COVID-19 infections on the rise with 1,811 cases and 10 deaths last week

[redwood1]

6 minutes ago, shackleton said:

Why bother printing the Covi 19 numbers the government are not interested 

More concerned in having the Tourist numbers up and making money ???? ???? 

I still wear my face mask when out and so do the Majority of Thais where I stay 

Probably same in Bangkok and other cities in Thailand ^

I dont know where you live but the number of mask wearing Thais in Pattaya is way way way down from a few months ago...

[Andyfez]

Many many unreported.

Symptoms in most cases are so mild ...

[Bangkok Barry]

A fraction over one death a day. Okay. Now, how many a day died of cancer, diabetes etc etc etc.

[paddypower]

15 hours ago, transam said:

You are another that should avoid threads on Covid.........????..............

555 and remember to always drive with your mask on as well.

[paddypower]

14 hours ago, dinsdale said:

What this fails to tell is if Omicron caused the pnuemonia. Maybe he already had pnuemonia and that killed him. Omicron being an upper respiratory tract infection I would think pnuemonia would be not be a common complication of the virus.

Agreed. It's difficult to read anything into these reports, until there is more clarification, (which is not really Thai style reporting); to include more factors - eg  age  and co-morbidity, if any.

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COVID-19 infections on the rise with 1,811 cases and 10 deaths last week

[AustinRacing]

I’d multiply the figures by many times more. Some of my Thai friends who got it never went to hospital. Apparently it’s a shameful thing to admit. I am around many migrant workers. They were riddled with it during the pandemic. All were scared of going anywhere near authorities. 

[wealthychef]

Two questions come to mind here:  first, are the deaths "covid caused" or "covid involved?"  Second, how many deaths from the vaccine itself so far?  ????   

[ThailandRyan]

10 minutes ago, wealthychef said:

Two questions come to mind here:  first, are the deaths "covid caused" or "covid involved?"  Second, how many deaths from the vaccine itself so far?  ????   

I will never understand folks who believe that the vaccines are the problem. All vaccines for all viruses, Infections etc.. come with inherent risks dependant upon the individuals own body to accept or reject them.  As far as the Covid vaccines it has been debunked time and time again as being the issue with covid infections and deaths.

 

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-cdc-covid-vaccine-deaths-910677348223

 

Posts mischaracterize CDC data on COVID-19 vaccine deaths

 

By MELISSA GOLDINJanuary 12, 2023

 

 

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CLAIM: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported that more than 16,000 American deaths had been caused by the COVID-19 vaccines as of Dec. 23.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: Missing context. As of Dec. 23, the CDC reported that over two years it had received 18,007 preliminary reports through VAERS, a user-generated reporting system, of people dying after getting a COVID-19 vaccine. VAERS, run jointly by the CDC and the Food and Drug Administration, relies on unverified reports submitted by the general public. It does not prove that vaccines caused the adverse events reported. Claims about the safety of the vaccines based on data from VAERS have been debunked by The Associated Press on multiple occasions.

Edited May 3, 2023 by ThailandRyan

[Mavideol]

17 hours ago, ozz1 said:

Panic panic put your masks on and don't worry about all the people killed on the roads Thai logic

just wonder if u have kids in school because at my kid school infections detected on a daily basis, so far no deaths

[Yogiran]

So no correlation to son kran celebration?

[Toby1947]

Way behind civilised countries as usual talking about 1st, 2nd and 3rd doses. Whilst the West are now at 6th dose. But of course western governments are prepared to pay for the vaccine, draw your own conclusions about the mob in charge 

[DavisH]

3 hours ago, Mr Dome said:

It's not done with us yet. Good to see a 90+% masking rate on public transportation.

and 0% in restaurants...lol

[Burma Bill]

20 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

So far this year, 8,382 people have been infected and treated at hospitals

Out of a total Thai population of 71.6 million (2021) - not bad!

(ref. Google)

[Burma Bill]

3 hours ago, redwood1 said:

I dont know where you live but the number of mask wearing Thais in Pattaya is way way way down from a few months ago...

For reference: The South East Asian Games have started with football matches in Phnom Penh. For those of you "mask wearing" advocates, please note part of the capacity crowd of 50,000 for the opening match 3 days ago between Cambodia and Timor-Leste - a mask very difficult to spot! Thailand is participating.

 

 

https://www.khmertimeskh.com/501281661/sea-games-mens-u-22-football-cambodia-wins-4-0-against-timor-leste/

 

Edited May 3, 2023 by Burma Bill
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[Kevin Taylor]

17 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Yet as news continues and new issues from new strains are being seen Covid is still of concern. Covid is also still the leading cause of death around the world and not as you say in your post above:

 

"they also die in the thousands of other things every single day. far far more than covid now. the overall mass death threat that covid once was to the general population is now over.

 

https://news.yahoo.com/arcturus-covid-19-variant-spreading-184833692.html

 

1. According to health officials, COVID-19 is still a leading cause of death around the world, including in the United States where it’s tied to about 250 deaths daily.

 

2. The World Health Organization is currently classifying XBB.1.16 or Arcturus as a “variant under monitoring,” which is less serious than “variant of interest” or “variant of concern.” However, the classifications are fluid and can change at any time.

Here's the problem. I take it you read that article and believe everything they write to be true. I do not. That article says at 250 deaths a day covid is a leading killer. Google annual death rate USA and it is around 3.5 million annually so that's about 9 thousand 500 a day. 250 a day is a small percentage of that and that's if you believe they all died of covid.

[sidneybear]

3 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

I will never understand folks who believe that the vaccines are the problem. All vaccines for all viruses, Infections etc.. come with inherent risks dependant upon the individuals own body to accept or reject them.  As far as the Covid vaccines it has been debunked time and time again as being the issue with covid infections and deaths.

 

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-cdc-covid-vaccine-deaths-910677348223

 

Posts mischaracterize CDC data on COVID-19 vaccine deaths

 

By MELISSA GOLDINJanuary 12, 2023

 

 

ADVERTISEMENT

 

 

CLAIM: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported that more than 16,000 American deaths had been caused by the COVID-19 vaccines as of Dec. 23.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: Missing context. As of Dec. 23, the CDC reported that over two years it had received 18,007 preliminary reports through VAERS, a user-generated reporting system, of people dying after getting a COVID-19 vaccine. VAERS, run jointly by the CDC and the Food and Drug Administration, relies on unverified reports submitted by the general public. It does not prove that vaccines caused the adverse events reported. Claims about the safety of the vaccines based on data from VAERS have been debunked by The Associated Press on multiple occasions.

Asking for a friend: who fact checks the Associated Press fact checkers?

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

12 minutes ago, Kevin Taylor said:

Here's the problem. I take it you read that article and believe everything they write to be true. I do not. That article says at 250 deaths a day covid is a leading killer. Google annual death rate USA and it is around 3.5 million annually so that's about 9 thousand 500 a day. 250 a day is a small percentage of that and that's if you believe they all died of covid.

This is one of the most recently available U.S. cause of death rankings, as of last fall... COVID #3 as it often has been in the U.S.

 

The daily COVID death numbers in the U.S. have declined since last fall, so the eventual full year 2022 ranking probably will be lower.

 

 

https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/brief/covid-19-leading-cause-of-death-ranking/#Total deaths in the United States from COVID-19 and other leading causes, 2020-2022

 

Edited May 3, 2023 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, sidneybear said:

Asking for a friend: who fact checks the Associated Press fact checkers?

Tell your friend to read the article and follow the links it has published to the facts from CDC and other original sources.

[transam]

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Vax doesn't stop you getting Covid, it helps stop you dying from it.

 

Are you alive or dead....?    ????      

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[VBF]

5 hours ago, redwood1 said:

I dont know where you live but the number of mask wearing Thais in Pattaya is way way way down from a few months ago...

Having spent the last 2 months in Pattaya, I observed that the only place I was REQUIRED to wear a mask was in the SCB branch at Klang. Other places, and indeed in other banks mask wearing was optional.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

23 minutes ago, transam said:

Vax doesn't stop you getting Covid, it helps stop you dying from it.

The vaccines initially help prevent (reduce the risk) of you from becoming infected, and then longer term, also help prevent you being hospitalized from it as well...

 

Even amid Omicron, the current COVID vaccines DO reduce (not prevent) your likelihood of becoming just infected, especially in the first several months post injection.

 

Monovalent COVID booster protects well against Omicron, but it wanes over 6 months

 

"The monovalent (single-strain) COVID-19 vaccine booster was 74% effective against Omicron infection compared with the primary vaccine series for 3 months, but protection waned to 42% from 3 to 6 months and 36% after 6 months, estimates a study published yesterday in Influenza and Other Respiratory Viruses. "

 

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/monovalent-covid-booster-protects-well-against-omicron-it-wanes-over-6-months

 

No vaccine that I know of is 100% effective at preventing infection or illness...and they don't need to be in order to be considered vaccines.

 

The flu vaccine isn't. The shingles vaccine isn't. The polio vaccine isn't. They all stimulate an immune response to REDUCE your risk to varying extents of becoming ill from the particular issue. That's what vaccines, including the COVID vaccine, do.

 

Edited May 3, 2023 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[anrcaccount]

2 hours ago, Burma Bill said:

For reference: The South East Asian Games have started with football matches in Phnom Penh. For those of you "mask wearing" advocates, please note part of the capacity crowd of 50,000 for the opening match 3 days ago between Cambodia and Timor-Leste - a mask very difficult to spot! Thailand is participating.

 

 

https://www.khmertimeskh.com/501281661/sea-games-mens-u-22-football-cambodia-wins-4-0-against-timor-leste/

 

Every stadium, everywhere else in the world, every day, is like this. Barely a mask in sight. 

 

This is normal. 

 

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

The flu vaccine as one example of the above:

 

"While vaccine effectiveness (VE) can vary, recent studies show that flu vaccination reduces the risk of flu illness by between 40% and 60% among the overall population during seasons when most circulating flu viruses are well-matched to those used to make flu vaccines."

 

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-work/vaccineeffect.htm

 

"Flu vaccination has been shown in several studies to reduce severity of illness in people who get vaccinated but still get sick."

 

"Flu vaccination can reduce the risk of flu-associated hospitalization."

 

Pretty much just the same kind of benefits as the COVID vaccines have. Helps prevent infections, and helps reduce the risk of serious illness if the person becomes infected.

 

That's what many vaccines do, and they're still called and considered vaccines for the effects they produce.

 

Edited May 3, 2023 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[DD86]

The Covid whining is surging again.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

1 minute ago, DD86 said:

The Covid whining is surging again.

No, it's COVID hospitalizations in Thailand are surging again, up 10-fold in the past month to an average of 258 new COVID hospitalizations per day....

 

That's why you're seeing multiple news reports on the subject lately... If crimes or traffic accidents increased 10-fold in a month, you'd  be reading about those increases too.

 

April 2-8, 2023

 

April 23-29, 2023

 

https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/photos

 

[Burma Bill]

18 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

No, it's COVID hospitalizations in Thailand are surging again, up 10-fold in the past month to an average of 258 new COVID hospitalizations per day....

With respect, and as I have stated elsewhere in this post, out of a population of 71.6 million people???

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

8 minutes ago, Burma Bill said:

With respect, and as I have stated elsewhere in this post, out of a population of 71.6 million people???

They're only counting / publicly reporting COVID hospitalizations, not just COVID infections.

 

One doctor here recently estimated that COVID infections in Thailand could be running 13,000 to 18,000 per week.

 

"Dr. Thira Woratanarat, a doctor at the Faculty of Medicine of Chulalongkorn University, said that the actual number of infections between 23^rd and 29^th of April may, however, actually be between 12,936 and 17,967, when allowing for the many cases which go unreported and do not seek treatment at hospitals."

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/covid-19-infections-on-the-rise-with-1811-cases-and-10-deaths-last-week/

 

And every time a new person becomes infected, that then creates a new opportunity to spread the virus to everyone they come into relatively close contact with while infected.

 

 

 

Edited May 3, 2023 by TallGuyJohninBKK