1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

I don't think there are any credible sources.

Only sources that fit your personal agenda (whatever that may be).

Take it up with the mods.

On 8/29/2023 at 5:51 PM, Purdey said:

Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell, 81, stops and stares blankly into space. Not too old.  Sen. Chuck Grassley is 88 years old. Older than Biden but who cares?

While it's an attrocity, IMO, that anyone past retiring age should be a representative, to state the flaming obvious, neither of them is the leader of the free world ( though I hope they come up with a better term than that as IMO the "free" world ain't free any longer ).

On 8/29/2023 at 5:56 PM, Danderman123 said:

This topic has devolved into MAGA types making unsubstantiated accusations which are quickly rebutted with documented facts.

LOL. IMO it's the opposite.

Anyway, I can't be a MAGA type as I'm not an American, and I don't care if America is great or not, just as long as they keep China away from me till I pass.

However, the mere thought of those two being in charge of the "free world" for another 4 years terrifies me.

23 hours ago, BritManToo said:

They believe the poll if it's a woke answer.

They slam the poll if it's unwoke.

Really easy to understand.

 

I think all the polls are suspect, and just reflect the political opinions of those paying for the poll. 

Indeed. A poll can support any contention, depending on the wording, IMO.

Edited August 30, 20232 yr by thaibeachlovers

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

LOL. IMO it's the opposite.

Anyway, I can't be a MAGA type as I'm not an American, and I don't care if America is great or not, just as long as they keep China away from me till I pass.

However, the mere thought of those two being in charge of the "free world" for another 4 years terrifies me.

Until and unless Russia is evicted from Ukraine, China cannot be deterred.

 

Trump was and is weak on Ukraine, much to the delight of Xi.

1 minute ago, Danderman123 said:

Until and unless Russia is evicted from Ukraine, China cannot be deterred.

 

Trump was and is weak on Ukraine, much to the delight of Xi.

I suspect American nukes are a sufficient deterrent, at least for what is left of my time on this planet.

7 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

LOL. IMO it's the opposite.

Anyway, I can't be a MAGA type as I'm not an American, and I don't care if America is great or not, just as long as they keep China away from me till I pass.

However, the mere thought of those two being in charge of the "free world" for another 4 years terrifies me.

You don't need to be American to by a MAGA type, you live in New Zealand right? 

 

Who would've thought a hat emblazoned with a United States politician's slogan would cause so much controversy half a world away in New Zealand? But during the past two weeks, that's what's happened with Make America Great Again caps.

In late May, new National Party leader Todd Muller came under fire for displaying a MAGA hat in his office.

Then, a teacher wore a Make America Great Again hat to a Black Lives Matter protest in Auckland after African American man George Floyd was killed by a US police officer who knelt on his neck for more than eight minutes, sparking outrage both at the event and online and leading to a flurry of complaints to the Teachers' Council.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/121723741/maga-hats-a-relic-of-a-dark-and-racist-history

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I suspect American nukes are a sufficient deterrent, at least for what is left of my time on this planet.

American nukes cannot be used against China except in the event of a direct attack on the US.

 

Xi is too smart for that. Unless Russia is defeated, Xi will attack the "grey areas" where America cannot use nukes. Like Putin attacked Ukraine.

11 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

LOL. IMO it's the opposite.

Anyway, I can't be a MAGA type as I'm not an American, and I don't care if America is great or not, just as long as they keep China away from me till I pass.

However, the mere thought of those two being in charge of the "free world" for another 4 years terrifies me.

Does New Zealand have a law prohibiting its citizens from being fans of foreign political leaders and their programs? Is it treason, if you do?  If not, you can definitely be a fan of Make America Great Again and Donald Trump.

On 8/29/2023 at 5:59 PM, Liverpool Lou said:

Yet you seem to be the kind of person who thinks that "links" must be facts!

???? Your logic is astonishing

 

On 8/29/2023 at 7:45 PM, ozimoron said:

 You can rest assured that whatever links are, no links are not facts.

I don't believe he knows what links are, nor what purpose they fulfill

On 8/29/2023 at 12:59 PM, Liverpool Lou said:

Yet you seem to be the kind of person who thinks that "links" must be facts!

Can you describe a better way of demonstrating facts here than using linked articles?

11 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Can you describe a better way of demonstrating facts here than using linked articles?

Possibly a description of what a'link' actually is and what it does would help Liverpool Lou.

Heres  joke. 

Trump and Biden both sitting in a jail cell together. 

One turns to the other and says,  "What you in for? "

The other responds "Same as you! "

22 minutes ago, TimeMachine said:

Heres  joke. 

Trump and Biden both sitting in a jail cell together. 

One turns to the other and says,  "What you in for? "

The other responds "Same as you! "

Insurrection?  Paying off a pornstar while your wife is pregnant?  

Here's a Bloomberg video that explains the 90+ charges - please match those with which Biden would be charged. 

???? Thanks in advance

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-08-01/all-the-charges-trump-now-faces-and-all-the-prison-time-too?in_source=embedded-checkout-banner

Edited August 31, 20232 yr by Sing_Sling

23 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

American nukes cannot be used against China except in the event of a direct attack on the US.

 

Xi is too smart for that. Unless Russia is defeated, Xi will attack the "grey areas" where America cannot use nukes. Like Putin attacked Ukraine.

If you were Xi, how sure would you be that the US would not use nukes if they invaded Australia?

I'm not claiming that they would be a first response.

2 hours ago, TimeMachine said:

Heres  joke. 

Trump and Biden both sitting in a jail cell together. 

One turns to the other and says,  "What you in for? "

The other responds "Same as you! "

Still waiting for the punchline. 

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Still waiting for the punchline. 

Maybe it's in the 90+ charges against Trump

Biden keeps improving the lot of the poor people where Trump was just interested in union busting and creating a "white slavery" economy.

 

President Joe Biden's administration is set to propose a new rule setting up millions more U.S. workers eligible for overtime pay under the Fair Labor and Standards Act.

 

According to copies of the proposed rule distributed to media outlets Wednesday, the Department of Labor will require employers to pay time-and-a-half to salaried workers making less than $55,000 a year—a number significantly higher than the $35,568 established under the Trump administration in 2019.

 

"For over 80 years, a cornerstone of workers' rights in this country is the right to a 40-hour workweek, the promise that you get to go home after 40 hours or you get higher pay for each extra hour that you spend laboring away from your loved ones," Acting Labor Secretary Julie Su said in a statement DOL officials provided to Newsweek.

 

https://www.newsweek.com/biden-wants-increase-salaries-millions-americans-who-qualifies-1823480

 

5 hours ago, Sing_Sling said:

Insurrection?  Paying off a pornstar while your wife is pregnant?  

Here's a Bloomberg video that explains the 90+ charges - please match those with which Biden would be charged. 

???? Thanks in advance

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-08-01/all-the-charges-trump-now-faces-and-all-the-prison-time-too?in_source=embedded-checkout-banner

The charge is dishonesty.  That's the jokes punchline.  Both are as dishonest as each other. Its not about counting felonies and grading each other. 

5 minutes ago, TimeMachine said:

The charge is dishonesty.  That's the jokes punchline.  Both are as dishonest as each other. Its not about counting felonies and grading each other. 

All politicians in all countries are by definition dishonest to one degree or another!

Some just take it to Mega MAGA heights!

Edited August 31, 20232 yr by scottiejohn

2 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

All politicians in all countries are by definition dishonest to one degree or another!

Some just take it to Mega MAGA heights!

They both do mega dishonesty. . Equally as dishonest as each other.  Perfectly the same. Matching like two peas.  Twins. 

7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If you were Xi, how sure would you be that the US would not use nukes if they invaded Australia?

I'm not claiming that they would be a first response.

The point is that Xi would be a lot more aggressive if the US dropped its support for Ukraine.

 

Conversely, if Ukraine wins and Putin is deposed/killed, Xi is going to think twice about future aggresive moves.

It's pretty obvious that the single motivation for the GOP house going after Hunter Biden is to provide a deflection away from Kushner and Trump. H Biden is small potatoes by comparison.

 

Democrats Demand Subpoena of Trump Son-in-Law Jared Kushner Over Saudi Business Deal

 

As Republicans hound first son Hunter Biden, Democrats want them to pursue former first family member Kushner over $2 billion he accepted from the Saudis

 

Kushner has come under scrutiny for his cozy relationship with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, who controls his kingdom's fund. Even Comer, one of the House GOP’s top Biden attack dogs, has suggested the Kushner-Saudi deal may not be above board.

 

“I’ve been vocal that I think that what Kushner did crossed the line of ethics,” Comer said to CNN earlier this month.

 

https://themessenger.com/politics/democrats-demand-subpoena-of-trump-son-in-law-jared-kushner-over-saudi-business-deal

Edited August 31, 20232 yr by ozimoron

when i saw fox news i stop reason with them

On 8/29/2023 at 12:16 PM, BritManToo said:

As a left winger I think all the extremely rich (legit or not) should be lined up against a wall and shot. Anyone thinking different is probably a right winger.

 

But it's funny to see all you faux lefty wokes trying to justify the crooked actions of the 'suddenly rich'. 

Pathetic response from a similar poster.

On 8/29/2023 at 12:16 PM, BritManToo said:

As a left winger I think all the extremely rich (legit or not) should be lined up against a wall and shot. Anyone thinking different is probably a right winger.

 

But it's funny to see all you faux lefty wokes trying to justify the crooked actions of the 'suddenly rich'. 

That would be Jared Kushner.

On 8/31/2023 at 6:10 PM, TimeMachine said:

They both do mega dishonesty. . Equally as dishonest as each other.  Perfectly the same. Matching like two peas.  Twins. 

If Joe Biden is guilty of such "mega dishonesty," why is is that the House Oversight Committee, (with its broad jurisdictional and legislative authority and under the chairmanship of James Comer, who has made it his mission to unearth any wrongdoing by the President) has been unable to find a single shred of actual evidence against him?

9 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

If Joe Biden is guilty of such "mega dishonesty," why is is that the House Oversight Committee, (with its broad jurisdictional and legislative authority and under the chairmanship of James Comer, who has made it his mission to unearth any wrongdoing by the President) has been unable to find a single shred of actual evidence against him?

Why?  Because such 'dishonesty' lives only in the minds of the hypocritical, one-eyed apologists

On 8/31/2023 at 10:59 PM, TimeMachine said:

The charge is dishonesty.  That's the jokes punchline.  Both are as dishonest as each other. Its not about counting felonies and grading each other. 

So, charges/felonies are irrelevant.   A person who crossed the street when the lights were red is thrown into the same basket as Charles Manson, or the Bali bomber.  Nice, I like your logic but there still isn't a 'punchline'. 

11 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

If Joe Biden is guilty of such "mega dishonesty," why is is that the House Oversight Committee, (with its broad jurisdictional and legislative authority and under the chairmanship of James Comer, who has made it his mission to unearth any wrongdoing by the President) has been unable to find a single shred of actual evidence against him?

A simple answer. Nobody has been able to account for the 10s of millions of $ the biden family including children received into a web of shady llc's and shell companies from extremely unsavoury foreigners linked to despotic regimes in countries VP biden held huge influence.

The only answer the left had to this was to falsely claim without evidence that the payments were a conspiracy theory and to engage in deeply troubling censorship of inconvenient facts against their man. They banned fact from discussion!

Now we know the payments were made, and I think we all know why. The evidence is overwhelming. 

 

Bank records

Undisputed witness testimony

Fd1023's outlining bribery in Ukraine

The laptop

All the emails

Bank suspicious transfer alerts. 175 of them

Inexplicable wealth

No denials

A constantly changing narrative by biden bros.

IRS whistleblowers stating the DOJ botched the investigation and let SOL expire on major felonies

Garlands lies and changing narrative.

Did I miss anything?

 

 

Edited September 1, 20232 yr by SunnyinBangrak