19 hours ago, vandeventer said:

When the truth comes out who will look like a fool? But you Dems. only know your truth.

Dems?, really? Do you not understand that many posters could also be republicans or Independents (Like myself) and they could care less for a lying, Cheating, philandering, whiny, spoiled child like Trump.

 

Yes even Republicans do not want Trump elected again

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/madelinehalpert/2022/07/12/nearly-half-of-republicans-dont-want-trump-as-president-in-2024-poll-suggests/.

 

Nearly two-thirds of Republican voters under 35 as well as adults with at least a college degree said they would not vote for Trump in a presidential primary, according to the poll, which was conducted from July 5 to 7.

 

Roughly 16% of GOP voters said they would support Democratic President Joe Biden, a third party candidate or would abstain from voting altogether if Trump were the Republican nominee, in what would be a jump from 2020, when 9% of Republicans voted for a candidate besides Trump, according to AP VoteCast.

 

https://vozwire.com/most-republicans-actually-despise-donald-trump-the-reasons-why-will-make-him-furious/

 

How many people hate Donald Trump? The latest polls indicate that at least 46% of Americans have an unfavorable view of the man. This number rises to 55% among people who are registered as Republican or lean towards the Republican party.

 

Many Republicans therefore dislike Donald Trump and have even come out to say it in public or on social media. In fact, there are so many reasons why Republicans hate Donald Trump that we had to make a whole list just for him!

9 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

When the truth comes out who will look like a fool? But you Dems. only know your truth.

The truth is already out, but it is not the truth that you want to hear.

 

If you think it is not correct, then prove your version of the truth.

5 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Dems?, really? Do you not understand that many posters could also be republicans or Independents (Like myself) and they could care less for a lying, Cheating, philandering, whiny, spoiled child like Trump.

 

Yes even Republicans do not want Trump elected again

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/madelinehalpert/2022/07/12/nearly-half-of-republicans-dont-want-trump-as-president-in-2024-poll-suggests/.

 

Nearly two-thirds of Republican voters under 35 as well as adults with at least a college degree said they would not vote for Trump in a presidential primary, according to the poll, which was conducted from July 5 to 7.

 

Roughly 16% of GOP voters said they would support Democratic President Joe Biden, a third party candidate or would abstain from voting altogether if Trump were the Republican nominee, in what would be a jump from 2020, when 9% of Republicans voted for a candidate besides Trump, according to AP VoteCast.

But you are posting your version of the truth which is not what he wants to believe, so by his logic, you and millions of US citizens are wrong.

9 hours ago, vandeventer said:

When the truth comes out who will look like a fool? But you Dems. only know your truth.

The truth has come out many times, supported by overwhelming evidence:  Trump lost!

 

You look really foolish when you deny such an obvious truth.

2 hours ago, heybruce said:

The truth has come out many times, supported by overwhelming evidence:  Trump lost!

 

You look really foolish when you deny such an obvious truth.

You can't handle the truth! I hear that in a movie but it applies here. We will all find out tomorrow about truth, lets hope the justice system swings both ways.

21 hours ago, DaveE13 said:

You seen this lawyer?  He was last seen in the movie  good fellas.  He was on a news show and was  waffling and getting called out for his bs. He got so upset he tried to snatch the paper the reporter was reading from.   Where the hell they found him. In fat Tony's restaurant?

Should fit the mould for his previous legal teams then...

12 hours ago, vandeventer said:

When the truth comes out who will look like a fool? But you Dems. only know your truth.

The truth is fairly obvious, but they keep feeding you ????‍♂️

36 minutes ago, Salerno said:

The truth is fairly obvious, but they keep feeding you ????‍♂️

The truth is not obvious when the focus is on the wrong people. Bragg is your huckleberry followed by Biden and his family of crime. But most here  can't or don't want to see that. It's going to be a sad day for America however it turns out.

16 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

The truth is not obvious when the focus is on the wrong people. Bragg is your huckleberry followed by Biden and his family of crime. But most here  can't or don't want to see that. It's going to be a sad day for America however it turns out.

The truth to dealt with later today is that surrounding Donald Trump’s behavior.

That’s how the Justice stream works, one case at a time on its own merits.

 

I realize the unfolding events

are difficult for you, try not to get distracted by other issues, real or imagined.

 

Pay attention to what the indictments actually are.

 

You have the opportunity of getting a very clear view. Good luck with what you learn from it.

1 hour ago, vandeventer said:

The truth is not obvious when the focus is on the wrong people. Bragg is your huckleberry followed by Biden and his family of crime. But most here  can't or don't want to see that. It's going to be a sad day for America however it turns out.

Like Trump, when Biden is no longer a sitting president then they can prosecute him. This is Trumps moment of truth to be arraigned and then tried for his crimes.  Quit deflecting to Biden the Topic is about Trump.

38 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Like Trump, when Biden is no longer a sitting president then they can prosecute him. This is Trumps moment of truth to be arraigned and then tried for his crimes.  Quit deflecting to Biden the Topic is about Trump.

It's not a moment of truth it's a moment of get Trump at any cost. I don't think Biden will in power much longer and yes the headlights will be on him, we will just have to wait.

16 hours ago, Tug said:

I beg to differ as much as I love seeing old Donnie being held to account in real time he will use this to grift spin and get the attention he obviously craves.In the interest of a fair trial it should be done under a gag order.Let the law follow its course.There are much more important issues happening now than this citizen’s trial.Get it and the others done let the law follow its course don’t let Donnie with the medias help make it a circus and grift……

 

 

No problem.   We can respectfully  disagree with each other

 

Like it or not, on the basis of being a former President, Donald Dump is a bit different than the average citizen however that  shouldn't afford him special legal status.

 

Dump's arrogance will definitely shine through in court and possibly it'll help some of his Dumpster followers get a clearer understanding of this smug, vile mammal.

 

Based on the questioning in this Fall 2022  deposition, I'd speculate bank fraud may be part of the focus of the Dump inditement.   

 

 

22 hours ago, vandeventer said:

Anyone with a name other that Trumps would not be having a hearing. Give up, he is running in 2024 and he will win by a landslide.

Any body other than trump who had done what trump has done would be in a supermax prison tho only reason this hasent happen to trump allready is money and he was once potus remember thease are the least serious ones we still have the documents case j6 attempted coup case Georgia election interference case for starters 

3 hours ago, vandeventer said:

You can't handle the truth! I hear that in a movie but it applies here. We will all find out tomorrow about truth, lets hope the justice system swings both ways.

The truth is that Trump lost, regardless of what QAnon tells you.  You are free to present credible evidence to the contrary, but nobody expects that to happen.

44 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

It's not a moment of truth it's a moment of get Trump at any cost. I don't think Biden will in power much longer and yes the headlights will be on him, we will just have to wait.

Biden won't be President much longer?  Another QAnon promise/prediction?  How many times does QAnon have to be wrong before people realize it is a nonsensical scam?

23 minutes ago, Tug said:

Any body other than trump who had done what trump has done would be in a supermax prison tho only reason this hasent happen to trump allready is money and he was once potus remember thease are the least serious ones we still have the documents case j6 attempted coup case Georgia election interference case for starters 

Cohen is a prime example....

20 hours ago, vandeventer said:

Even Soros is backing away from Bragg.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/soros-distances-himself-manhattan-da-bragg-trump-indictment?dicbo=v2-KHq8lqo

That's only because Trump is trying to associate him with Bragg. Just one of Trumps dirty little antisemitic dog whistles.

4 hours ago, vandeventer said:

The truth is not obvious when the focus is on the wrong people. Bragg is your huckleberry followed by Biden and his family of crime. But most here  can't or don't want to see that. It's going to be a sad day for America however it turns out.

If you truly believe that then all you need to do is to prove it irrefutably.

 

If you are sure that you have the 100% verifiable truth, then send it to the courts, the GOP and the social media.

 

If you don't have the proof and you cannot prove what you say, then please stop posting your BS beliefs.

 

Post the real truth even as you see it, and then be prepared to have your truth refuted in front of you, by the real verified truth.

6 hours ago, vandeventer said:

You can't handle the truth! I hear that in a movie but it applies here. We will all find out tomorrow about truth, lets hope the justice system swings both ways.

Says the 2020 election results denier. It is to laugh.

30 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Says the 2020 election results denier. It is to laugh.

Well, at least he is admitting it. He is likely not the only poster on this forum. There are several other posters whom I have never seen admitting elections were not rigged. At best, they wrote that Trump should have let it down, without mentioning he was lying.

23 hours ago, vandeventer said:

Even Soros is backing away from Bragg.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/soros-distances-himself-manhattan-da-bragg-trump-indictment?dicbo=v2-KHq8lqo

More rubbish.

Donald Trump ties George Soros to Alvin Bragg. Experts say connection is mischaracterized

 

Some off topic trolling posts and the replies have been removed.

6 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

Are they Democrat experts? So Soros is clean? This must be a first!

I could ask you for credible links to prove Soro's 'uncleanliness' but we both know that would be a waste of time......

4 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

Are they Democrat experts? So Soros is clean? This must be a first!

Soros the bogeyman. Can you lay out why you and republicans put him on the pedestal of evil? Yes he supports democracy, and pushes back against despots, and backs liberal causes that may not be your cup of tea, but I have never quite heard exactly what it is he proven to have done, except have a different point of view to Republicans and some money to back his causes. If you read his Wiki page you'll see his done some positive things even from your viewpoint I should think. 

 

My prediction is these charges tomorrow are going to be at the higher end of expectations as I doubt they would have otherwise proceeded. 

For Trump, indictment in Stormy Daniels case is just the tip of the iceberg

 

"While Tuesday’s arraignment of former President Donald Trump will be the first time a former U.S. president has been charged with criminal offenses, it likely won’t be the last. By summer’s end, Trump could be charged in no fewer than four separate criminal investigations.

In fact, while Trump’s indictment stemming from his $130,000 hush money payment to adult-film star Stormy Daniels represents a legal threat to the former president, the others may carry a greater risk of serious consequences, including a possible prison sentence."

 

They are:

1. Georgia election interference

2. Jan. 6 investigation

3. Classified documents at Mar-a-Lago

1 hour ago, Phoenix Rising said:

For Trump, indictment in Stormy Daniels case is just the tip of the iceberg

 

"While Tuesday’s arraignment of former President Donald Trump will be the first time a former U.S. president has been charged with criminal offenses, it likely won’t be the last. By summer’s end, Trump could be charged in no fewer than four separate criminal investigations.

In fact, while Trump’s indictment stemming from his $130,000 hush money payment to adult-film star Stormy Daniels represents a legal threat to the former president, the others may carry a greater risk of serious consequences, including a possible prison sentence."

 

They are:

1. Georgia election interference

2. Jan. 6 investigation

3. Classified documents at Mar-a-Lago

There are more.

April 25 E.Jean Carroll trial

Oct 2 Civil case brought by NY AG Letitia James on tax fraud

Jan 24 Civil lawsuit over an alleged fraudulent multilevel marketing scheme Trump promoted brought by plaintiffs who invested and then faced considerable fimancial losses.

 

There are more lawsuits against Trump that remain pending and could still go to trial. The guy is a giant magnet for committing crimes. Kind of career criminal. 

Less than half an hour after Yahoo! News Chief Investigative Correspondent Michael Isakoff revealed on Monday that all thirty-four indictments filed by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg against former President Donald Trump for falsifying business records are Class E felonies, Trump threw a tantrum on his Truth Social app.

Once Trump turns himself in on Tuesday, Isakoff learned from a source "who has been briefed on the procedures" that "a New York City police arrest report summarizing the charges against Trump will then be prepared and entered into the court system before he is led into a courtroom to be formally arraigned on the charges, none of which are misdemeanors."

 

https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-furiously-demands-alvin-bragg-indict-himself-following-leak-of-pending-criminal-charges-2659735024/

46 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Less than half an hour after Yahoo! News Chief Investigative Correspondent Michael Isakoff revealed on Monday that all thirty-four indictments filed by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg against former President Donald Trump for falsifying business records are Class E felonies, Trump threw a tantrum on his Truth Social app.

Once Trump turns himself in on Tuesday, Isakoff learned from a source "who has been briefed on the procedures" that "a New York City police arrest report summarizing the charges against Trump will then be prepared and entered into the court system before he is led into a courtroom to be formally arraigned on the charges, none of which are misdemeanors."

 

https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-furiously-demands-alvin-bragg-indict-himself-following-leak-of-pending-criminal-charges-2659735024/

The aging crime lord can smell the dusty cell he'll spend the rest of his unnatural life in. Just love to see him soil his nickers in public!