For those of us who prefer to use credible sources, here is a link to an explanation of where Joe Biden's wealth comes from:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michelatindera/2020/10/22/how-the-bidens-earned-167-million-after-leaving-the-white-house/?sh=1c14eda81e42

7 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Link was only 2 posts back, but here it is again ........................

https://www.caclubindia.com/wealth/joe-biden-net-worth/

Your link is bogus, a lot of claims but no proof.

6 minutes ago, impulse said:

Do you have a link for that?  Proof that Biden's income and net worth have been legitimately accounted for?

 

Thought not... 

 

why is it that you demand links only from one side?

 

It says a lot about you and nothing about me that you asked me a question and then answered it yourself. A truly low and discreditable tactic. I've actually answered this question many times with links as above.

Anyway, here is a link again, 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michelatindera/2020/10/22/how-the-bidens-earned-167-million-after-leaving-the-white-house/?sh=1c14eda81e42

 

I suspect you're going to evaporate now but who knows, you may stick around and actually apologize.

8 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/irs-president-audit-congress/

What makes impulse's comment particularly ridiculous is that it's widely known that Biden has publicly released decades of his tax returns.

25 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

and yet, and yet he continues to walk free as an unconvicted criminal.

I would not be at all surprised to learn that a billionaire committed a crime or two along the way, but in Trump's case, living a very public life, are either buried so deep as not able to be found, or so minor as to not amounting to much.

 

As I see it, his crime was exposing the Washington "swamp" ( in his words ) for all to see, and for that he will never be forgiven, IMO.

Prior to his 2016 campaign probably everyone knew, but no one was prepared to use it against them.

Trump has been indicted on 91 charges. The only reason he is walking around is that the trials haven't happened yet.

 

BTW, your man Trump is dropping in GOP polls. As long as he avoids debates, he is going to hand the nomination to someone else. You might consider a second choice.

15 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Link was only 2 posts back, but here it is again ........................

https://www.caclubindia.com/wealth/joe-biden-net-worth/

This is not a credible source.

 

Got anything better?

26 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Millions in gifts from the Rothschilds, Soros, Saudi royals, including a yacht and a mansion.

Doesn't seem all that legit to me!

Did you notice that the author of the article you cited claims that his source was the Forbes article. And yet the Forbes article says nothing of the kind. Gullible much?

6 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Trump has been indicted on 91 charges. The only reason he is walking around is that the trials haven't happened yet.

 

BTW, your man Trump is dropping in GOP polls. As long as he avoids debates, he is going to hand the nomination to someone else. You might consider a second choice.

My second choice would be the one most aligned to Trump's policies on immigration, and not starting wars. I don't care which party they are from ( I'd have voted for Kennedy, or Bernie ) as long as they were not beholden to big business or the military industrial complex.

12 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Trump has been indicted on 91 charges. The only reason he is walking around is that the trials haven't happened yet.

 

BTW, your man Trump is dropping in GOP polls. As long as he avoids debates, he is going to hand the nomination to someone else. You might consider a second choice.

This is the left version of "The Big Lie". If you are against Biden, you must necessarily be for Trump. End of story.  

 

God news for you sunshine. Lots of people (myself included) would prefer NEITHER of those elderly gents to even be nominated for President, let alone win.  So trying to explain away Biden's suspicious actions by saying,"well, at least not as bad as Trump" is a shallow dodge.  Let the Biden situation stand or fall on its own merits instead of making useless comparisons.

Just now, Hanaguma said:

This is the left version of "The Big Lie". If you are against Biden, you must necessarily be for Trump. End of story.  

 

God news for you sunshine. Lots of people (myself included) would prefer NEITHER of those elderly gents to even be nominated for President, let alone win.  So trying to explain away Biden's suspicious actions by saying,"well, at least not as bad as Trump" is a shallow dodge.  Let the Biden situation stand or fall on its own merits instead of making useless comparisons.

I keep on reading this protestation from folks here who are markedly right wing. It's belied by the actual feebleness of the criticisms of one of these gents vs. the over-the-top vitriol directed against the other (see glancing-at-the-watch).

21 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Biden has been audited by the Trump IRS repeatedly. They found nothing wrong.

 

What facts do you have that the IRS doesn't?

I got nothing.  But the stated purpose behind the proposed impeachment inquiry is to get documents and testimony about (among other things) the $5 million bribe alleged on the infamous FD1023.   I don't care about what's been declared.  Just what's been hidden.

 

I'm pretty sure people don't report bribes on their tax returns.  Nor do they report commingled funds from their son's accounts and family shell companies,  said son complaining on the laptop that he pays a lot of his Dad's expenses.

 

Biden may be clean as new snow.  But I have my doubts.  I suspect there was a lot of soiled blue underwear the day he bragged about getting the Uke prosecutor fired, using a billion of American money.  That's gonna come back and bite him.

 

34 minutes ago, placeholder said:

For those of us who prefer to use credible sources, here is a link to an explanation of where Joe Biden's wealth comes from:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michelatindera/2020/10/22/how-the-bidens-earned-167-million-after-leaving-the-white-house/?sh=1c14eda81e42

For anything biden or democrat related Forbes is not a reliable source. This article you linked made numerous false and disinfo claims trying to distance poor Hunter from that dastardly laptop over a year after the FBI authenticated it.

 

The FBI were not examining whether the laptop was Russian disinformation as Forbes falsely claims as they verified it was authentic in 2019.

 

"Shapley testified that “the FBI became aware that a repair shop had a laptop allegedly belonging to Hunter Biden and that the laptop might contain evidence of a crime” in October 2019. He added that just one month later “the FBI verified its authenticity in November of 2019 by matching the device number against Hunter Biden's Apple iCloud ID.”

He said that FBI case agent Josh Wilson called repair shop owner John Paul Mac Isaac on Nov. 6, 2019 “and basically got the device numbers from him.” Shapley further testified that “then we bounced those device numbers off third-party records, and it showed that it was, in fact, Hunter Biden's device."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2020/10/16/reports-fbi-probing-if-ny-posts-hunter-biden-email-dump-was-part-of-foreign-influence-campaign/

 

Dont confuse propaganda for credible sources. For anything biden, the credible sources ie those that did their research and have been factually accurate in coverage over the past few years include Miranda Devine, Glen Greenwald and Greg Kelly. They do not include CNN, MSNBC, Forbes, Mediabiasfactcheck and other outlets that have dodged fact to bring false narratives that make biden bros happy.

Edited August 29, 20232 yr by SunnyinBangrak

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

I keep on reading this protestation from folks here who are markedly right wing. It's belied by the actual feebleness of the criticisms of one of these gents vs. the over-the-top vitriol directed against the other (see glancing-at-the-watch).

If Trump is convicted and faces jail time, I am fine with that.  No doubt I am right wing- some of Trump's covid policies rubbed me the wrong way for example. As did Biden's over the top spending spree and his warmongering stance on Ukraine. 

 

Biden is under fire more because he IS the President. Trump WAS the President. Hopefully neither will BE the President. 

Just now, SunnyinBangrak said:

For anything biden or democrat related Forbes is not a reliable source. This article you linked made numerous false and disinfo claims trying to distance poor Hunter from that dastardly laptopover a year after the FBI authenticated it.

 

The FBI were no examining whether the laptop was Russian disinformation as they verified it was authentic in 2019.

 

"Shapley testified that “the FBI became aware that a repair shop had a laptop allegedly belonging to Hunter Biden and that the laptop might contain evidence of a crime” in October 2019. He added that just one month later “the FBI verified its authenticity in November of 2019 by matching the device number against Hunter Biden's Apple iCloud ID.”

He said that FBI case agent Josh Wilson called repair shop owner John Paul Mac Isaac on Nov. 6, 2019 “and basically got the device numbers from him.” Shapley further testified that “then we bounced those device numbers off third-party records, and it showed that it was, in fact, Hunter Biden's device."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2020/10/16/reports-fbi-probing-if-ny-posts-hunter-biden-email-dump-was-part-of-foreign-influence-campaign/

 

Dont confuse propaganda for credible sources. For anything biden, the credible sources ie those that did their research and have been factually accurate in coverage over the past few years include Miranda Devine, Glen Greenwald and Greg Kelly. They do not include CNN, MSNBC, Forbes, Mediabiasfactcgeck and other outlets that have dodged fact to bring false narratives that make biden bros happy.

The article I linked to and which you cited made absolutely no reference to Hunter Biden. Zero, nada, zilch.

You might actually try bothering to follow a link to see what it's about before you engage in another rant. 

4 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

If Trump is convicted and faces jail time, I am fine with that.  No doubt I am right wing- some of Trump's covid policies rubbed me the wrong way for example. As did Biden's over the top spending spree and his warmongering stance on Ukraine. 

 

Biden is under fire more because he IS the President. Trump WAS the President. Hopefully neither will BE the President. 

There's sensible criticism and then there's yours. The glancing at the watch bit isn't the first time you've gone overboard.

7 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

If Trump is convicted and faces jail time, I am fine with that.  No doubt I am right wing- some of Trump's covid policies rubbed me the wrong way for example. As did Biden's over the top spending spree and his warmongering stance on Ukraine. 

 

Biden is under fire more because he IS the President. Trump WAS the President. Hopefully neither will BE the President. 

Before the tsunami of legal action against Trump just in time for the election season I also didn't want Trump to be president, as I stated on this very forum, but now I want him to win and get payback big time for it.

My fear though, is that by him being the candidate we get the same ghastly characters back for another 4 years of disasters.

9 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

For anything biden or democrat related Forbes is not a reliable source. This article you linked made numerous false and disinfo claims trying to distance poor Hunter from that dastardly laptop over a year after the FBI authenticated it.

 

The FBI were not examining whether the laptop was Russian disinformation as Forbes falsely claims as they verified it was authentic in 2019.

 

"Shapley testified that “the FBI became aware that a repair shop had a laptop allegedly belonging to Hunter Biden and that the laptop might contain evidence of a crime” in October 2019. He added that just one month later “the FBI verified its authenticity in November of 2019 by matching the device number against Hunter Biden's Apple iCloud ID.”

He said that FBI case agent Josh Wilson called repair shop owner John Paul Mac Isaac on Nov. 6, 2019 “and basically got the device numbers from him.” Shapley further testified that “then we bounced those device numbers off third-party records, and it showed that it was, in fact, Hunter Biden's device."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2020/10/16/reports-fbi-probing-if-ny-posts-hunter-biden-email-dump-was-part-of-foreign-influence-campaign/

 

Dont confuse propaganda for credible sources. For anything biden, the credible sources ie those that did their research and have been factually accurate in coverage over the past few years include Miranda Devine, Glen Greenwald and Greg Kelly. They do not include CNN, MSNBC, Forbes, Mediabiasfactcheck and other outlets that have dodged fact to bring false narratives that make biden bros happy.

I just looked up Miranda Devine Hunter Biden. This came up:

"There’s also evidence that Joe Biden financially benefited from Hunter Biden’s grift and his brother, Jim Biden’s grift, with these countries which are crucial to America’s national security interest. "

https://www.foxnews.com/media/miranda-devine-hunter-biden-scandal-laptop

 

And, as I've pointed out before, when the laptop came to light, Giuliani and others refused to disclose the metadata that could have established its provenance. A news organization with integrity would assign a investigative reporters to thoroughly vet this laptop before it was released. And, in fact, the NY Post did assign an experienced reporter to write up a article about the laptop. He refused on the very grounds I've cited. It should also be pointed out that the laptop  was in the physical custody of the FBI and under the care of John Ratcliffe, an extreme right winger in the Trump administration.

7 hours ago, heybruce said:

12 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

There are recordings (and public appearances) of Biden committing crimes and confessing to crimes!   

And yet you don't provide any links.

If you do not know what those well publicised and televised instances are, no "link" is going to help you.

Edited August 29, 20232 yr by Liverpool Lou

47 minutes ago, placeholder said:

There's sensible criticism and then there's yours. The glancing at the watch bit isn't the first time you've gone overboard.

Matter of opinion. The watch thing was horrible to me. Joe cant even control himself for a short ceremony without appearing cold and indifferent. He is most definitely NOT the man he was in the past, even as recently as when he served as VP.  Bring on age/term limits!

Just now, Hanaguma said:

Matter of opinion. The watch thing was horrible to me. Joe cant even control himself for a short ceremony without appearing cold and indifferent. He is most definitely NOT the man he was in the past, even as recently as when he served as VP.  Bring on age/term limits!

Thanks for establishing where you really stand. That a furtive glance at a watch is horrible to you should tell everyone about the reliability of your judgement.

4 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Thanks for establishing where you really stand. That a furtive glance at a watch is horrible to you should tell everyone about the reliability of your judgement.

It got George Bush in trouble at a presidential debate, it should also get Joe Biden in trouble at a ceremony welcoming fallen soldiers home.

Just now, Hanaguma said:

It got George Bush in trouble at a presidential debate, it should also get Joe Biden in trouble at a ceremony welcoming fallen soldiers home.

Please. You really don't want to get into a comparison of how different Presidents have treated fallen soldiers. Or captures ones for that matter.

Just now, placeholder said:

Please. You really don't want to get into a comparison of how different Presidents have treated fallen soldiers. Or captures ones for that matter.

Not to mention that the families of the fallen soldiers said he did it repeatedly...

 

https://nypost.com/2021/08/31/biden-blasted-by-gold-star-dads-darin-hoover-mark-schmitz-for-checking-watch-during-ceremony/

3 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Not to mention that the families of the fallen soldiers said he did it repeatedly...

 

https://nypost.com/2021/08/31/biden-blasted-by-gold-star-dads-darin-hoover-mark-schmitz-for-checking-watch-during-ceremony/

Have you looked at the record of these people. They've had it in for Biden since Afghanistan. So why should I trust them.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bidens-treatment-gold-star-families-under-renewed-scrutiny-total-disregard

1 hour ago, impulse said:

I got nothing.  But the stated purpose behind the proposed impeachment inquiry is to get documents and testimony about (among other things) the $5 million bribe alleged on the infamous FD1023.   

 

If you are basing your opinion on the FD1023, you truly have nothing.

 

Yes, Hunter Biden exploited his family connections. 

 

And yes, 4 people died in Benghazi.

 

But you people like to make big noise over this stuff, until its no longer useful.

 

All Hunter Biden's attorneys have to do is stall until Joe Biden is out of office, and then you will forget about all of this.

2 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

All Hunter Biden's attorneys have to do is stall until Joe Biden is out of office, and then you will forget about all of this.

Hence the need for an impeachment INQUIRY.  No stalling when Congress hands you a subpoena for documents or testimony.

5 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

All Hunter Biden's attorneys have to do is stall until Joe Biden is out of office, and then you will forget about all of this.

Like you forgot Trump once he was out of office?

Woke crooks get a free pass?

1 hour ago, impulse said:

I got nothing.  But the stated purpose behind the proposed impeachment inquiry is to get documents and testimony about (among other things) the $5 million bribe alleged on the infamous FD1023.   I don't care about what's been declared.  Just what's been hidden.

 

I'm pretty sure people don't report bribes on their tax returns.  Nor do they report commingled funds from their son's accounts and family shell companies,  said son complaining on the laptop that he pays a lot of his Dad's expenses.

 

Biden may be clean as new snow.  But I have my doubts.  I suspect there was a lot of soiled blue underwear the day he bragged about getting the Uke prosecutor fired, using a billion of American money.  That's gonna come back and bite him.

 

Get back to us when there is actually evidence that Biden has hidden funds.

 

Do  you understand that the FD1023 is about unconfirmed hearsay? And that it was looked into already and dismissed?

 

What shell companies are financially tied to Joe Biden? As far as I know, he's never been tied to any. You got different info you'd like to share?  As for Hunter Biden complaining about expenses. He said that's been going on for the past 30 years. Which would have made him 19 or maybe 20k when this started. You don't think the far more likely explanation is that it's just a kid complaining about his dad. Or was Biden hiding his son's contributions for those 30 years?

 

Why is it so difficult for right wingers to understand that Biden was carrying out US policy in getting Shokin fired? What makes your suspicions even more ridiculous is that in his testimony to the House Committe, Devon Archer said he was told by people in his company that Shokin was under the control of Burisma's CEO and his firing was actually bad for the company.

13 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Have you looked at the record of these people. They've had it in for Biden since Afghanistan. So why should I trust them.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bidens-treatment-gold-star-families-under-renewed-scrutiny-total-disregard

You have evidence they were lying?

7 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Like you forgot Trump once he was out of office?

Woke crooks get a free pass?

I am talking about MAGA. These alleged "crimes" are forgotten once they are no longer politically correct.

 

Remember "Lock her up"?