+ attendance 

azov and others are also officially integrated into the military not some fringe group..unfortunate but thats how it is

 

de militarise.. ok i get ur point but would answer that then we should also say the same about us westernes.. demilitarised irak, lybia, yugo, syria.....etc

but i get this is a circular argument depending on viewpoint and understanding of facts

 

it has every right.. at the fall of the USSR the powers at be agreed on: USSR agrees to the reunification of east and west germany and the west (NATO) in return "does not move an inch eastwards"..that promise was broken step by step... one can argue that states have the right to self determination and i agree but then they also need to face the consequences

 

who removed children.. dont know anything about that but will look into it

 

my view is that and again i say that without emotions: russia will not just win but will come out way stronger..i also stay away from putin bashing as if one knows how the russian gov. works one would not mention putin all the time.. the view that putin is king and reigns supreme is absolutely wrong and has no bearing in reality

 

i have missed ur comments on ukraines war crimes and the shelling of donbas, lugansk and the minsk agreements

 

still i have enjoyed ur factual argumentation instead of ad hominem

 

If, by westerner, you mean European, I really find it hard to understand any European supporting the Russian invasion of Ukraine. On what grounds? It was patently unnecessary. Putin's pathetic excuse that he had no alternative ("they made me do it") is unworthy of a world leader, to say the least. And the result? Do you see any damage to Russian territory? Nothing! NOTHING! How dare people say Ukraine started this war, or deserved it in any way? Have we lost all morality? Twisted, twisted, twisted.

 

[bradiston]

38 minutes ago, Lopchan said:

As opposed to the U.S who sat on their hands and profiteered from the Axis until 1942

Well, they didn't invade Poland like Russia and Germany did. Sure, they were reluctant to commit to a war 3,000 miles away, but without them eventually joining the Allies, we would never have defeated the Axis powers. They were, and have been ever since, our allies. 

 

People of a certain age who never witnessed Soviet Russia have no idea what it represented. If you'd prefer a Russian government, go there. I don't see a queue to get into the place. Nobody's crossing borders illegally to get in. But millions are queuing to get out.

 

And now we have the rest of the original article. A deal with Thailand to round up supposed "traitors" and deport them back to Russia. There you have it. Naturally this would be illegal from most other countries as they will face appalling state persecution if returned.

[Chongalulu]

6 hours ago, JoseThailand said:

I am one of the Russian war refugees. Will be happy to answer your questions and bust some myths.

OK. "What have the Russians ever done for us..?" ???? 

[Chongalulu]

4 hours ago, Gandtee said:

They are fleeing the scene.

Just add "brake failure " and they’d fit right in ! 

[Chongalulu]

4 hours ago, JoseThailand said:

Surprise: They work online. A lot of them are actually working for their regular Russian employers. During the pandemic online work became the norm.

That’s me. I’m a Russian front line soldier and very happy/relieved to be working on line from Soi Bangla!  ???? 

[Lee65]

Hmmm ... lot of conjecture here ...

 

 

 

Edited March 16, 2023 by Lee65

[gearbox]

3 hours ago, Hakuna Matata said:

Will there be another crackdown in Phuket and Pattaya on ILLEGAL visa extensions (ED visas and other NON-O visa extensions including those based on Retirement, Volunteer, etc.)? I wish there were, and this corruption scheme eradicated in Thailand.

If there was a such crackdown there would be some collateral damage for the ANF members, esp the savvy "investors" which get "high returns" on 800k baht.

[gearbox]

52 minutes ago, robertson468 said:

I believe that the first Nationaliity that should be offered Refugee Status are the Ukranians.  They did not initiate the War and are fighting hard for their Sovereinty against the Russian Invaders.  Thailand has sadly go it wrong again!

Thailand is not a good country for refugees, there is no welfare system to be abused. I think the Myanmar refugees close to their border are having pretty hard times here. Many of the world refugees want to end up in a country like Germany.

[Dexxter]

7 hours ago, Emeraldisle said:

They are either draft dodgers , criminals or Russian Mafia.

If they are draft dodgers then I prefer them to be in Thailand where they do less harm, then in Ukraine killing civilians. But they should really be back in russia attempting to get rid of their criminal government.

[gearbox]

2 hours ago, maddox41 said:

Well we all know where they are going too ☀ Phuket a  shame really  great place why dont they go to Pattaya way better  for them just like home in many ways. 

  How are they going to support themselves wouldnt the Russian government freeze their  accounts for doing  a runner?? 

So if they have no or little income do they do what Ruskies do life of crime there's enough already in Thailand. 

Issue is the Thai government dont care as their as bad  they probably welcome it especially immigration more momey for them. 

Dont get me wrong  having to fight  a war is wrong but dont go to another country and <deleted>.. It for the  rest of us. 

 

Prior to covid the Russians were the largest permanently living nationality in Samui. Many seem to work online or have a businesses here. There are many more now, some seem to be tourists, but quite a few are settling for longer time, I've seen quite a few red plated cars recently. Some seem to be YouTubers trying to make money with movies with not much regard to other people's privacy, the next time a Russian is flying a drone in my face I'm going to call the police.

[Smokey and the Bandit]

3 hours ago, Hakuna Matata said:

Will there be another crackdown in Phuket and Pattaya on ILLEGAL visa extensions (ED visas and other NON-O visa extensions including those based on Retirement, Volunteer, etc.)? I wish there were, and this corruption scheme eradicated in Thailand.

I think Big Joke is too busy with the Chinese Triad gangs and Gray businesses?????

[BananaStrong]

1 hour ago, Zapitapi said:

us was a great country .. but it lost its way

Compared to what country????????????????????  Give me the list of the five best countries on Earth.   America owns every English speaking country, but controls almost every other country on Earth.   So you will either say Communist China (live there?) or some ridiculous country like Sweden.

 

lost its way???????????????????   every expat in Thailand has "lost the plot" so bad they shower in Singha beer.  

[crazykopite]

They are not refugees most of them have plenty of money the true reason is that they are all, cowards running away from there motherland because they don’t want to be called up into the military if they think they are safe they are fooling themselves when they return Putins henchmen will be there waiting for them life won’t be worth living meanwhile the Thai government will make millions in visa charges v and that’s the only reason for not shipping them back home . What I am seeing on my island is Russians renting properties and then subletting them for ridiculous prices . They are working discreetly with no work permits one guy was caught last week on a 188 day overstay and I wouldn’t be surprised if there are 100s more on overstay with little being done about it  ☹️

[rabiedabruce]

9 hours ago, ezzra said:

I too would have preferred to lay on a far away sunny beach then being a cannon fodder on Putin's Ukrainian battlefields.

It's the Ukrainians who are cannon fodder in this US proxy war and yes, they are here too, having a dust up in Patong. You overly fond of corporate media?

[mikeymike100]

5 hours ago, malibukid said:

some are probably turning to that age old profession.

Yes, but there isn't any prostitution in Thailand? well that's what the police say?????

[rabiedabruce]

5 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Already saw some reporting that Thailand is reconsidering the Visa / Visa waiver arrangements they have with Russia (and Ukraine) as the numbers arriving are very high already. 

In the meantime Indonesia has banned any extension to their visas. Can't think why ..

[crazykopite]

6 hours ago, 1duckyboy said:

Who is invading your country?

Yes you are correct in asking that question the answer is “ NO ONE “ so how can Jose claim to be a Refugee these people are running away from being drafted into the Russian Military I wouldn’t want to be any of them once they return to the Motherland as Putins henchmen will be waiting for them mind you I have no objections to the beautiful Russian ladies staying here just send the male draft dodgers back home 

[rabiedabruce]

5 hours ago, CANSIAM said:

Need to start somewhere-sometime to break free of their unfortunate population propaganda poisoning......... 

You mean like the carpet bombing of global corporate media these last three years?