8 minutes ago, placeholder said:

ren't just for payments to the Biden family but to Hunter Biden's associates as well.

But whatever the amount that ended up with Hunter Biden and 2 others connected to the Biden family, your contention that this qualifies as evidence that Joe Biden was in on it is nonsense.

Just so ill informed. Is it intentional? Hunter and 2 family members you claim(after having changed stance a dozen times already from the lappy being russian disinfo and no payments to now payments being made but only to 2)

 

Lets try TWELVE not 2. Including young children.

 

“I mean, it’s the entire family,” Comer said. “And there isn’t a single one of those family members that had the ability to do anything to influence foreign policy other than the big guy, Joe Biden.”

https://nypost.com/2023/04/23/at-least-a-dozen-biden-relatives-will-be-exposed-in-foreign-money-deals-james-comer?utm_source=nypost&utm_campaign=android_nyp&utm_medium=social

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

Is it Joe Bidens turn to face JAIL?

 

One can only hope so.

I will ask you as I have repeatedly asked @SunnyinBangrak.

 

Where is your proof?

 

I never expect the truth or proof from him anyway.

5 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Just so ill informed. Is it intentional? Hunter and 2 family members you claim(after having changed stance a dozen times already from the lappy being russian disinfo and no payments to now payments being made but only to 2)

 

Lets try TWELVE not 2. Including young children.

 

“I mean, it’s the entire family,” Comer said. “And there isn’t a single one of those family members that had the ability to do anything to influence foreign policy other than the big guy, Joe Biden.”

https://nypost.com/2023/04/23/at-least-a-dozen-biden-relatives-will-be-exposed-in-foreign-money-deals-james-comer?utm_source=nypost&utm_campaign=android_nyp&utm_medium=social

Comer says! As if he had any credibility! ????

2 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Just so ill informed. Is it intentional? Hunter and 2 family members you claim(after having changed stance a dozen times already from the lappy being russian disinfo and no payments to now payments being made but only to 2)

 

Lets try TWELVE not 2. Including young children.

 

“I mean, it’s the entire family,” Comer said. “And there isn’t a single one of those family members that had the ability to do anything to influence foreign policy other than the big guy, Joe Biden.”

https://nypost.com/2023/04/23/at-least-a-dozen-biden-relatives-will-be-exposed-in-foreign-money-deals-james-comer?utm_source=nypost&utm_campaign=android_nyp&utm_medium=social

More allegations but NO proof.

 

Keep clutching at straws and slinging mud because, who knows, you might get it right one day.

 

IMHO you are nothing but a troll, and a poor one at that.

 

BTW please note that I am only speaking for me, and NOT 'we'. I cannot speak for other people and neither can you.

 

Some posters may agree with me and some may not. The choice is theirs alone to make.

 

It is NOT mine, yours or anybody else's choice.

2 hours ago, billd766 said:

I will ask you as I have repeatedly asked @SunnyinBangrak.

 

Where is your proof?

 

I never expect the truth or proof from him anyway.

It is my hope that he is tried and found guilty. It's not up to me to provide proof unless I refer to something factual. Hope is not a fact, it's an emotion.

Comprende?

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It is my hope that he is tried and found guilty. It's not up to me to provide proof unless I refer to something factual. Hope is not a fact, it's an emotion.

Comprende?

First you need to find grounds to charge him.  How's that going?

3 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Just so ill informed. Is it intentional? Hunter and 2 family members you claim(after having changed stance a dozen times already from the lappy being russian disinfo and no payments to now payments being made but only to 2)

 

Lets try TWELVE not 2. Including young children.

 

“I mean, it’s the entire family,” Comer said. “And there isn’t a single one of those family members that had the ability to do anything to influence foreign policy other than the big guy, Joe Biden.”

https://nypost.com/2023/04/23/at-least-a-dozen-biden-relatives-will-be-exposed-in-foreign-money-deals-james-comer?utm_source=nypost&utm_campaign=android_nyp&utm_medium=social

First off, when is James Comer to be trusted on anything he says? As far as I can tell, his committee hasn't released documents that actually prove that these people received payment from monies that originated in China or Russia.  But, for the sake of argument,  let's assume it's 9 or even 12. Are any of those people named Joe Biden? So what does the number of people have to do with proving that Joe Biden is corruptly involved?

 

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Is it Joe Bidens turn to face JAIL?

 

One can only hope so.

One  can only hope because so far there is zero incriminating evidence.

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

One  can only hope because so far there is zero incriminating evidence.

Hard to find evidence when the Bidens have the dept of justice in their back pocket. 

Corrupt Joe is above the law presently.

 

On 7/29/2023 at 6:19 AM, SunnyinBangrak said:

If he survives the threats to his life from the left (wonder why they want to end his life?) you will not enjoy the latest testimony from an insider and confidant of the bidens.

 

"He is also expected to testify that despite previous repeated denials, the President was involved in his son's business dealings. Archer says he was present when Joe Biden took part in not one but 24 separate telephone conference calls with Hunter's foreign clients.

That's if Archer actually turns up and isn't found floating face down in Washington's Potomac River. Last night he was reported to have gone into hiding, after friends said he had received unspecified 'threats' against both himself and his family."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12350259/The-scandal-engulfing-Hunter-Biden-grave-Americas-Left-wing-media-ignore-longer-claims-5million-bribes-drugs-prostitutes-surround-Presidents-wayward-son-writes-RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN.html

 

interesting to contrast the treatment of these whistleblowers to Vindman isn't it. Should the GOP have tried to end Vindman's life or falsely accuse him of treason and other high crimes to get rid of him and try undermining his credibility? I'm glad the GOP took the high road and let the nonsense play out in an aquital.

What Archer also repeatedly sent, and what the Daily Mail remarkably fails to note, is that Devon Archer was repeatedly asked if, during any of these conference calls, was any business discussed. He emphatically and repeatedly said no business was discussed. The conversations consisted of pleasantries. And Archer said "about 20 phone calls" not 24.   Archer also noted that Joe Biden and his son spoke to each other every day over the phone.  Archer said these phone calls occurred over a period of 10 years. That would average out to 2 phone calls per year. Given that they spoke every day, has it even been proven that Joe Biden knew his son was with business associated when these 20 calls were made? 

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It is my hope that he is tried and found guilty. It's not up to me to provide proof unless I refer to something factual. Hope is not a fact, it's an emotion.

Comprende?

I understand that hope is an emotion, but emotions are not facts or proof of anything.

 

I have 2 hopes.

 

1   That Donald Trump goes to jail for the rest of his natural life, The chances of that are high given the preponderance of facts and evidence against him.

 

2   I hope to win the lottery and the chance of that is very low, but still higher than that of President Biden being found guilty of some spurious and unspecified charges that have not been brought, or even found yet.

 

 

On 8/27/2023 at 7:46 AM, SunnyinBangrak said:

Are you unable to answer the question as to why the bidens were paid vast inexplicable sums of money from America's adversaries such as China, Russia and Ukraine?

 

Worth noting, unlike the biden fans Victor Shokin has not had to change his story a dozen times.

First off, where is the evidence that any of this money came from the governments of China, Russia or Ukraine? Was it a crime to do business with companies located in China, Russia, or Ukraine? Because if it was, thousands of business people should now be occupying jail cells. In fact, the so called Russian payment came from an oligarch who fled Russia because of a dispute she had with the Russian govt. She's wanted for arrest by the Russian govt. She's lived in the UK since 2010. And that's where that payment came from.

On 8/27/2023 at 7:46 AM, SunnyinBangrak said:

Worth noting, unlike the biden fans Victor Shokin has not had to change his story a dozen times.

Please share with us what has changed about the Biden story in relation to Burisma or Victor Shokin. Devon Archer specifically testiifed that Hunter told him he had nothing to do with Joe Biden coming to Ukraine at all. Archer also said that other members of Burisma and Biden's company told him that Shokin's firing was a bad thing since the CEO of Burisma had Shokin under control.

12 minutes ago, Trippy said:

Hard to find evidence when the Bidens have the dept of justice in their back pocket. 

Corrupt Joe is above the law presently.

 

Please share with us your evidence of this. I won't be holding my breath whilst I wait.

On 8/27/2023 at 7:17 AM, SunnyinBangrak said:

Seems Victor Shokin is about to do an interview on Fox news in the next couple of hours! 

 

 This will be amusing watching the preposterous false claim that the bidens got Shokin fired for not investigating the firm that was paying bidens unqualified son $1 MILLION a year hard enough get blown out if the water, again. 

 

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12448553

 

 

 

At his point, it is impossible to accept any other explanation for your assertion than that you are being deliberately untruthful. Over and over again evidence has been presented to you showing that Biden had the backing of the State Dept, Obama and the EU. He was fired for not pursuing cases against oligarchs. He did however display great zealousness in prosecuting...wait for it... anti-corruption organizations. Two of the prosecutors in his dept were found to be in possession of large quantities of cash and jewels of inexplicable origin. Shokin of course was very indignant about this and rushed to prosecute them...just kidding. He fired the prosecutor who went after these people. The evidence that Shokin is corrupt himself is overwhelming. 

Looks like the US pro-Biden propaganda machine,  is on full throttle here. The more people will attack Trump, the more popular he becomes.

 

In Europe many prefer Trump to Biden. Far less economic turmoils under Trump.

On 5/4/2023 at 8:15 PM, placeholder said:

The evidence consists of an allegation from someone. 

I'm sure that same situation has recently been applied to someone else in a similarly influential position, 91 times.

4 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

I'm sure that same situation has recently been applied to someone else in a similarly influential position, 91 times.

Really? You really have to be trying hard not to see what evidence there is against Trump. Trump refused to return documents when asked by Nara. That refusal already constitutes a crime.  He lied when he claimed he had kept no documents. That's obstruction of justice.  His lawyer actually signed a letter to the Justice Dept affirming Trump's claims. And no, it isn't a defense to claim that it was the lawyer who said it, not me. Further, he is recorded on audio, explicitly saying that the document he was reading hadn't been declassified by him when he was President, and further said that it was too late to declassify now since he was no longer president. And there's so much more. You got anything comparable to offer against Biden? Anything?

25 minutes ago, Middle Aged Grouch said:

Looks like the US pro-Biden propaganda machine,  is on full throttle here. The more people will attack Trump, the more popular he becomes.

 

In Europe many prefer Trump to Biden. Far less economic turmoils under Trump.

Any link to support your claim that Europeans order Trump to Biden? Or is it just coming out of....

2 hours ago, Middle Aged Grouch said:

Looks like the US pro-Biden propaganda machine,  is on full throttle here. The more people will attack Trump, the more popular he becomes.

 

In Europe many prefer Trump to Biden. Far less economic turmoils under Trump.

The pro-Biden propaganda machine?   You mean those annoying posters who support their posts with referenced sources?  Yeah, the Trump crowd hates people who use facts.

 

 

1 hour ago, Trippy said:

Hard to find evidence when the Bidens have the dept of justice in their back pocket. 

Corrupt Joe is above the law presently.

 

A BS claim that you have no evidence to support.

 

Only 253 posts.  Are you a new troll or someone banned by ASEAN Now under your former identity?

18 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

I'm sure that same situation has recently been applied to someone else in a similarly influential position, 91 times.

Yeah, but those 91 times are also supported by recordings, videos, testimony from Republicans, pictures of classified document covers....

26 minutes ago, heybruce said:

The pro-Biden propaganda machine?   You mean those annoying posters who support their posts with referenced sources?  Yeah, the Trump crowd hates people who use facts.

 

Another "newby", only 63 posts, and you come out swinging hard for Trump, without any sources to support your claims.  You'll fit right in, but I'm sure you already know that.  I suspect another troll and/or a reincarnated banned ASEAN Now member.

So your sole argument of being credible is per ratio of the number of posts ????? Sorry, but others have a life and do not spend all day just posting to increase the numbers.  You assume a lot. Maybe you should consult for paranoia issues.  Considering your rude comments towards others, I think nobody is going to take you and your 1000 posts very seriously...

1 hour ago, Middle Aged Grouch said:

Looks like the US pro-Biden propaganda machine,  is on full throttle here. The more people will attack Trump, the more popular he becomes.

 

In Europe many prefer Trump to Biden. Far less economic turmoils under Trump.

Such a claim is of course virtually meaningless. In the EU there are about 500 million people. Can you assign a numerical figure to "many"? With evidence to back it up?

Edited August 28, 20232 yr by placeholder

21 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Such a claim is of course virtually meaningless. In the EU there are about 500 million people. Can you assign a numerical figure to "many"? With evidence to back it up?

And do you have empirical claim to prove the sky is blue ? Usually when people have no idea on what to argue, they pull out the old excuse "bla bla give us figures, claims"....in the Middle ages people like you used to show so-called evidence to back up the fact that the earth was flat and not round.

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It is my hope that he is tried and found guilty. It's not up to me to provide proof unless I refer to something factual. Hope is not a fact, it's an emotion.

Comprende?

If you are talking about Hunter Biden, I am sure he is guilty of some crime. Leeching off family connections should be discouraged.

 

Same with Jared Kushner.

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

I'm sure that same situation has recently been applied to someone else in a similarly influential position, 91 times.

There are recordings of Trump commiting crimes and confessing to crimes.

 

 

8 minutes ago, SingAPorn said:

And do you have empirical claim to prove the sky is blue ? Usually when people have no idea on what to argue, they pull out the old excuse "bla bla give us figures, claims"....in the Middle ages people like you used to show so-called evidence to back up the fact that the earth was flat and not round.

You are saying that asking for proof is a bad thing?

 

Really?

 

17 minutes ago, SingAPorn said:

And do you have empirical claim to prove the sky is blue ? Usually when people have no idea on what to argue, they pull out the old excuse "bla bla give us figures, claims"....in the Middle ages people like you used to show so-called evidence to back up the fact that the earth was flat and not round.

Well, the thing is there actually is evidence to prove that Middle Aged Grouch's contention is baseless.

Biden Is Much More Popular Than Trump Around the World
 

Biden Is Much More Popular Than Trump Around the World
 

https://pro.morningconsult.com/instant-intel/biden-more-popular-than-trump-abroad

 

Biden Scores Higher Approval Abroad Than at Home
Majorities in all but one country included in a recent survey have a favorable opinion of the United States, according to the Pew Research Center.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2023-06-27/survey-finds-positive-international-opinion-of-the-u-s-biden

 

31 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Well, the thing is there actually is evidence to prove that Middle Aged Grouch's contention is baseless.

Biden Is Much More Popular Than Trump Around the World
 

Biden Is Much More Popular Than Trump Around the World
 

https://pro.morningconsult.com/instant-intel/biden-more-popular-than-trump-abroad

 

Biden Scores Higher Approval Abroad Than at Home
Majorities in all but one country included in a recent survey have a favorable opinion of the United States, according to the Pew Research Center.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2023-06-27/survey-finds-positive-international-opinion-of-the-u-s-bidends

 

I think that despite your very throughly documented (and numerous) posts, nobody really gives a sh.... on charts and figures. Churchill said there are 2 ways to lie.....one is with plainly a lie and the other with stats and so on.

Kindly do not misunderstand. I doubt that any amount of charts would have any influence to change the minds of well matured and nasty characters like most of us here. One will not be able to make a Democrat change his mind, neither will you be able to make a Republican change his either. So what's the point if I may ask and if you do not mind ?

 

A basic and factual element may refer to the retirees pension investments globally speaking.  They gave far better yields under Trump, then with Biden. With that in mind, I may assume that many a Democrat with some grub in his portfolio,  would rightfully prefer a secured future on his investments,  over any other ideology.