Trump has pleaded not guilty to 34 counts of falsifying business records

[Eric Loh]

30 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

A CNN poll shows 60% of Americans approve of Trump's indictment. I smell toast.

Marjorie TG will disagree with you. She compared Trump to Nelson Mandela ......wait for this..... and Jesus. Almost as laughable as sobbing Lindsey begging for donations. 

[ozimoron]

Just now, Eric Loh said:

Marjorie TG will disagree with you. She compared Trump to Nelson Mandela ......wait for this..... and Jesus. Almost as laughable as sobbing Lindsey begging for donations. 

Wait. Wasn't Mandela jailed for decades? And Jesus was executed? Nice comparison.

[tilaceer]

17 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

Again  what  is the crime behind the 34 counts that Bragg's never said?

Have you even read the indictment ?
Each count lists the crime that he is being accused of.

Do some research for a change, instead of wanting to be spoon fed.
I would suspect that even the right wing media outlets have a copy of the indictment available.

For example

"AND THE GRAND JURY AFORESAID, by this indictment, further accuses the defendant of the crime of FALSIFYING BUSINESS RECORDS IN THE FIRST DEGREE, in violation of Penal Law §175.10, committed as follows:"

[ozimoron]

“Pundits have been speculating that Trump would be charged with lying about the hush money payments to illegally affect an election, and that theory rests on controversial legal issues and could be hard to prove,” Roiphe told The Times.

“It turns out the indictment also includes a claim that Trump falsified records to commit a state tax crime. …That’s a much simpler charge that avoids the potential pitfalls.”

 

https://www.rawstory.com/this-surprise-allegation-could-spell-trouble-for-trump-heres-why/

[Salerno]

54 minutes ago, Tug said:

Now the question is how long can old Donnie hold himself in check before he starts the usual spiel I’m sure somebody is taking bets on it!

Didn't take long (full of lies and deflections).

 

 

[Pink Mist]

34 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

Again  what  is the crime behind the 34 counts that Bragg's never said?

I would ask that you please review certain factual items before you post asking a question such as this.  DA Bragg did explain the crimes Former President Donald Trump has committed:  Below is an excerpt from a press conference which was held after the arraignment.

 

Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg says "thorough investigation" led to Trump indictment - CBS News

 

Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg told reporters Tuesday after the arraignment of former President Donald Trump that a "thorough investigation" led to his office's decision to charge Trump with 34 felony counts of falsifying business records.

 

"This is the business capital of the world," Bragg said about New York City. "We regularly do cases involving false business statements. The bedrock of the basis for business integrity and a well-functioning business marketplace is accurate record-keeping." 

[heybruce]

2 hours ago, vandeventer said:

Again, a big nothing burger! So what is the crime of intent behind the 34 counts?

You really need to start reading the information in front of you before you post.

[Berkshire]

7 minutes ago, heybruce said:

3 hours ago, vandeventer said:

Again, a big nothing burger! So what is the crime of intent behind the 34 counts?

You really need to start reading the information in front of you before you post.

For Trump supporters, knowledge is like kryptonite.

[heybruce]

3 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Isn't it a bit funny that after years of trying to put Mr Trump behind bars they come up with money paid to a porn star. So now the media can concentrate on this instead of the other more important issues plaguing the country like immigration, homelessness and drugs. 

You forgot to include insurrection on your list.

[2baht]

1 hour ago, Salerno said:

Didn't take long (full of lies and deflections).

Contempt of Court with an ounce of luck!

[Eric Loh]

20 minutes ago, Salerno said:

Didn't take long (full of lies and deflections).

 

 

Low energy speech. 

[vandeventer]

17 minutes ago, Pink Mist said:

I would ask that you please review certain factual items before you post asking a question such as this.  DA Bragg did explain the crimes Former President Donald Trump has committed:  Below is an excerpt from a press conference which was held after the arraignment.

 

Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg says "thorough investigation" led to Trump indictment - CBS News

 

Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg told reporters Tuesday after the arraignment of former President Donald Trump that a "thorough investigation" led to his office's decision to charge Trump with 34 felony counts of falsifying business records.

 

"This is the business capital of the world," Bragg said about New York City. "We regularly do cases involving false business statements. The bedrock of the basis for business integrity and a well-functioning business marketplace is accurate record-keeping." 

So, what makes it a Felony when there is no intent to defraud? 

[Dan O]

1 hour ago, johnnybangkok said:

But why is it 'infinitesimal'? By bribing Stormy D and taking care of all the other stories that were being bandied around at the time through 'catch and kill', he effectively paid his way out of any negative press at a time when it could have seen him lose the White House. This is pretty significant when you consider Hilary lost because of the server stories being touted at exactly the same time. 

One could argue it was far from ' infinitesimal' when you consider what was at stake.

 

Actually you pretty close to the mark on this. The hush money in itself is fairly insignificant but when you couple that with the timing of his campaign and trying to hide it is the basis for many of the charges he's facing in this indictment. 

[n00dle]

5 hours ago, Salerno said:

Does this pic from his arrival at Trump Towers look like a happy man without a care in the world waving to his "fans" or a worried man realising his history is starting to catch up with him? 

he looks like a thalidomide victim offering a nazi salute

[Pink Mist]

6 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

So, what makes it a Felony when there is no intent to defraud? 

You should really do more research.  It rises to the level of a felony in New York when you falsify those records to conceal the crime committed.  Which Donald Trump did by allegedly having the payments marked as other than what they were actually for.  

 

https://thehill-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/thehill.com/business/3934284-what-is-falsifying-business-records-we-break-down-the-trump-34-count-indictment/amp/?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From %1%24s&aoh=16806665663558&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fbusiness%2F3934284-what-is-falsifying-business-records-we-break-down-the-trump-34-count-indictment%2F

 

New York law states that falsifying business records rises to a felony when an individual's “intent to defraud includes an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof.”

[Pink Mist]

A Baiting Troll post dragging President Biden into the OP has been removed. Continue and face suspension.

[LosLobo]

3 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Isn't it a bit funny that after years of trying to put Mr Trump behind bars they come up with money paid to a porn star. So now the media can concentrate on this instead of the other more important issues plaguing the country like immigration, homelessness and drugs. 

Just like GOP House, instead of other more important issues plaguing the country is concentrating on Fox's shopping list of grievances like Biden laptop, impeaching Fauci and Mayorkas, DOJ/FBI bias and the Afghan withdrawal you mean?

[vandeventer]

11 minutes ago, Pink Mist said:

You should really do more research.  It rises to the level of a felony in New York when you falsify those records to conceal the crime committed.  Which Donald Trump did by allegedly having the payments marked as other than what they were actually for.  

 

https://thehill-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/thehill.com/business/3934284-what-is-falsifying-business-records-we-break-down-the-trump-34-count-indictment/amp/?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From %1%24s&aoh=16806665663558&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fbusiness%2F3934284-what-is-falsifying-business-records-we-break-down-the-trump-34-count-indictment%2F

 

New York law states that falsifying business records rises to a felony when an individual's “intent to defraud includes an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof.”

Even if you are right, felony charges have a time limit of 5 years and this happen 7 years ago. So why go after Trump now? are all you Dems. scared he will win in 2024? Or are you just full of hate?

[vandeventer]

4 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

Just like GOP House, instead of other more important issues plaguing the country is concentrating on Fox's shopping list of grievances like Biden laptop, impeaching Fauci and Mayorkas, DOJ/FBI bias and the Afghan withdrawal you mean?

Yes all the above and much much more.

[vandeventer]

58 minutes ago, heybruce said:

You really need to start reading the information in front of you before you post.

Did you find the underlining crime yet, keep looking as you won't find one.

[LosLobo]

17 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

Yes all the above and much much more.

How can the media concentrate and report on other more important issues plaguing the country when you acknowledge that half of the Govt i.e. the House is doing the opposite.

 

All the media doesn't make things up like Fox et alia.

 

But obviously you would not know that if you only watch Fake Fox News.

 

Edited April 5, 2023 by LosLobo

[thaibeachlovers]

2 hours ago, Dan O said:

Plenty of reports available to you but it appears you can't be bothered. If you can't be bothered then apply your same comments to your own posts

From the top of World news subforum.

 

Any alleged factual claims must be supported by a valid link to an approved credible source.

 

Do you understand what "must" means?

[thaibeachlovers]

20 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

Even if you are right, felony charges have a time limit of 5 years and this happen 7 years ago. So why go after Trump now? are all you Dems. scared he will win in 2024? Or are you just full of hate?

I guess that was a rhetorical question at the end.

[gargamon]

The “teflon“ don has turned into the “velcro“ don. After a lifetime of weaseling out of his legal problems it looks like everything is now going to stick. This is only the beginning. The chickens are coming home to roost. 

[Changoverandout]

4 hours ago, stoner said:

what a great reflection of america as a whole. 

... as a hole.

[ozimoron]

25 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

Even if you are right, felony charges have a time limit of 5 years and this happen 7 years ago. So why go after Trump now? are all you Dems. scared he will win in 2024? Or are you just full of hate?

Maybe because he couldn't be prosecuted for 4 of those years and it takes time to build a case. Most of the time was involved in the witnesses making the decision to squeal once their gravy train had come to a halt. The dems are definitely not afraid of Trump running, the last elections proved that emphatically.

[ozimoron]

8 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

From the top of World news subforum.

 

Any alleged factual claims must be supported by a valid link to an approved credible source.

 

Do you understand what "must" means?

Wow, here you are lecturing others on producing links. I'm flabbergasted. Can I remind you of this every time you fail to do that? Oh wait, I already have, dozens of times.

[vandeventer]

5 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

How can the media concentrate and report on other more important issues plaguing the country when you acknowledge that half of the Govt i.e. the House is doing the opposite.

 

All the media doesn't make things up like Fox et alia.

 

But obviously you would not know that if you only watch Fake Fox News.

 

Did you know that the judge worked for VP Harris's daughter? so he should have excused himself?

[ozimoron]

Just now, vandeventer said:

Did you know that the judge worked for VP Harris's daughter? so he should have excused himself?

So should Trump's appointees on the supreme court. I didn't notice you complaining that they didn't.

[LosLobo]

Interesting analysis and fact checking of Trump's speech from Florida today!

 

Fact-checking Trump’s comments and ‘truths’ on arraignment day - The Washington Post (googleusercontent.com)