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Thailand notches highest temperature on record as 'monster' heat wave roasts Southeast Asia

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1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

A lot of people in Thailand don't have air con. Locals I'm talking about. Regardless you are not at home all the time:

 

A Thai man was found dead in front of a coffin shop in Kanchanaburi. It is believed he died from the extreme heat of 40 degrees Celsius

https://thethaiger.com/news/national/thai-man-found-dead-in-front-of-coffin-shop-due-to-extreme-heat

More people die from extreme cold than heat. Malnutrition would be a huge factor for a homeless person. Lack of electrolytes and other nutrients.

 

 

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    Spoke to my GF in Chonburi today and she was quoting figures of 54c. It seems that the climate brigade have jumped on the "real feel" or "feels like" figure rather than the actual figure. Last week I

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4 hours ago, Skeptic7 said:

April/May is historically the hottest month throughout Thailand. There may be some local exceptions, but generally these 2 months are at the top for most/all regions. For whatever the causes, the temps globally are trending up, so no surprise it's hotter this year than last or 5-10-20 years back. This year is also an "El Nino" weather pattern year, which makes for hotter and drier conditions in SE Asia. 

 

This an excellent and easy to use sight for climate data, averages, etc for nearly anywhere. Just input a country, province, state or city into the search ????.

https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/thailand/bangkok/climate

Thanks for bringing in both a source of data AND a mention of the El Nino that is forming. Here is another site that lets people see the current forecast and compare it to historical averages. I like that it maps the data. The root site gives far more options.
https://climatereanalyzer.org/wx/fcst_outlook/?dm_id=asia-lea2&ndays=d1-3

From that site, the maximum temperatures map choice across the region as captured on Wednesday is in this image. The whitish color indicates temperatures over 40ºC. People looking at the mapping of temperature anomaly will see that Thailand , and SE Asia in general is warmer than average. The global news did get kicked into attention when the April 14th temperatures broke a lot of records, notably in Tak, which was recorded to have hit 45.4ºC.
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The historical data for specific satellite readings on heat, humidity, misery index, pollution and more can be accessed at this site.
https://earth.nullschool.net/#2023/04/18/0700Z/wind/surface/level/overlay=temp/orthographic=-265.36,17.23,1823/loc=99.429,16.842

 

El Nino is VERY worth mentioning because during El Nino the oceans release more of their heat to the atmosphere than during La Nina (when the heat gets stored into ocean depths.) As El Nino arrives FOUR different indicators are in a bad starting position. Here is how (with references)
♦ Sea Surface temperatures are at a record high, have been so since early March, and are not yet dropping as past years have done.
https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/sst_daily/
♦ All 3 persistent greenhouse gases are at record high concentrations, trapping more heat into Earth's system
https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/monthly.html
♦ We are entering this summer with the 2nd lowest Arctic Sea Ice Volume on record. (We also know the waters beneath the ice are warmer than in past years.
http://polarportal.dk/fileadmin/polarportal/sea/CICE_curve_thick_LA_EN_20230414.png
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Just now, bignok said:

More people die from extreme cold than heat. Malnutrition would be a huge factor for a homeless person. Lack of electrolytes and other nutrients.

 

 

More people also die from car accidents, we are talking about the extreme heat being experienced right now..............

Phuket is 28, feels like 32.

 

Source:Meteored.

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

More people also die from car accidents, we are talking about the extreme heat being experienced right now..............

Not hot everywhere. 28 in Phuket.

Just now, bignok said:

Not hot everywhere. 28 in Phuket.

I'm in Phuket right now, its hot its 33 and feels like 40

Go south if its too hot in north. Samui is only 29.

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Just now, Bkk Brian said:

I'm in Phuket right now, its hot its 33 and feels like 40

Meteored says 28.

Sukhothai 38. One of the hottest towns in Thailand.

9 hours ago, soi3eddie said:

I think @spidermike007 means remote from rest of the world. In SE Asia there are about a dozen countries to visit within 4 hours flying time of Bangkok.  How many countries are within 4 hours of main cities in Australia?

 

I can count at least 7 from Brisbane, similar for Darwin. (Boeing 777 cruising at 500 knots)

Just now, bignok said:

Which websites are more accurate?

What did you write in an earlier post? Oh yes: 

 

"Don't believe anyone. Walk outside see for yourself."

 

I did that, walked outside and its hot in Phuket, the same as the temp chart I posted

 

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

What did you write in an earlier post? Oh yes: 

 

"Don't believe anyone. Walk outside see for yourself."

 

I did that, walked outside and its hot in Phuket, the same as the temp chart I posted

 

29 to 33 aint hot. 38 to 40 is hot. Thailand is always hot in April.

Just now, bignok said:

29 to 33 aint hot. 38 to 40 is hot. Thailand is always hot in April.

agreed:

 

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7 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

agreed:

 

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Humidity only 58%. This feels like stuff is a bit of nonsense.

Just now, bignok said:

Humidity only 58%. This feels like stuff is a bit of nonsense.

The nonsense being you are not in Phuket to experience it yet still trying to tell me what it feels like..........

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Just now, Bkk Brian said:

The nonsense being you are not in Phuket to experience it yet still trying to tell me what it feels like..........

Having been to Phuket many times and spent time in Ayuthaya, Ubon, Surin, Buriram in April I can tell you Phuket has dream weather.

Today is turning out to be not so bad. Humidity way down around 40 percent in the western suburbs of Bangkok.  And temperature is at 40, too. Might get to 42 or so with this low humidity in a couple of hours. But all in all, things feel much better today.

4 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

The feels like, is actually the ‘Heat Index’ its a genuine figure and is calculated based on the actual temperature combined with he humidity. 

 

We can be in the middle of the dry desert at 50 Deg C and its does not feel as hot as Bangkok at 36 Deg C with 90% humidity. 

Its the same with cool weather, we can be on the side of a mountain at -10 Deg C yet 5 Deg C in the UK feels colder. 

 

In the Heat Index is more relevant to how ‘we feel’ in the weather and thus more relevant to ‘human safety’ especially in when encountering extreme weather. 

 

 

 

 

  RS>correct "We can be in the middle of the dry desert at 50 Deg C and its does not feel as hot as Bangkok at 36 Deg C with 90% humidity."  

That was my experience in Iran where I was working 50c hardly any humidity..not pleasant but bearable.

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12 hours ago, soi3eddie said:

Spoke to my GF in Chonburi today and she was quoting figures of 54c. It seems that the climate brigade have jumped on the "real feel" or "feels like" figure rather than the actual figure.

I spent an hour exercising in the local outdoor exercise park this morning. The thermometer read 33° and it felt like 33° to me. 

 

I've been in desert environments with high actual temperatures and very low humidity. The low humidity didn't make it "feel" cooler. 33° in the desert feels like 33° in a very dry environment. I'm much more comfortable in the humidity. Heat Index temperatures are a click bait headline generating phenomenon. 

3 hours ago, bignok said:

Run the tap for 60 seconds until it cools down. Pipes heat up.

No, it's only cool for the first 15 seconds, then it's warm as the hot water from the roof makes its way down (this is a condo). Of course it depends where your water tank is kept, but in a condo it's usually on the roof. The last place I lived was a townhouse and the tank was in the basement, providing cooler showers.

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3 hours ago, RPCVguy said:

Thanks for bringing in both a source of data AND a mention of the El Nino that is forming. Here is another site that lets people see the current forecast and compare it to historical averages. I like that it maps the data. The root site gives far more options.
https://climatereanalyzer.org/wx/fcst_outlook/?dm_id=asia-lea2&ndays=d1-3

From that site, the maximum temperatures map choice across the region as captured on Wednesday is in this image. The whitish color indicates temperatures over 40ºC. People looking at the mapping of temperature anomaly will see that Thailand , and SE Asia in general is warmer than average. The global news did get kicked into attention when the April 14th temperatures broke a lot of records, notably in Tak, which was recorded to have hit 45.4ºC.
Apr19-21TempMax.png.d051a3eb128122469da08e8655085f2d.png


The historical data for specific satellite readings on heat, humidity, misery index, pollution and more can be accessed at this site.
https://earth.nullschool.net/#2023/04/18/0700Z/wind/surface/level/overlay=temp/orthographic=-265.36,17.23,1823/loc=99.429,16.842

 

El Nino is VERY worth mentioning because during El Nino the oceans release more of their heat to the atmosphere than during La Nina (when the heat gets stored into ocean depths.) As El Nino arrives FOUR different indicators are in a bad starting position. Here is how (with references)
♦ Sea Surface temperatures are at a record high, have been so since early March, and are not yet dropping as past years have done.
https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/sst_daily/
♦ All 3 persistent greenhouse gases are at record high concentrations, trapping more heat into Earth's system
https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/monthly.html
♦ We are entering this summer with the 2nd lowest Arctic Sea Ice Volume on record. (We also know the waters beneath the ice are warmer than in past years.
http://polarportal.dk/fileadmin/polarportal/sea/CICE_curve_thick_LA_EN_20230414.png
♦ Solar radiance cycle is on its pattern of increase and will increase into 2026.
https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/products/solar-cycle-progression

 

If 44.6 C was the hottest recorded temperature in Thailand recorded in 2016, until a new record of 45.4C in 2023, that means that from 2017 - 2023 (7 years) the highs were lower than 44.6C. They are misusing statistics to suit their biased opinions. All it shows is a short 7-year cycle with no intermediate highs offered. Any cycle will have highs and lows. Were there highs at or lower than  43.8C in this 7-year period. If so, would they be claiming that the climate is cooling? Of course not. They are looking for numbers to suit their narrative.

 

I'd want to see what we never will see. Accurate temperature readings for hundreds of years. 

7 hours ago, bignok said:

Prove these laws work in the atmosphere then with carbon dioxide with links. Otherwise it's just a false unscientific claim. Saying god exists doesn't prove he does. Lots of scientific theories are just theories anyway. Even gravity isn't 100% proven.

You should educate yourself on the meaning of "theory" in science. It's not just a guess. BTW, do you think gravity may not exist? 

 

6 hours ago, bignok said:

Life. I don't even worry about it.

Water has always been the source of life.

People would soon start whinging if they didn't have any. I remember the days when you couldn't use the toilets in Walking Street because of the water shortage.

Bit of a stink if it happened today.

7 hours ago, jaideedave said:

If thats the case how are all the false doomsday predictions made over the years turning out?

Wrong Again: 50 Years of Failed Eco-pocalyptic Predictions

Predictions and models fail quite often when incorrect assumptions and data are used to formulate them. That's no reason to throw out the baby with the bathwater.

Go ahead, buy a beachfront property on Tuvalu. Forget about house insurance, you won't even get a quote for a premium.

7 hours ago, bignok said:

Prove these laws work in the atmosphere then with carbon dioxide with links. Otherwise it's just a false unscientific claim. Saying god exists doesn't prove he does. Lots of scientific theories are just theories anyway. Even gravity isn't 100% proven.

I suggest you step off the balcony on the 14th floor of a condo as a test of your last assertion. Of course, gravity won't kill you, just the sudden stop.

"Saying god exists doesn't prove he does". " It's just a false unscientific claim". I am wondering if you realize what you were doing by putting those two sentences together so closely. Begging the question squared.

Tell me, what are your academic qualifications which enable you to determine what is scientific and unscientific?

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